Black Caps v India
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FUCKING TIM SOUTHEE! Undoes all the good work done before him.
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Is the strategy to bowl short on purpose?
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BEst fielding all night, that short three legged guy standing in front of the umpire...
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And again. Outstanding fielding by that short three legged geezer
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:
Always nice when they don't run
Weird huh? The other guy hit a 6 off the previous ball he had faced ...
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Good win but I feel it should have been more comfortable.
We dished up some absolute dross at times with the ball, especially against the new batsmen. I think 3 or 4 of their guys hit their first ball for 6. Usually taking a wicket slows the run rate down, but we let the Indians off the hook by bowling pies to the new fullas, and they certainly didn’t need a second invitation...
Good to see Kuggelijn getting it through in the late 140’s too. He was really hurrying them up in his second spell.
Seifert is pretty untidy behind the stumps isn’t he, he’s always good for a fumble or 5.
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Good win but I feel it should have been more comfortable.
We dished up some absolute dross at times with the ball, especially against the new batsmen. I think 3 or 4 of their guys hit their first ball for 6. Usually taking a wicket slows the run rate down, but we let the Indians off the hook by bowling pies to the new fullas, and they certainly didn’t need a second invitation...
Good to see Kuggelijn getting it through in the late 140’s too. He was really hurrying them up in his second spell.
Seifert is pretty untidy behind the stumps isn’t he, he’s always good for a fumble or 5.
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Glad we got the win, but fucking hell there was some ugly cricket on display. Real agricultural shots, and CdG's wicket was ludicrous. Why he even went for that when it was so wide. We were fortunate the Indian fielding wasn't great, some of our shot selection was diabolical. Indians nearly snatched the win, too because some of our bowling was pie cart. Sigh. (I did laugh at the wicket where the bat went flying one way and the ball went the other. Glad no one got a bat to the head.)
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Glad we got the win, but fucking hell there was some ugly cricket on display. Real agricultural shots, and CdG's wicket was ludicrous. Why he even went for that when it was so wide. We were fortunate the Indian fielding wasn't great, some of our shot selection was diabolical. Indians nearly snatched the win, too because some of our bowling was pie cart. Sigh. (I did laugh at the wicket where the bat went flying one way and the ball went the other. Glad no one got a bat to the head.)
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@Mokey my favourite moments were when they'd scan the crowd and it's just all Indians and then there'd be a random white face popping up waving like a spaz or big fat ginger standing hands on hips.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
@nzzp I agree, it was a pity Kohli wasn't here for the full tour. But things may have panned out differently if he was - he definitely adds an edge to the team with his leadership and expectations around performing. Still a wee bit salty we didn't fire many shots against them in the ODI's, but that's on us and India put us under a lot of pressure.
Fark I thought last night was going to one of those snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
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@booboo said in Black Caps v India:
I'm having a retrospective whinge about the Daryl Mitchell LBW decision.
I turned tele on milliseconds after he was given out on field, and he had said to Kane that he hit and asked if he should refer.
Cool.
Very first replay it was sooooo obvious he hit it I thought "oh good, not out".
Then I hear hear dufus in the box saying " no bat".
Say the fuck what? You fucking idiot.
Then the rock and roll in very slomo was indecisive, but if they replayed the full replay he'd have seen the nick.
Second, hot spot confirmed on both the bat and the ball.
I will admit that there may have been a hotspot on the bat prior to the ball passing, possibly from brushing the pad . However hotspot was pretty definitive on both bat and ball from both sides.
Sure snicko showed nothing. But the case for snicko being any sort of evidence is negated by Nigel "it could have come from anywhere, but I'm a complete moron" Llllllong.
Upshot is the DRS failed miserably due to human error. Mitchell and NZ was fucked over by incompetence.
Which brings me to my point.
It was pretty obvious everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, on the field knew Mitchell was not out.
And it certainly appeared that Sharma said as much to Mitchell who then asked Sharma to speak to the umpires, which he started to do. At which point Dhoni intervened and seemed to persuade him not to.
