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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Nevorian said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    Saw these stats recently. In prep for the inevitable debate when Barrett misses a couple of kicks.
    international kicking stats.
    Barrett
    2015- 55% 6 from 11
    2016- 69% 38 from 55
    2017- 80% 44 from 55
    2018- 70% 35 from 40
    2019- 81% 29 from 36

    Mo'unga
    2018 85% 11 from 13
    2019 83% 20 from 24

    you can read many things into Stats, this is not necessarily about kicking ability but possibly more about how the game is being played - 2015/16 tries were predominantly being scored out wide hence more sideline conversion attempts, now more tries being scored closer into the posts hence better conversion rate

    Or....he became a better kicker 🙂

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    @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Nevorian said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    Saw these stats recently. In prep for the inevitable debate when Barrett misses a couple of kicks.
    international kicking stats.
    Barrett
    2015- 55% 6 from 11
    2016- 69% 38 from 55
    2017- 80% 44 from 55
    2018- 70% 35 from 40
    2019- 81% 29 from 36

    Mo'unga
    2018 85% 11 from 13
    2019 83% 20 from 24

    you can read many things into Stats, this is not necessarily about kicking ability but possibly more about how the game is being played - 2015/16 tries were predominantly being scored out wide hence more sideline conversion attempts, now more tries being scored closer into the posts hence better conversion rate

    Or....he became a better kicker 🙂

    yep hence why I said many things.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Nevorian said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      Some interesting picks. Would be interesting if he picked again post world cup. Hooper over Savea is laughable.
      dc638bbf-07a5-4067-bc7d-37fdcf719980-image.png

      And no Itoje?

      Ardie at 6 or 8 surely

      Too tall

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      @booboo shorter than Matera and same height as Vunipola apparently

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        Anyone else going to the ABs v Boks game? Be good to put some faces to the fern over some lubrications before the match. First round’s on me.

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        • SmutsS Smuts

          Anyone else going to the ABs v Boks game? Be good to put some faces to the fern over some lubrications before the match. First round’s on me.

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          @Smuts

          I’ll be there with my wife and boy, so might be able to pop over for a quick beer beforehand 🍺

          Will you have silver fern access?

          We can try to sort out a place on site for a brew?

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            @Smuts

            I’ll be there with my wife and boy, so might be able to pop over for a quick beer beforehand 🍺

            Will you have silver fern access?

            We can try to sort out a place on site for a brew?

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            @gt12 for sure. If others show interest someone smarter than me can start a new thread?

            If you know the lay of the land feel free to suggest a spot.

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            • SmutsS Smuts

              Anyone else going to the ABs v Boks game? Be good to put some faces to the fern over some lubrications before the match. First round’s on me.

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              @Smuts said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              Anyone else going to the ABs v Boks game? Be good to put some faces to the fern over some lubrications before the match. First round’s on me.

              Code for “I’ve got a ticket to the game, suckers”

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                Guilty.

                But its been over a decade since I last watched the boks live and two decades since I last got to watch them square up to your bastards. So I feel no shame.

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                • SmutsS Smuts

                  Guilty.

                  But its been over a decade since I last watched the boks live and two decades since I last got to watch them square up to your bastards. So I feel no shame.

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                  @Smuts said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  Guilty.

                  But its been over a decade since I last watched the boks live and two decades since I last got to watch them square up to your bastards. So I feel no shame.

                  The RWC games I have been to are always a step up in intensity from normal tests. And the boks are a big chance. It will be amazing. Hopefully ultimately disappointing, but amazing 😉

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Smuts said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    Guilty.

                    But its been over a decade since I last watched the boks live and two decades since I last got to watch them square up to your bastards. So I feel no shame.

                    The RWC games I have been to are always a step up in intensity from normal tests. And the boks are a big chance. It will be amazing. Hopefully ultimately disappointing, but amazing 😉

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                    @canefan agree (apart from that bit about disappointment).

                    Last time I got to watch the boks go at the baddies in the flesh, Goldie and Bunce ruined it. But that game was incredible. Obviously I’d be much happier if we get up, but nothing in sport compares to a strong bok team facing the ABs in a World Cup.

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                    • SmutsS Smuts

                      @canefan agree (apart from that bit about disappointment).

                      Last time I got to watch the boks go at the baddies in the flesh, Goldie and Bunce ruined it. But that game was incredible. Obviously I’d be much happier if we get up, but nothing in sport compares to a strong bok team facing the ABs in a World Cup.

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                      @Smuts Really hope that Garces doesn't do something to ruin it for you (or all of us). I've hardly been to any AB games since Barnes big day out. You would think that AB versing Bok would deserve Owens, or at least someone competent (by that I mean not ignoring the laws to suit an agenda).

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @Smuts Really hope that Garces doesn't do something to ruin it for you (or all of us). I've hardly been to any AB games since Barnes big day out. You would think that AB versing Bok would deserve Owens, or at least someone competent (by that I mean not ignoring the laws to suit an agenda).

