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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Prediction time

    Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

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    @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    Prediction time

    Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

    Scotland tipping over Ireland and France tipping over England. Potentially, this may have no bearing on the QF match-ups, as there's a fairly good chance Scotland get tipped over by Japan and France get tipped over by Argentina, with Ireland and England still topping their respective pools (see South Africa losing to Japan in 2015).

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Prediction time

      Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

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      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      Prediction time

      Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

      It's not really possible for one half to totally open up because NZ and SA are destined to go on either side. Ireland winning their QF would do it though.

      Would be a lot more interesting if the winner of the Pool of Death (Pool C) got Scotland/Japan in a QF and NZ/SA were paired with Aus/Wales.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        Piri Weepu's brother and Junior Tonu'u are playing for NZ.

        Shit, is Billy the whole front row or is he playing in the midfield like in his school days?

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        @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        Piri Weepu's brother and Junior Tonu'u are playing for NZ.

        Shit, is Billy the whole front row or is he playing in the midfield like in his school days?

        Moving towards the scrum these days, but I'd put good money that Piri was bigger now.

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          Thought it was interesting with shag in his presser , when talking about South Africa’s defence, said they roll the dice , with wingers charging in, but it’s good because it gives you opportunities.

          Mentioned it twice , a little bit of mind games ?

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          @kiwiinmelb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          Thought it was interesting with shag in his presser , when talking about South Africa’s defence, said they roll the dice , with wingers charging in, but it’s good because it gives you opportunities.

          Mentioned it twice , a little bit of mind games ?

          Ben Smith mentioned it too in his interview, you could be onto something.

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            @kiwiinmelb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            Thought it was interesting with shag in his presser , when talking about South Africa’s defence, said they roll the dice , with wingers charging in, but it’s good because it gives you opportunities.

            Mentioned it twice , a little bit of mind games ?

            Ben Smith mentioned it too in his interview, you could be onto something.

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            @Darren said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            @kiwiinmelb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            Thought it was interesting with shag in his presser , when talking about South Africa’s defence, said they roll the dice , with wingers charging in, but it’s good because it gives you opportunities.

            Mentioned it twice , a little bit of mind games ?

            Ben Smith mentioned it too in his interview, you could be onto something.

            I heard that as well

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Prediction time

              Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

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              @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              Prediction time

              Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

              Not sure an upset will open up the draw because:
              NZ or SA
              Eng or Fra or Arg
              Ire or Sco or Jap
              Sal or Aus (or Fij)

              There's no easy QF.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                England coming 2nd in their pool would definitely count as opening everything right the fuck up. It makes one of Wales and England take each other out.

                But, because nearly every quarter is going to be a shitfight, there just feels like less opportunity for a "free ride" to a final

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                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                England coming 2nd in their pool would definitely count as opening everything right the fuck up. It makes one of Wales and England take each other out.

                But, because nearly every quarter is going to be a shitfight, there just feels like less opportunity for a "free ride" to a final

                Like this bloke said

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  Prediction time

                  Which is the upset result in the pool stages that throws one entire side of the draw open? There always seems to be one. What do you reckon?

                  Not sure an upset will open up the draw because:
                  NZ or SA
                  Eng or Fra or Arg
                  Ire or Sco or Jap
                  Sal or Aus (or Fij)

                  There's no easy QF.

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                  @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  There's no easy QF.

                  Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

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                  • rotatedR rotated

                    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    There's no easy QF.

                    Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

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                    @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    There's no easy QF.

                    Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

                    My point being does either of them in the QF open up one side of the draw?

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                    • rotatedR rotated

                      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      There's no easy QF.

                      Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

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                      @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      There's no easy QF.

                      Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

                      Yep and given our issues with Ireland in recent times , I think I’d prefer to avoid that game in a quarter despite their patchy form

                      I’ll gladly take Scotland or japan instead

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        There's no easy QF.

                        Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

                        My point being does either of them in the QF open up one side of the draw?

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                        @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        There's no easy QF.

                        Scotland/Japan are a clear rung below the other three likely finalists. Weaker than last tournament too.

                        My point being does either of them in the QF open up one side of the draw?

                        Not really, like I said before it really can only open up if Ireland win their QF and/or we lose ours.

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                          Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

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                            Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

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                            @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                            They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

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                              Oh, this is bloody, gloriously priceless. Sir Clive Woodwhinge profiles the Teams and here he is on NZ.

                              ""Key man: Tempting to say Beauden Barrett, their best player, but actually the man who cements the backs together is Sonny Bill Williams.

                              Rising star: Richie Mo’unga, a quality new No10 but it’s his goal-kicking New Zealand need most.

