Black Caps v India
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Henry has good stats with an average of 26 at 5.7 RPO. He tends to carve up with the new ball, but can be a liability at the death. That said, there are not many bowlers that don't cop it at the death - 10 an over for the final 10 is not just a hope but an expectation these days.
I think the most important tool for seam bowlers at the death is a good slower ball they can use 3 - 4 times per over. I like Ferguson for that reason, as well as the extra pace he provides.
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The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
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The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
Yeah apples and oranges. A real mystery how someone so brilliant at ODIs was such a mediocre test batsman.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
presume whatever you want.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
presume whatever you want.
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
presume whatever you want.
Yeah I did.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
In the shorter forms without a doubt. The tests will always have Bradman as the massive outlier. Ignoring him, Kholi started slow in tests but his average has been steadily climbing, wouldn't be surprised to see it touching 60 by the end of his career. Kane may give him a run for his money if he can get enough games under his belt, that man is built for test cricket.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
In the shorter forms without a doubt. The tests will always have Bradman as the massive outlier. Ignoring him, Kholi started slow in tests but his average has been steadily climbing, wouldn't be surprised to see it touching 60 by the end of his career. Kane may give him a run for his money if he can get enough games under his belt, that man is built for test cricket.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
go look at his record in the last 12 months, apparently he is averaging a great deal more than that.
Kholi is a freak, and we are possibly looking at the best ever
That's a very bold claim. I presume we're talking overall in all three forms?
In the shorter forms without a doubt. The tests will always have Bradman as the massive outlier. Ignoring him, Kholi started slow in tests but his average has been steadily climbing, wouldn't be surprised to see it touching 60 by the end of his career. Kane may give him a run for his money if he can get enough games under his belt, that man is built for test cricket.
Will be interesting to see how Steve Smith goes when he comes back. Cheating fuck he may be but that test record is rather decent.
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@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
Yeah apples and oranges. A real mystery how someone so brilliant at ODIs was such a mediocre test batsman.
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@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
Yeah apples and oranges. A real mystery how someone so brilliant at ODIs was such a mediocre test batsman.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
Yeah apples and oranges. A real mystery how someone so brilliant at ODIs was such a mediocre test batsman.
Martin Guptill? Ah 9 minutes too slow...
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@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
He's a strange one, though. He's got a tendency to fuck around until he's the only person who can win it for them - and if he gets out they're sunk. I thought he helped get Kohli out the other night with a lack of urgency - and in the first game he dabbed around getting something like 6 runs off 35 balls.
If his powers have waned at all, then this could be an achilles heel for the Indians.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
He's a strange one, though. He's got a tendency to fuck around until he's the only person who can win it for them - and if he gets out they're sunk. I thought he helped get Kohli out the other night with a lack of urgency - and in the first game he dabbed around getting something like 6 runs off 35 balls.
If his powers have waned at all, then this could be an achilles heel for the Indians.
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
He's a strange one, though. He's got a tendency to fuck around until he's the only person who can win it for them - and if he gets out they're sunk. I thought he helped get Kohli out the other night with a lack of urgency - and in the first game he dabbed around getting something like 6 runs off 35 balls.
If his powers have waned at all, then this could be an achilles heel for the Indians.
the commentators called it "likes to take it deep" hurr hurr
Gets it done so often it's hard to rag on him too much. Agree i reckon he got Kohli out though, MS was battling at that point.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
@canefan said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v India:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:
The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
He's a strange one, though. He's got a tendency to fuck around until he's the only person who can win it for them - and if he gets out they're sunk. I thought he helped get Kohli out the other night with a lack of urgency - and in the first game he dabbed around getting something like 6 runs off 35 balls.
If his powers have waned at all, then this could be an achilles heel for the Indians.
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The key to beating India in ODI cricket is get Kohli for less than a hundred. Also don't let them chase.
The fluffybunny averages fucking 60 in ODIs. Hell he even hovers around 50 for T20s! Absolutely outrageous stats. Dhoni refuses to bloody retire as well, probably the greatest ever finisher in ODIs.
I'd still go Michael Bevan but I get your point.
I'm so fucked off my boy the Neesh is injured yet again.
Bevan is the other name that springs to mind but he didn't have the same destructive hitting power that Dhoni has. They're almost a different era though, I don't think Bevan would be as effective today where batsmen are expected to hit their teams up to 350+ with 6 after 6.
I recall him being great between the wickets and very good at keeping the runs ticking over. Different game then as you say
i think what gets overlooked is Dhoni between the wickets, he's way quicker than a solidly-built 37 year old has any reason to be. Watch Tuesday night's chase for an example of ones turned in to twos that turned a tricky chase into a pretty easy one despite the boundaries not flowing.
@mariner4life that was such a masterful chase. So calm. And it worked. Even the last bat knew the script.
Watching this (and the ABs) live your reminded how fucken good they are in the flesh. TV casts a production type performance for the viewer, viewing angles are pretty standard so its easy to overlook the significance of a few moments or the physics of the skill execution.
They made it look like chasing 250, and most of the way I thought that Oz would win. Nup. Quality team, hope we do fucken well against them
