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6 Nations 2019

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  • M Machpants

    @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

    Scotland fucked with all their best backs out.

    No chance unless Tokoroas favourite expat Maori or Tommy Seymour can produce some fireworks.

    Jeez, I didn't realise Scotland had joined NZ and Oz with plundering the PI of Tokoroa's ever diminishing rugby stocks. The Walrus only mentioned NZ doing it.

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    @Machpants Maitland has a Scottish grandfather. That's how he qualified (not through residency).

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Machpants Maitland has a Scottish grandfather. That's how he qualified (not through residency).

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      @Stargazer bb04a23e-1310-4775-8b42-a9b46f7aa36b-image.png

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        One for you @MiketheSnow

        https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

        Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

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          There's an interesting interview with Conor O'Shea here:

          https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.podbean.com%2Fmedia%2Fshare%2Fdir-5vduj-5a266dd&data=02|01||18a275686bf7432c3a6508d69768bf27|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|636862873463644103&sdata=BGB7lFTQiRb%2B3HifGEIV%2ByfKWrLukN0WMe9luDfSBtk%3D&reserved=0

          I've been listening to a few rugby podcasts over the last twelve months, most of which bug me for various reasons. This one is generally pretty good.

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            One for you @MiketheSnow

            https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

            Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

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            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

            One for you @MiketheSnow

            https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

            Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

            Great read all round.

            Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              One for you @MiketheSnow

              https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

              Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

              Great read all round.

              Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

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              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              One for you @MiketheSnow

              https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

              Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

              Great read all round.

              Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

              Fuck - I would love one of those t-shirts.

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                Back in Junior AB days who'd have thought Anscombe and Shields would be facing each other in Cardiff Six Nations?

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  One for you @MiketheSnow

                  https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                  Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                  Great read all round.

                  Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

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                  @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  One for you @MiketheSnow

                  https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                  Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                  Great read all round.

                  Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

                  I can’t imagine that was true. Even if you win and then show them off you look like twats and while there were some individual twats in that squad, the collective wasn’t. Could you imagine Martin Johnson signing up for it?

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    One for you @MiketheSnow

                    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                    Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                    Great read all round.

                    Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

                    I can’t imagine that was true. Even if you win and then show them off you look like twats and while there were some individual twats in that squad, the collective wasn’t. Could you imagine Martin Johnson signing up for it?

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                    @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    One for you @MiketheSnow

                    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                    Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                    Great read all round.

                    Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

                    I can’t imagine that was true. Even if you win and then show them off you look like twats and while there were some individual twats in that squad, the collective wasn’t. Could you imagine Martin Johnson signing up for it?

                    True enough
                    Good urban myth though 😉

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                      Wales squad announced. No surprises.

                      Wales:
                      Liam Williams (Saracens); George North (Ospreys), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester); Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                      Rob Evans (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter), Cory Hill (Dragons), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, captain), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Dragons)

                      Replacements:
                      Elliot Dee (Dragons), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons)
                      Aled Davies (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Northampton), Owen Watkin (Ospreys)

                      Anscombe gets the start.

                      Need to run at England and keep them guessing.

                      Then Biggar to close the game out if we're in contention.

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        Wales squad announced. No surprises.

                        Wales:
                        Liam Williams (Saracens); George North (Ospreys), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester); Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                        Rob Evans (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter), Cory Hill (Dragons), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, captain), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Dragons)

                        Replacements:
                        Elliot Dee (Dragons), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons)
                        Aled Davies (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Northampton), Owen Watkin (Ospreys)

                        Anscombe gets the start.

                        Need to run at England and keep them guessing.

                        Then Biggar to close the game out if we're in contention.

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                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Wales squad announced. No surprises.

                        Wales:
                        Liam Williams (Saracens); George North (Ospreys), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester); Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                        Rob Evans (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter), Cory Hill (Dragons), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, captain), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Dragons)

                        Replacements:
                        Elliot Dee (Dragons), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons)
                        Aled Davies (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Northampton), Owen Watkin (Ospreys)

                        Anscombe gets the start.

                        Need to run at England and keep them guessing.

                        Then Biggar to close the game out if we're in contention.

                        Good pack. Not sold on Anscombe at 10 and I see England's bench being stronger. All that would make you think I reckon it's our game to lose but I really see this one as being close and could go either way.

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                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          Wales squad announced. No surprises.

                          Wales:
                          Liam Williams (Saracens); George North (Ospreys), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester); Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                          Rob Evans (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter), Cory Hill (Dragons), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, captain), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Dragons)

                          Replacements:
                          Elliot Dee (Dragons), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons)
                          Aled Davies (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Northampton), Owen Watkin (Ospreys)

                          Anscombe gets the start.

                          Need to run at England and keep them guessing.

                          Then Biggar to close the game out if we're in contention.

                          Good pack. Not sold on Anscombe at 10 and I see England's bench being stronger. All that would make you think I reckon it's our game to lose but I really see this one as being close and could go either way.

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                          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          Wales squad announced. No surprises.