                              Weaknesses: Very few, but lost occasional matches through goal kicking, hence spotlight on Mo’unga.*

                              Does he know BB generally takes the kicks when RM is playing & SBW is rarely fully fit?

                              And we think the likes of Rattue don't actually watch games....

                              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-7464649/Sir-Clive-Woodwards-2019-Rugby-World-Cup-team-team-guide-lowdown-team-Japan.html

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                                They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

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                                @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                                They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

                                I think Crucial might have been using the slightest soupcon of irony, directed at a certain Ferner ...

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                                  They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

                                  I think Crucial might have been using the slightest soupcon of irony, directed at a certain Ferner ...

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                                  They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

                                  I think Crucial might have been using the slightest soupcon of irony, directed at a certain Ferner ...

                                  I was aware of that. Just wanted to provide a real answer for a change. The cat man has gone strangely quiet lately....

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    @Crucial said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    Most interesting will be seeing how Argentina cope when the game isn’t a friendly

                                    They go pretty well at RWC time don't they? My memory suggests their record has been pretty good over the last few tournaments

                                    I think Crucial might have been using the slightest soupcon of irony, directed at a certain Ferner ...

                                    I was aware of that. Just wanted to provide a real answer for a change. The cat man has gone strangely quiet lately....

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                                    @canefan
                                    Bit of a pussy really...

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                                      "The Chase" has posted his WC analysis for the ABs:

                                      https://thechasesport.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/2019-rugby-world-cup-preview-new-zealand/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

                                      He's done some work for 1014 Rugby this year.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        Oh, this is bloody, gloriously priceless. Sir Clive Woodwhinge profiles the Teams and here he is on NZ.

                                        ""Key man: Tempting to say Beauden Barrett, their best player, but actually the man who cements the backs together is Sonny Bill Williams.

                                        Rising star: Richie Mo’unga, a quality new No10 but it’s his goal-kicking New Zealand need most.

                                        Weaknesses: Very few, but lost occasional matches through goal kicking, hence spotlight on Mo’unga.*

                                        Does he know BB generally takes the kicks when RM is playing & SBW is rarely fully fit?

                                        And we think the likes of Rattue don't actually watch games....

                                        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-7464649/Sir-Clive-Woodwards-2019-Rugby-World-Cup-team-team-guide-lowdown-team-Japan.html

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        Oh, this is bloody, gloriously priceless. Sir Clive Woodwhinge profiles the Teams and here he is on NZ.

                                        ""Key man: Tempting to say Beauden Barrett, their best player, but actually the man who cements the backs together is Sonny Bill Williams.

                                        Rising star: Richie Mo’unga, a quality new No10 but it’s his goal-kicking New Zealand need most.

                                        Weaknesses: Very few, but lost occasional matches through goal kicking, hence spotlight on Mo’unga.*

                                        Does he know BB generally takes the kicks when RM is playing & SBW is rarely fully fit?

                                        And we think the likes of Rattue don't actually watch games....

                                        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-7464649/Sir-Clive-Woodwards-2019-Rugby-World-Cup-team-team-guide-lowdown-team-Japan.html

                                        His key man is on the bench

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          Oh, this is bloody, gloriously priceless. Sir Clive Woodwhinge profiles the Teams and here he is on NZ.

                                          ""Key man: Tempting to say Beauden Barrett, their best player, but actually the man who cements the backs together is Sonny Bill Williams.

                                          Rising star: Richie Mo’unga, a quality new No10 but it’s his goal-kicking New Zealand need most.

                                          Weaknesses: Very few, but lost occasional matches through goal kicking, hence spotlight on Mo’unga.*

                                          Does he know BB generally takes the kicks when RM is playing & SBW is rarely fully fit?

                                          And we think the likes of Rattue don't actually watch games....

                                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-7464649/Sir-Clive-Woodwards-2019-Rugby-World-Cup-team-team-guide-lowdown-team-Japan.html

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          Oh, this is bloody, gloriously priceless. Sir Clive Woodwhinge profiles the Teams and here he is on NZ.

                                          ""Key man: Tempting to say Beauden Barrett, their best player, but actually the man who cements the backs together is Sonny Bill Williams.

                                          Rising star: Richie Mo’unga, a quality new No10 but it’s his goal-kicking New Zealand need most.

                                          Weaknesses: Very few, but lost occasional matches through goal kicking, hence spotlight on Mo’unga.*

                                          Does he know BB generally takes the kicks when RM is playing & SBW is rarely fully fit?

                                          And we think the likes of Rattue don't actually watch games....

                                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-7464649/Sir-Clive-Woodwards-2019-Rugby-World-Cup-team-team-guide-lowdown-team-Japan.html

                                          When Ive heard Woodward give analysis on rugby , im sometimes left scratching my head wondering how he got success

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