At this point I have lost any potential respect for Sharma who if he had any, ANY, integrity whatsoever he'd have called Mitchell back because he knew he was not out, but obviously has no mana or authority given he could be so overidden by his granddad MS.
And as for Dhoni? Despite his demi-god status in India is obviously an unethical underhanded selfish twunt. Hope you make the final of the world cup and get given out to a shocker with 2 runs left on the last ball with no reviews left.
I wish there were more guys playing like Adam Gilchrist.
Possibly my all time favourite Aussie cricketer overall, fucken legend and I do remember admiring his stance on walking. Some fucken good humour in this vid too.
What Australian Cricket did to deserve going from him to Brad Haddin is anyone's guess.
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Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
@nzzp said in Black Caps v India:
Was reflecting over the weekend how enjoyable this Indian tour here has been. I've probably enjoyed it more than most other tours - despite the fact that they have outclassed us on a number of occasions. They have done it playing good cricket without being absolute muppets.
Their fans are sensational, just love cricket and seeing their heroes (MS Dhoni at Eden Park anyone?) the atmospheres at the grounds have been as good as you get, and it's been thoroughly enjoyable.
So, all in all, thanks India and come back soon. Was good fun.
I agree. And yeah the atmosphere was incredible at Eden Park. Was deafening when Dhoni walked out.
I think we learnt a lot from this tour, far more beneficial than just smashing Sri Lanka and the Bangles.
We still have a problem finding Guppy a partner. Munro confirmed what we all knew, that he will smack the shit teams but get found out against the better sides, which doesn't help us win a WC. Seifert showed some potential in the T20s, but that is a completely different ballgame to ODIs.
We have some depth in the bowling stocks, and I hope Henry's performances has secured him the new ball alongside Boult. Ferguson was up and down, but his extra pace can be a real point of difference against the middle/lower order.
Latham showed good form in the middle order so should stay there, Nicholls showed promise opening and is probably worth a shot to avoid exposing Kane too early against the new ball.
Neesh showed his class with the bat, but not so much the ball.
Based on this tour my A-team would be:
- Guptill
- Nicholls
- Williamson
- Taylor
- Latham
- Neesham
- CdG
- Santner
- Henry
- Ferguson
- Boult
I think 7 is the biggest question mark. Anderson would fill that gap but can't seem to stay fit. CdG found a bit of form in the T20s so is probably still the best bet there. Probably a bit high for the likes of Bracewell despite his improvements with the bat, and our tail is already long enough.
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@nzzp I agree, it was a pity Kohli wasn't here for the full tour. But things may have panned out differently if he was - he definitely adds an edge to the team with his leadership and expectations around performing. Still a wee bit salty we didn't fire many shots against them in the ODI's, but that's on us and India put us under a lot of pressure.
Fark I thought last night was going to one of those snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
@Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India:
Question, is Seifert showing enough to be considered on his batting alone? I've heard a few pundits rate his keeping, but he seems pretty bloody raw and that'll surely hold him back longer term?
Definitely. He along with Will Young I would rate as the 2 best all-round batsmen in NZ not currently in the NZ test team (or ODI team). His FC batting is really quite good. His white ball batting is surprisingly not as good as his FC batting, yet. But, with his fast hands, once he masters white ball batting - he'll be very good. But I wouldn't bank on him being a world cup saviour at the last minute. It would be a hail mary. His history has actually shown him to be a slow adjuster as he moves up the levels. (He was the best player of his age group, and a schoolboy star but stunk for NZ U19s, he was initally was poor for ND, he was initially only OKish for NZ).
Seifert has had a lot of roles at ND. keeper, specialist middle order bat. Even opened in both red-ball and white-ball. His early career was fairly medioce though, especially for a guy with his reputation coming through youth cricket.
I really started to take notice of him finally delivering on potential on an NZA tour of India about 2 years ago. It was a batting apocalypse in spinning conditions for NZ but Seifert was the only one to perform (albit "performed" on that tour meant being 30 or 40 not out while all around him collapsed). No video of that tour though, just scorecards.
