2019 Rugby World Cup
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@dogmeat my gut feeling is we might see bender shifted back to fullback , I’m tipping bridge to be the bolter and play 14 .
Then it will be between Richie and dmac on the bench .
And it’s not just about who is better , but the dynamic they want most.
@kiwiinmelb from what I heard you can lock Bridge in (9 mths out so....)
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@dogmeat my gut feeling is we might see bender shifted back to fullback , I’m tipping bridge to be the bolter and play 14 .
Then it will be between Richie and dmac on the bench .
And it’s not just about who is better , but the dynamic they want most.
@kiwiinmelb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@dogmeat my gut feeling is we might see bender shifted back to fullback , I’m tipping bridge to be the bolter and play 14 .
Then it will be between Richie and dmac on the bench .
And it’s not just about who is better , but the dynamic they want most.
There is still another shoe to drop with Jordie Barrett in all this. Clearly a favourite of the selectors and potentially offers positional flexibility and goal kicking. If he can just "get it" at test level D Mac would be long forgotten.
Would be interesting to hear dogmeat's thoughts though!
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@kiwiinmelb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@dogmeat my gut feeling is we might see bender shifted back to fullback , I’m tipping bridge to be the bolter and play 14 .
Then it will be between Richie and dmac on the bench .
And it’s not just about who is better , but the dynamic they want most.
There is still another shoe to drop with Jordie Barrett in all this. Clearly a favourite of the selectors and potentially offers positional flexibility and goal kicking. If he can just "get it" at test level D Mac would be long forgotten.
Would be interesting to hear dogmeat's thoughts though!
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
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@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
For sure, again more looking at it from the selectors perspective. They obviously have a soft spot for him and I'm sure if they had their druthers he would meet his potential and be the starting fullback.
I don't put it past him, Toeava was much maligned but after 2-3 piecemeal seasons in black he finally started to put it together IMO and was a really reliable performer in Black from 09-11. Hopefully Jordie is on a similar trajectory.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
For sure, again more looking at it from the selectors perspective. They obviously have a soft spot for him and I'm sure if they had their druthers he would meet his potential and be the starting fullback.
I don't put it past him, Toeava was much maligned but after 2-3 piecemeal seasons in black he finally started to put it together IMO and was a really reliable performer in Black from 09-11. Hopefully Jordie is on a similar trajectory.
@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
For sure, again more looking at it from the selectors perspective. They obviously have a soft spot for him and I'm sure if they had their druthers he would meet his potential and be the starting fullback.
I don't put it past him, Toeava was much maligned but after 2-3 piecemeal seasons in black he finally started to put it together IMO and was a really reliable performer in Black from 09-11. Hopefully Jordie is on a similar trajectory.
He's young and obviously talented so I am not writing him off. But it would be a huge turnaround by September.
2020? Absolutely
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@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
For sure, again more looking at it from the selectors perspective. They obviously have a soft spot for him and I'm sure if they had their druthers he would meet his potential and be the starting fullback.
I don't put it past him, Toeava was much maligned but after 2-3 piecemeal seasons in black he finally started to put it together IMO and was a really reliable performer in Black from 09-11. Hopefully Jordie is on a similar trajectory.
He's young and obviously talented so I am not writing him off. But it would be a huge turnaround by September.
2020? Absolutely
@mariner4life remember they aren't afraid to pick bolters. NMS had a great Super season and then RWC in 2015; particularly with a strike wing, form is more improtant than age or experience I think
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@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
He wasn't nearly as bad as people are making out. He made a few errors in black, most notably the quick lineout throw that Rieko called for and then pussied out of catching. He also did a lot of very good stuff - in that same match he scored an awesome try by running a great angle and taking the ball behind him without losing any pace.
The reaction to that game knocked his confidence, which he finally regathered on the wing against Italy. I'd say he had a very up and down season. DMac finally found a bit of consistency last year for the ABs (though not for the Chiefs) which has put pressure on his spot, but he's still right in the mix for the RWC if he has another strong Super season.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated it's going to take a fuckload more than an okay game against a deplorable Italian outfit to erase the rest of his shit year.
He wasn't nearly as bad as people are making out. He made a few errors in black, most notably the quick lineout throw that Rieko called for and then pussied out of catching. He also did a lot of very good stuff - in that same match he scored an awesome try by running a great angle and taking the ball behind him without losing any pace.
The reaction to that game knocked his confidence, which he finally regathered on the wing against Italy. I'd say he had a very up and down season. DMac finally found a bit of consistency last year for the ABs (though not for the Chiefs) which has put pressure on his spot, but he's still right in the mix for the RWC if he has another strong Super season.
@No-Quarter said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
He wasn't nearly as bad as people are making out. He made a few errors in black, most notably the quick lineout throw that Rieko called for and then pussied out of catching.
Are you Barrett fanboys still trying to blame Reiko for JB's decision making and poor execution. Comedy gold.
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@No-Quarter said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
He wasn't nearly as bad as people are making out. He made a few errors in black, most notably the quick lineout throw that Rieko called for and then pussied out of catching.
Are you Barrett fanboys still trying to blame Reiko for JB's decision making and poor execution. Comedy gold.
@Nepia said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@No-Quarter said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
He wasn't nearly as bad as people are making out. He made a few errors in black, most notably the quick lineout throw that Rieko called for and then pussied out of catching.
Are you Barrett fanboys still trying to blame Reiko for JB's decision making and poor execution. Comedy gold.
