2019 Rugby World Cup
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It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
@mariner4life someone mentioned that the ABs are planning an internal game, but I reckon they've been doing those anyway
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Am not so bothered about the 2 week gap. We hadn't played for 3 weeks after the Auckland Bledisloe and were crash hot against Tonga, then we had another 2 weeks off before the Bok game and didn't go too badly. I think the internal game that they have planned for today will be arguably more beneficial than a game against a weak Italian side.
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Weather report is looking pretty bad, so the cancellation decision looks like it was best. Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).
Still too early to tell what time things will file through and exactly whether Nagoya or Tokyo or both will get the full force. Nevertheless, they’ve cancelled all domestic (and international too I imagine) flights from Tokyo and will stop the Shinks (and major JR lines too) from late tonight.
For that reason alone, I can see why they’ve decided to cancel. Having said that, I’m not quite sure why the cancellation was required yesterday - they could still do it lunchtime today and it would have made more sense.
@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
Weather report is looking pretty bad, so the cancellation decision looks like it was best. Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).
Still too early to tell what time things will file through and exactly whether Nagoya or Tokyo or both will get the full force. Nevertheless, they’ve cancelled all domestic (and international too I imagine) flights from Tokyo and will stop the Shinks (and major JR lines too) from late tonight.
For that reason alone, I can see why they’ve decided to cancel. Having said that, I’m not quite sure why the cancellation was required yesterday - they could still do it lunchtime today and it would have made more sense.
Hey by the way gt12, your local insights during this RWC have been bloody great!
Thanks man
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It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
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What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
Yep. The guys playing with themselves (so to speak) may actually be better.
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@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
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@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.
The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.
Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?
Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.
The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.
Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?
Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.
You still have to find an available suitable venue and then be able to transport and house the teams and officials.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
so, a change in plans then?
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
so, a change in plans then?
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
so, a change in plans then?
You ask like that aspect was ever debated by anyone.
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@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.
The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.
Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?
Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.
You still have to find an available suitable venue and then be able to transport and house the teams and officials.
You still have to find an available suitable venue and then be able to transport and house the teams and officials.
That really shouldn't be that hard, (there are plenty of stadia) if planned in advance, and they could all still be flying today , trains all still running, buses even- the matches were cancelled yesterday. Accommodation close enough to a rugby ground would definitely have been achievable too.
It's not ideal, but could have been done with some prior thought. This shouldn't have been a surprise but somebody said "too hard" or "never going to happen" and it wasn't planned for when it should have been.
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@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though
Its a shit situation that had a good likelihood of occurring. Yet the organizers seemed to be totally unprepared for.
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@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
Yes , yes their inability to prevent a hurricane is an obvious sign of incompetence.
Not knowing that this was probable, and then having rules in place to prevent any decent contingency venue, or postponement days, could be considered incompetence I think.
I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I’m not sure postponement days would have worked and the logistics of moving accommodation and fans would test anyone. It’s a shit situation though
Definitely shit situation.
They would have had to add a couple of days to the whole tournament for postponement days I think, to keep it fair, but better than this mess I reckon. Accommodation for teams and officials within a couple of hours of the ground would be doable. The fans are screwed, but would at least get to see their team play on TB. -
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
so, a change in plans then?
You ask like that aspect was ever debated by anyone.
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
I doubt playing Italy would have added much beyond dealing with the irritant of players cheating at the breakdown. They're simply not good enough to challenge us at key aspects of the game.
I disagree. Not on your comments about the outcome of the game. But you can absolutely bet that the coaches had certain things they wanted out of the game. Something specific they wanted worked on, or just time in the middle for guys like Brodie. Those things are out the window now, and the plans have to be tweaked. It's too late to up a training load, so what ever engine Brodie currently has is what he plays next weekend on.
Or they do something on the captains run to simulate more.
so, a change in plans then?
You ask like that aspect was ever debated by anyone.
I'm really lost as to what your argument with my post was then?