                          Wales:
                          Liam Williams (Saracens); George North (Ospreys), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets), Josh Adams (Worcester); Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
                          Rob Evans (Scarlets), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter), Cory Hill (Dragons), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, captain), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Dragons)

                          Replacements:
                          Elliot Dee (Dragons), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons)
                          Aled Davies (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Northampton), Owen Watkin (Ospreys)

                          Anscombe gets the start.

                          Need to run at England and keep them guessing.

                          Then Biggar to close the game out if we're in contention.

                          Good pack. Not sold on Anscombe at 10 and I see England's bench being stronger. All that would make you think I reckon it's our game to lose but I really see this one as being close and could go either way.

                          Me either on Anscombe. Better at 15, but Liam Williams is better.

                          Obviously want Wales to win, but an expected loss may give Jarrod Evans an opportunity in the remaining matches.

                          If we win, then it'll be Anscombe and Biggar barring injury.

                          We have to take the points each and every time we get the chance.

                          Otherwise it's going to be a long evening.

                          Roof open. England's call. Weather looks good.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            One for you @MiketheSnow

                            https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                            Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                            Great read all round.

                            Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

                            I can’t imagine that was true. Even if you win and then show them off you look like twats and while there were some individual twats in that squad, the collective wasn’t. Could you imagine Martin Johnson signing up for it?

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                            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            One for you @MiketheSnow

                            https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/47297172

                            Actually quite a good piece, even for an Englishman to read.

                            Great read all round.

                            Not sure if it was Urban Myth or fact but heard there was no shirt swapping on the pitch because the England players had Grand Slam t shirts under their match day jerseys

                            I can’t imagine that was true. Even if you win and then show them off you look like twats and while there were some individual twats in that squad, the collective wasn’t. Could you imagine Martin Johnson signing up for it?

                            Searching desperately to find one of those fabled shirts, the closest I could find was:

                            • 1999 - Clive Woodward, at halftime, requested the trophy be adorned with white flowers/roses
                            • 2017 - some company started offering "England 2017 Grand Slam" t-shirts before it was done

                            Obviously the urban myth came from some drunkard mixing the twain,
                            but anyway...
                            #1 - dick move. But... Woodward...
                            #2 - not English Rugby, just some t-shirt company doing what they do

                            But... in the pub, I'm still gonna spread that urban myth

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                              This was a good one

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                                England Squad

                                Daly; Nowell, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell, Youngs
                                Moon, George, Sinckler, Lawes, Kruis, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola

                                Replacements:
                                Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Williams, Launchbury, Shields
                                Robson, Ford, Cokanasiga

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                                  During the 1992 5N, the week after England v France, I met Brian Moore doing some promo work for Gillette in Brent Cross shopping centre, north London. He was basically flogging shaving foam for them (how the commercial opportunities afforded to players have changed, eh?), and the store was pretty empty, so we had time to have a bit of a chat about that year's 5N, the disappointment of the '91 RWC, the poor sportsmanship shown by the Scots in refusing to roll over in the '90 5N, etc. I then asked him to sign the cheap white "England" shirt that I had received as a free gift with my purchase. "Sign it England, Grand Slam champions '92" I said. "I can't do that!", he said, "We've still got Wales to come". I may have said something potentially hubristic about the state of Welsh rugby at that time, and that it was at Twickenham, etc. Well, I was obviously convincing, because he signed the shirt with that prediction, which of course turned out to be correct. I was secretly thinking that win or lose, I'd be able to sell it to a Welshman at some later date as irrefutable proof of English arrogance. It was only when I left the store that I realised that I had forgotten to ask him to date his signature. D'oh.

                                  Incidentally, this took place at least a week after the France game, but Brian's face still looked like someone had repeatedly taken a barbed wire-covered coal shovel to it. When checking back on the relevant dates for this post, I came across this account of the match, which reminded me what a slugfest it was. Such antics are not big, and not clever - not now, certainly, and with hindsight they never were. The game is better without those shennanigans. Nevertheless, but I did get slightly dewy-eyed with nostalgia when reading the article.

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/29/forgotten-story-england-france-five-nations-1992

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                                    Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                    What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

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                                      Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                      What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

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                                      @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                      What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

                                      what does Hadleigh Parkes bring to the table that Jamie Roberts doesn't?

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                                        @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                        What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

                                        what does Hadleigh Parkes bring to the table that Jamie Roberts doesn't?

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                                        @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                        What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

                                        what does Hadleigh Parkes bring to the table that Jamie Roberts doesn't?

                                        NZ Bloodlines?

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                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                          What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

                                          what does Hadleigh Parkes bring to the table that Jamie Roberts doesn't?

                                          NZ Bloodlines?

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                                          @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @chimoaus said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Looking forward to Wales v England and seeing if England can keep playing this very impressive style of rugby. I really hope Wales can make a game of it, I am sure Gatland has some strategies on how to counter it. Will largely depend which version of Anscombe comes to play as he was pretty dire last time.

                                          What is the feeling in Wales in regards to their chances?

                                          what does Hadleigh Parkes bring to the table that Jamie Roberts doesn't?

                                          NZ Bloodlines?

                                          Blues winning pedigree? 🤣

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