No, Jordie threw the ball so was held accountable, but Rieko played a role in that as well. Not sure why you'd ignore that.
Just pointing out that the criticism has been over the top. For example, ALB was significantly worse than Jordie in that match - butchering a certain try and then gifting another at a crucial stage of the match. Yet despite that disastrous performance, posters have been calling for him to be in the starting 15 every match.
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I think that the final will be between us (New Zealand) and Ireland too. These will probably be the players in each team's match-day 23 permitting fitness.
All Blacks:
- Karl Tu'inukuafe
- Codie Taylor
- Owen Franks
- Brodie Retallick
- Sam Whitelock
- Vaea Fifita
- Ardie Savea
- Kieran Read - Captain
- TJ Perenara
- Beauden Barrett
- Rieko Ioane
- Ma'a Nonu
- Jack Goodhue
- Ben Smith
- Damian McKenzie
Reserves: - Dane Coles
- Joe Moody
- Nepo Laulala
- Scott Barrett
- Jackson Hemopo
- Aaron Smith
- Richie Mo'unga
- Anton "give me a start" Lienert-Brown
Ireland:
- Cian Healy
- Rory Best - Captain
- Tadgh Furlong
- Devin Toner
- James Ryan
- Peter O'Mahony
- Sean O'Brien
- CJ Stander
- Conor Murray
- Johnny Sexton
- Jacob Stockdale
- Bundee Aki
- Robbie Henshaw
- Jordan Larmour
- Rob Kearney
Reserves: - Niall Scannell
- Jack McGrath
- Andrew Porter
- Iain Henderson
- Dan Leavy
- Kieran Marmion
- Joey Carbery
- Will Addison
@Yeah-The-Boys said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I think that the final will be between us (New Zealand) and Ireland too. These will probably be the players in each team's match-day 23 permitting fitness.
I don’t.
Ireland RWC 31:Forwards 17
- Cian Healy - Dave Kilcoyne - Finlay Bealham
- Rory Best - Sean Cronin - Niall Scannell
- Tadgh Furlong - Andrew Porter - (Bealham)
- Devin Toner - Iain Henderson
- James Ryan - Tadgh Beirne
- Peter O'Mahony - (Beirne - vdF)
- Josh van der Flier - Dan Leavy - (SOB)
- CJ Stander - Sean O’Brien
Backs: 14
9. Conor Murray - Kieran Marmion - John Cooney
10. Johnny Sexton - Joey Carbery (Cooney)
11. Jacob Stockdale - Jordan Larmour
12. Robbie Henshaw - Bundee Aki
13. Garry Ringrose - Will Addison (Henshaw - Aki)
14. Keith Earls - Andrew Conway - (Addison)
15. Rob Kearney - (Larmour - Conway - Addison) -
I think Italy might get fired up and take this World Cup after that defeat to the ABs. Imagine having JORDIE BARRETT score 4 tries against you
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So... the Rugby World Cup is this year... I reckon that the eight teams to make the playoffs will be:
Ireland and Scotland (Pool A)
New Zealand and South Africa (Pool B)
England and Argentina (Pool C)
Wales and Fiji (Pool D)@Yeah-The-Boys said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So... the Rugby World Cup is this year... I reckon that the eight teams to make the playoffs will be:
Ireland and Scotland (Pool A)
New Zealand and South Africa (Pool B)
England and Argentina (Pool C)
Wales and Fiji (Pool D)Fiji?
Are you high?
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Fiji coach John McKee is in Japan this week finalising preparations for their World Cup campaign which now includes a two-match series against the Maori All Blacks in July.
Fiji will host the Maori All Blacks in Suva on July 11 and after that series will tackle Japan, Canada, Samoa and Tonga in the World Rugby Pacific Nations Cup in August in a bid to be ready for World Cup pool games with Grand Slam champions Wales, Australia, Georgia and Uruguay.The Maori All Blacks will face Fiji three days after the historic Test in Apia between the All Blacks and Manu Samoa. “This match is guaranteed entertainment for Fiji, come July, and we are delighted to once again host the Maori All Blacks,” said Fiji Rugby’s Chief Executive Radrodro Tabualevu.
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Is this the full article?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fijis-rugby-world-cup-preparations-just-got-significantly-tastier/
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Really odd that the MABs would play Fiji on 11 July 2019, while the Super Rugby Final is on 6 July.
Unfortunately, there's no info about when that All Blacks v Samoa match is going to be played. That one hasn't been officially announced, as far as I know. What has been announced is an All Blacks v Tonga match on 7 September, and a Wallabies v Samoa test on the same day.
Is this info really correct? It's all maybe a bit too similar to 2015?
Wed 8 July 2015: Samoa v All Blacks (Apia)
Sat 11 July 2015: Fiji v Maori All Blacks (Suva)The All Blacks will play their first Rugby Championship test against Argentina in Buenos Aires on 20 July 2019.
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So the 41 man squad has been named. How many do we take to japan?
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So the 41 man squad has been named. How many do we take to japan?
@Yeahtheboys said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So the 41 man squad has been named. How many do we take to japan?
- There is discussion on this in the 2019 Rugby Championship thread
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So the 41 man squad has been named. How many do we take to japan?
@Yeahtheboys The wider RWC squad hasn'tbeen named yet. The group for the first foundation day has been named. Before the RWC, there's still a (shortened) Rugby Championship to be played, which will probably be used to test some players and see whether they're up to it, or to attempt to bring some players back to match fitness.
Edit: the discussion in the Rugby Championship thread starts about here.