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                        @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        @Smuts Really hope that Garces doesn't do something to ruin it for you (or all of us). I've hardly been to any AB games since Barnes big day out. You would think that AB versing Bok would deserve Owens, or at least someone competent (by that I mean not ignoring the laws to suit an agenda).

                        Perhaps we should buy Pieter Van Zyl a ticket and take care of Garces just in case?

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @Smuts Really hope that Garces doesn't do something to ruin it for you (or all of us). I've hardly been to any AB games since Barnes big day out. You would think that AB versing Bok would deserve Owens, or at least someone competent (by that I mean not ignoring the laws to suit an agenda).

                          Perhaps we should buy Pieter Van Zyl a ticket and take care of Garces just in case?

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                          @canefan Nah. Bok fans ( and sometimes the players and coaches) whining about the refs piss me off. The refs are like the weather and the awkward bounce of the ball - parts of the game you hope your team adapt to as well possible. But ultimately beyond your control. Sometimes, like in Dunedin in 09, the weather and the ball break in your favour. Sometimes, like when Bismarck flattened Carter and got the least deserved red in rugby history, the breaks go against you.

                          Still, I’ll never give Hawkes for robbing us of two clear tries for forward passes that weren’t in the first test against the Lions in 97.

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                            @canefan Nah. Bok fans ( and sometimes the players and coaches) whining about the refs piss me off. The refs are like the weather and the awkward bounce of the ball - parts of the game you hope your team adapt to as well possible. But ultimately beyond your control. Sometimes, like in Dunedin in 09, the weather and the ball break in your favour. Sometimes, like when Bismarck flattened Carter and got the least deserved red in rugby history, the breaks go against you.

                            Still, I’ll never give Hawkes for robbing us of two clear tries for forward passes that weren’t in the first test against the Lions in 97.

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                            @Smuts I just hope the ref doesn't decide the matches. Someone tweet Garces #nodeals

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                                @Smuts I just hope the ref doesn't decide the matches. Someone tweet Garces #nodeals

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                                @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                I just hope the ref doesn't decide the matches.

                                That's the thing with RWC.

                                You lose a test (perceived really - due to a bad decision, ignoring the other 79+ minutes of a match) and it is one kind of pain.

                                You lose a test series, due to a bad decision /s it's worse.

                                You draw a series that only happens once every 12 years due to one ref who is either incompetent or a cheat. That ups the pain level even more.

                                You get knocked out of a RWC.......F'ing really hurts. Thanks Wayne.

                                Fortunately, this is a pool match and both teams still have a chance regardless.

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                                  @mikedogz I'd be passed out after twenty minutes for most games...

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    Some interesting picks. Would be interesting if he picked again post world cup. Hooper over Savea is laughable.
                                    dc638bbf-07a5-4067-bc7d-37fdcf719980-image.png

                                    And no Itoje?

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                                    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    Some interesting picks. Would be interesting if he picked again post world cup. Hooper over Savea is laughable.
                                    dc638bbf-07a5-4067-bc7d-37fdcf719980-image.png

                                    And no Itoje?

                                    Haha haha fuck off Will Greenwood

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      Saw these stats recently. In prep for the inevitable debate when Barrett misses a couple of kicks.
                                      international kicking stats.
                                      Barrett
                                      2015- 55% 6 from 11
                                      2016- 69% 38 from 55
                                      2017- 80% 44 from 55
                                      2018- 70% 35 from 40
                                      2019- 81% 29 from 36

                                      Mo'unga
                                      2018 85% 11 from 13
                                      2019 83% 20 from 24

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      Saw these stats recently. In prep for the inevitable debate when Barrett misses a couple of kicks.
                                      international kicking stats.
                                      Barrett
                                      2015- 55% 6 from 11
                                      2016- 69% 38 from 55
                                      2017- 80% 44 from 55
                                      2018- 70% 35 from 40
                                      2019- 81% 29 from 36

                                      Mo'unga
                                      2018 85% 11 from 13
                                      2019 83% 20 from 24

                                      Read BB kicks 85% with Gilbert ball.

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        Saw these stats recently. In prep for the inevitable debate when Barrett misses a couple of kicks.
                                        international kicking stats.
                                        Barrett
                                        2015- 55% 6 from 11
                                        2016- 69% 38 from 55
                                        2017- 80% 44 from 55
                                        2018- 70% 35 from 40
                                        2019- 81% 29 from 36

                                        Mo'unga
                                        2018 85% 11 from 13
                                        2019 83% 20 from 24

                                        Read BB kicks 85% with Gilbert ball.

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                                        @pakman If that's correct, what is the difference between the balls that makes such a difference to BB's kicking stats?

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @pakman If that's correct, what is the difference between the balls that makes such a difference to BB's kicking stats?

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                                          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @pakman If that's correct, what is the difference between the balls that makes such a difference to BB's kicking stats?

                                          I guess its different gear, just like a golfer using brands of golf clubs

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/an-inconvenient-truth-the-astounding-difference-in-beauden-barretts-goal-kicking-percentage-based-on-ball-brand/

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