Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup
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@Stargazer I'm surprised by the fact he has already been locked in by the Canes. Surely history suggests he is too much of an injury risk to warrant a contract.
@Canes4life They did the same with Peter Umaga-Jensen, who has been more injured than not the past few years.
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@Stargazer I'm surprised by the fact he has already been locked in by the Canes. Surely history suggests he is too much of an injury risk to warrant a contract.
@Canes4life said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Stargazer I'm surprised by the fact he has already been locked in by the Canes. Surely history suggests he is too much of an injury risk to warrant a contract.
I thought the article said he's not locked in? His three year contract is up ... shouldn't a one year contract be fine? Conrad Smith would have had a short Canes career if his injury record was held against him early on.
Didn't Proctor get a five year contract?
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@Canes4life said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Stargazer I'm surprised by the fact he has already been locked in by the Canes. Surely history suggests he is too much of an injury risk to warrant a contract.
I thought the article said he's not locked in? His three year contract is up ... shouldn't a one year contract be fine? Conrad Smith would have had a short Canes career if his injury record was held against him early on.
Didn't Proctor get a five year contract?
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@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia I assumed he meant Lowe, not Cridge.
Oh my bad - although I didn't know Lowe had another contract, maybe it's part of the Ben May deal, 'we'll keep a minimum of three Magpies in the Canes squad as long as you keep playing Ben May in the NPC so we don't have to.' :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:
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@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia I assumed he meant Lowe, not Cridge.
Oh my bad - although I didn't know Lowe had another contract, maybe it's part of the Ben May deal, 'we'll keep a minimum of three Magpies in the Canes squad as long as you keep playing Ben May in the NPC so we don't have to.' :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:
@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
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@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
That's way too many Magpies for the Canes.
Prbably add IWL to that unless you think he's taking Allardice's spot at the Chiefs?Is Toala locked up? He might be better off going to a Franchise without a whole bunch of young home province players.
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@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
That's an interesting observation.Perhaps he has been holding back during the Super Season to ensure he is at his peak for the Mitre10 Cup because there was not much seen during the Super season that would have seen me putting a big tick alongside his name as a must have for the more meaningful, and important to us anyway, NPC season. If so then perhaps he might have a beef about his benching but on Super form as exhibited he can hardly have any grumbles. In his favour we have only played also rans ('Poo, Wellington and Otago) so far and Mr. Ozich might well be "saving"him for the games that really have greater meaning come points table time.
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@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
That's way too many Magpies for the Canes.
Prbably add IWL to that unless you think he's taking Allardice's spot at the Chiefs?Is Toala locked up? He might be better off going to a Franchise without a whole bunch of young home province players.
@Nepia said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia Haha, yeah, Lowe re-signed for one year in May.
By the way, I saw a post on Ben May's instagram last week and - although he didn't say it literally - he didn't seem too impressed with being named on the bench again for the game against Otago.
Next year, we have at least Evans, Toala, Lowe, May (and as yet unconfirmed by the Canes) Flanders in the Canes squad. As the ratio seems to be that never more than 3 Magpies get regular game time, Lowe may not get many minutes anyway, regardless of NPC and preseason performance or injuries.
That's way too many Magpies for the Canes.
Prbably add IWL to that unless you think he's taking Allardice's spot at the Chiefs?Is Toala locked up? He might be better off going to a Franchise without a whole bunch of young home province players.
I haven't seen any news about IWL re-signing with the Canes, so that's why I didn't mention him. Allardice is still signed with the Chiefs for 2020, so his spot is not up for grabs, yet.
Yep, Toala has a Hurricanes contract for 2020 and 2021.
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I am happy with the Magpies in the Canes squad - probably the pick of the bunch for me. Hopefully they re-sign Walker-Leawere. He was one of the Canes best this year. TBH I can't really see him going anywhere else, it's not like he wasn't given game time at the Canes.
Really liking the look of Toala - he could be a great impact sub next year with his ability to cover plenty of positions. I suspect long term he should be able to lock down a starting position.
Two further players I'd like the Canes to pick up are McLutchie & Rakete-Stones.
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As we don't have our own Northland v Magpies thread on the Magpies forum, I'm posting this here:
It's Neria Fomai's first start for the Magpies.
Michael Allardice will play his 100th first class game.
Stacey Ili will bring up his 1000th minute and earn his blazerAbout Fomai (much more in the article below):
The former Hawke's Bay Sevens captain who has also played for the Hawke's Bay Samoans and Hawke's Bay Saracens hopes to make the most of his opportunities with the Magpies to regain a berth in the Samoan Sevens side and then push for a spot in the Samoa 15s team. He believes time is on his side.Injury update Jonah Lowe:
Magpies head coach Mark Ozich said Lowe has a fractured shoulder and could be out of action for six weeks.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12263374
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Great news (I'll post it in the Mitre 10 Cup thread as well):
Magpies Head Coack Mark Ozich and Magpies Assistant Coach Josh Syms have re-signed with the HBRU for 2020 and 2021!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12266717
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From the HBT:
Ozich pointed out Allardice and Evans will both be back for Saturday's away match against second placed Bay of Plenty. However, the Magpies will likely miss the services of Maori All Black and Hurricanes lock Isaia Walker Leawere. He is scheduled to become a father for the first time later this week and should this eventuate he will become the third Magpies lock after Allardice and Tom Parsons to tick off this feat this season.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12269849
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Injury/illness update after last Saturday's game:
Stacey Ili collected a stinger on the shoulder and is the only injury concern.
Ash Dixon had a stomach bug (so I assume he'll be available on Friday for the Counties game).Classy, no-excuses reaction from Ozich to the loss.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12271989
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2019 Magpies Awards
Player of the Year - Ash Dixon
Players' Player - Ash Dixon
Best Forward - Ash Dixon
Best Back - Folau Fakatava
People's Choice - Devan Flanders
Rookie of the Year - Caleb MakeneAlso this from the HBT:
Dixon said he wasn't sure whether he would be back next year. "I'm back with the Highlanders for another year and we will see how the body is after that before making a decision on more Magpies play."https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12281290
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