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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

    It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year 🙂 )

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    @taniwharugby

    Progress has been made but more needs to be done

    Ledesma & Quesada have & will continue to make a huge difference to Argentinian Rugby

    This year will be a good marker for Los Pumas

    Long term they'll be in good health as Kiwis & SA will be decimated with key personal playing in Europe & Japan

    Jaguares have shown the way - in their last 22 regular season games they've beaten:

    Sharks three times
    Bulls three times
    Stormers twice
    Brumbies twice
    Rebels
    Waratahs
    Chiefs
    Blues
    Hurricanes

    and with a chance to beat Reds & Sunwolves within next 3 weeks

    That leaves Crusaders Lions & Higlanders- 5 pt loss in Dunedin

    That's an impressive list of victories once Jaguares got some competent coaching in their systems

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

      It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year 🙂 )

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      @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

      It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year 🙂 )

      I think that's a real risk given the form of the Jaguares and leaving a good proportion of ABs at home if they're in the Super final.

      Unlike a notable Tahs supporter, i'm happy that the Jaguares are playing well. The strength of the competition requires good teams and the better the teams you play against, the higher your own standard has to become.

      What Kearns is whining for is mediocrity.

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        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

        It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year 🙂 )

        I think that's a real risk given the form of the Jaguares and leaving a good proportion of ABs at home if they're in the Super final.

        Unlike a notable Tahs supporter, i'm happy that the Jaguares are playing well. The strength of the competition requires good teams and the better the teams you play against, the higher your own standard has to become.

        What Kearns is whining for is mediocrity.

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        @antipodean yeah we did that one other time, was it 2007 with Jerry Collins named as Captain.

        @Jaguares4real key is getting them to translate it from Super to the INternaituonal scene, I am sure if you have followed super rugby, you will know that Super form doesnt always translate, I am hoping the Pumas do step up.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

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          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

          They have been historically very strong at peaking for RWCs (and before entering TRC - tests against the ABs). In a pool with France and England I back them to be one of the two best sides.

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            Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

            http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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            • M Machpants

              Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

              http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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              @Machpants Yikes! Hopefully, we've used up our full dose of frenchies by then and don't get them in the finals!

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Machpants Yikes! Hopefully, we've used up our full dose of frenchies by then and don't get them in the finals!

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                @Stargazer I guess we'll be more used to them if/when we do pick them up in the knock outs?

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                • M Machpants

                  Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

                  http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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                  @Machpants I hope the jaapies don't get in and do a deal with the ref before the game.....

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                    From Planet Rugby.
                    Samoa have been hit by a setback ahead of the Rugby World Cup after experienced second-row Joe Tekori announced his international retirement.

                    The 35-year-old revealed the news on Instagram on Tuesday, with the tournament less than two months away from kicking off in Japan.

                    Tekori plays for Top 14 giants Toulouse and will now focus solely on matters with the French champions, which is a big blow for Samoa.

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                      From Tekori's instagram.
                      Today i would like to announce my ending of my International Rugby Career.
                      It was not an easy decision to make but i am blessed and greatful to have been able to put on the blue jersey and play to represent my beautiful Country Samoa.
                      My time has come and to now focus my rugby career on the club i am playing for now.
                      Starting my first Samoa selection 2003 and ending my last game in 2018
                      My 3 rugby world cup tours to my last game playing for the Manu Samoa last year against Germany for the qualification for the Worldcup 2019.
                      Would like to thank everyone who made it possible for me especially to my Wife and kids for holding it down while i was away for weeks even months and to my family back in Nz and in Samoa
                      Nothing is impossible without the love and support from them.
                      Faafetai tele lava mo tapuaiga ma fautuaga.
                      I also Want to wish the Manu Samoa boys all the best for their preparations for the RUGBY WORLDCUP and for the following years to come. Thank you Samoa Rugby it has been an honour🙏🏾
                      Faafetai tele lava

                      Joe Tekori

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                        “Nothing is impossible without the love and support from them [wife and kids].”

                        I tried reading that a dozen times. Into triple negatives here. Is he blaming wifey??

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                        • Salacious CrumbS Salacious Crumb

                          “Nothing is impossible without the love and support from them [wife and kids].”

                          I tried reading that a dozen times. Into triple negatives here. Is he blaming wifey??

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                          @Salacious-Crumb it's a bit like O for Awesome

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            Joe Tekori

                            Scummy bastard French clubs strike again

                            More bribery/blackmail of PI players to "retire" before a RWC

                            I hope Los Pumas and England beat the crap out of France

                            Bunch of crooks and pirates

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                              On a lighter note: Video of England RWC Training Camps - Part of a Series:

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                From Planet Rugby.
                                Samoa have been hit by a setback ahead of the Rugby World Cup after experienced second-row Joe Tekori announced his international retirement.

                                The 35-year-old revealed the news on Instagram on Tuesday, with the tournament less than two months away from kicking off in Japan.

