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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.

    For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there

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    @dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.

    For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there

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    • pukunuiP pukunui

      I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.

      Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
      Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
      Bye bye Two time defending champs.
      This place would go into meltdown.

      That scenario isn’t out of the realms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.

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      @pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.

      Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
      Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
      Bye bye Two time defending champs.
      This place would go into meltdown.

      That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly.

      The same Italy that hasn't won a single 6N game since the last RWC?

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      • pukunuiP pukunui

        I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.

        Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
        Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
        Bye bye Two time defending champs.
        This place would go into meltdown.

        That scenario isn’t out of the realms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.

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        @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

        Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

        Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

        WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

        I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

          Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

          Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

          WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

          I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

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          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

          Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

          Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

          WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

          I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

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            I think @pukunui 's point is valid, although being incredibly unlikely. Italy are shit but Japan hadn't done much previously either. Then they beat the Boks, then they beat the Irish. The Italians at least should have the opportunity, as should the Scots.

            How about we were unfortunate enough to have 2 games labeled as a draw due to weather and miss out? Weather that might actually be good enough to play in...

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

              Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

              Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

              WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

              I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

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              @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              I am surprised the French aren't making more of it

              They probably are.

              How many French language sites do you visit? I don't at all.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                I am surprised the French aren't making more of it

                They probably are.

                How many French language sites do you visit? I don't at all.

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                I don't visit any Italian ones either but I know they are pissed 😁

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  I don't visit any Italian ones either but I know they are pissed 😁

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                  @taniwharugby As would we be, which was the point. I think. Maybe...

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @taniwharugby As would we be, which was the point. I think. Maybe...

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                    @Snowy in that alternate universe I'd be pissed for sure, but I wonder if the French are happy sitting on the opposite side of the draw to us, which is why they aren't expressing their displeasure...mind you, they are too busy mutinising (surely that's a real word) within their squad to worry about it...

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      Typhoon Watch

                      https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=precip_3hr/orthographic=-220.74,20.95,823/loc=152.847,-27.130

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                      @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      Typhoon Watch

                      https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=precip_3hr/orthographic=-220.74,20.95,823/loc=152.847,-27.130

                      It's getting closer...

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                        not behd. good soize.

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                          Lucky whatisface missed the Picamoles offside. Imagine if group of death wasn't settled yet!

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Snowy in that alternate universe I'd be pissed for sure, but I wonder if the French are happy sitting on the opposite side of the draw to us, which is why they aren't expressing their displeasure...mind you, they are too busy mutinising (surely that's a real word) within their squad to worry about it...

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                            @taniwharugby Yeah the French always have their own issues and then do something that fcks everybody else up.

                            How about the whole 2 draws thing though? We miss out because we didn't get to play 2 games. That was probably more within the realms of possibility.

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                              With all due respect to Italy, the back-to-back defending champs and pre-tournament favourites going out because of this cancellation, and a team that is a bit shit, and had basically zero chance of winning the thing, going out because they were denied a chance to get a bonus point win against a team they have never beaten, and never scored more than 2 tries against, would be slightly different stories.

                              So in short, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.

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                                With all due respect to Italy, the back-to-back defending champs and pre-tournament favourites going out because of this cancellation, and a team that is a bit shit, and had basically zero chance of winning the thing, going out because they were denied a chance to get a bonus point win against a team they have never beaten, and never scored more than 2 tries against, would be slightly different stories.

                                So in short, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.

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                                Too many words, may as well just said:

                                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                With all due respect to Italy, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.

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                                  Sympathy for Italy ,

                                  But Im more pissed off there is no rugby on ,

                                  From a personal point of view , ive had a little bit of trouble getting into this WC so far compared to the past , and was thinking this weekend the interest would start ramping up , and now this

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                                  • pukunuiP pukunui

                                    I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.

                                    Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
                                    Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
                                    Bye bye Two time defending champs.
                                    This place would go into meltdown.

                                    That scenario isn’t out of the realms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.

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                                    @pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.

                                    Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
                                    Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
                                    Bye bye Two time defending champs.
                                    This place would go into meltdown.

                                    That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.

                                    Realms

                                    Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .

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                                    • WingerW Winger

                                      What a complete shambles this has become.

                                      It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools

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                                      @Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      What a complete shambles this has become.

                                      It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools

                                      I think the organisers have been v. good.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

                                        Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

                                        Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

                                        WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

                                        I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

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                                        @dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        @pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.

                                        For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there

                                        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

                                        Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

                                        Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

                                        WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

                                        I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

                                        Fantasy? The Boks were tipped by many to beat us in that first game.
                                        And the Boks have never lost to a lower ranked team then come very close to tipping us out in a RWC before have they? That just wouldn’t happen. Did you guys watch in 2015?

                                        How about 2016 when Italy DID beat the boks?

                                        Let me guess, you guys don’t think Ireland are a threat anymore because they got ambushed by Japan a couple of weeks ago.

                                        And yes ABs vs Italy is always a bankable win.
                                        To not also secure a BP while doing it with a Quarter final place on the line would be one of the biggest failures in AB history.
                                        In the 20 years we have only failed to put 40 on them 2 times from 11 games. Both in 2009 with very B grade starting teams. The last two scores have been in the 60’s.

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                                        • pukunuiP pukunui

                                          @dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.

                                          For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there

                                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?

                                          Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?

                                          Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?

                                          WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.

                                          I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.

                                          Fantasy? The Boks were tipped by many to beat us in that first game.
                                          And the Boks have never lost to a lower ranked team then come very close to tipping us out in a RWC before have they? That just wouldn’t happen. Did you guys watch in 2015?

                                          How about 2016 when Italy DID beat the boks?

                                          Let me guess, you guys don’t think Ireland are a threat anymore because they got ambushed by Japan a couple of weeks ago.

                                          And yes ABs vs Italy is always a bankable win.
                                          To not also secure a BP while doing it with a Quarter final place on the line would be one of the biggest failures in AB history.
                                          In the 20 years we have only failed to put 40 on them 2 times from 11 games. Both in 2009 with very B grade starting teams. The last two scores have been in the 60’s.

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                                          @pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.

                                          So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.

                                          In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.

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