                                Tekori plays for Top 14 giants Toulouse and will now focus solely on matters with the French champions, which is a big blow for Samoa.

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                From Planet Rugby.
                                Samoa have been hit by a setback ahead of the Rugby World Cup after experienced second-row Joe Tekori announced his international retirement.

                                The 35-year-old revealed the news on Instagram on Tuesday, with the tournament less than two months away from kicking off in Japan.

                                Tekori plays for Top 14 giants Toulouse and will now focus solely on matters with the French champions, which is a big blow for Samoa.

                                Samoan locks

                                Current:
                                Kane Laupepe (Hurricanes)
                                Chris Vui (Bristol)
                                Filo Paulo (Unattached )
                                Senio Toleafoa (Nevers)

                                Recent call ups:
                                Faatiga Lemalu (Unattached - was Yorkshire Carnegie)
                                Brandon Nansen (Dragons)
                                Masalosalo Tutaia (Perpignan)

                                Is Tekori retiring a big blow? Genuine question. He's getting on a bit now (35 years old). I suppose his value for missing both the 6 weeks or so of pre-RWC camp, plus the tournament itself is quite high to his club.

                                I'd rather it was him than a Chris Vui or Kane Laupepe etc.

                                Would he make the actual squad? Definitely behind Laupepe and Vui as first choice I would have thought.

                                All depth is good depth, though.

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                                  Brian Alainu'uese has never played for Samoa yet. Currently at Toulon.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Brian Alainu'uese has never played for Samoa yet. Currently at Toulon.

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                                    @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    Brian Alainu'uese has never played for Samoa yet. Currently at Toulon.

                                    Recency bias and name bias and youth bias.

                                    But I would have thought these 7 locks would currently be the best 7 Samoan-eligble to narrow down to the final squad and are currently in their prime (therefore, ahead of Tekori).
                                    Kane Laupepe
                                    Chris Vui
                                    Filo Paulo
                                    Brian Alainu'uese
                                    Brandon Nansen
                                    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                                    Michael Fatialofa

                                    Plus there is Ben Nee-Nee, although my hunch is I would rate him lower than Tekori.

                                    I don't know much or anything about Tutaia, Lemalu, Toleafoa.

                                    But Tekori has actually played for Samoa and put in 3 and a half RWC cycles worth of effort, unlike Alainu'uese who never has despite having left a central contracting environment. Step up Brian, Michael or Gerard , allow Joe to cash in during his twilight years and how about you step up to the plate you pikers.

                                    Don't know what availabilty status of Nansen currently is.

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                                      @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      Brian Alainu'uese has never played for Samoa yet. Currently at Toulon.

                                      Recency bias and name bias and youth bias.

                                      But I would have thought these 7 locks would currently be the best 7 Samoan-eligble to narrow down to the final squad and are currently in their prime (therefore, ahead of Tekori).
                                      Kane Laupepe
                                      Chris Vui
                                      Filo Paulo
                                      Brian Alainu'uese
                                      Brandon Nansen
                                      Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Michael Fatialofa

                                      Plus there is Ben Nee-Nee, although my hunch is I would rate him lower than Tekori.

                                      I don't know much or anything about Tutaia, Lemalu, Toleafoa.

                                      But Tekori has actually played for Samoa and put in 3 and a half RWC cycles worth of effort, unlike Alainu'uese who never has despite having left a central contracting environment. Step up Brian, Michael or Gerard , allow Joe to cash in during his twilight years and how about you step up to the plate you pikers.

                                      Don't know what availabilty status of Nansen currently is.

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                                      @Rapido Maybe Tekori was given the word that he wasn't going to be picked and allowed to retire gracefully after years of service. Lemalu was excellent as an integral part of Auckland's champion tight five last season, starting most games after they lost Scrafton for the season.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @Chris-B Great to hear what Ted had say.......

                                        He is wrong on a couple of details.

                                        1. The great Wales team of 1971 were the best in the world and better than the current lot.
                                          2 Ted 's 2011 RWC squad only had two first-fives initially. Cruden and then Donald came in after injuries:

                                        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1108/S00382/all-blacks-squad-named-for-2011-rugby-world-cup.htm

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                                        2 Ted 's 2011 RWC squad only had two first-fives initially. Cruden and then Donald came in after injuries:

                                        I thought they had dagg in the squad as the other first five. Or was he solely a fullback then.

                                        Yes I'm reading 100 comments ago. I have some important stuff to procrastinate on.

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                                        • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                                          2 Ted 's 2011 RWC squad only had two first-fives initially. Cruden and then Donald came in after injuries:

                                          I thought they had dagg in the squad as the other first five. Or was he solely a fullback then.

                                          Yes I'm reading 100 comments ago. I have some important stuff to procrastinate on.

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                                          @Magpie_in_aus Piri was the 'other' 10 option in the 2011 squad. Didn't he play at 10 in the pool game v Canada?

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