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2019 club rugby

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    @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

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    @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

    @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

    I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

      @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

      I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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      @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

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        @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

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        @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

        @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

        :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

          @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

          I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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          @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

          @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

          @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

          I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

          MAC did default 2 weeks ago

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            I notice Penatana Smith who was playing for MAC was listed as playing for HRS in the Hawkes bay squad list,so maybe a few have gone.Possibly didn't along with the coach???

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

              @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

              :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

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              @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

              @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

              @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

              :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

              That's why I am uncomfortable with this situation. Sure, my guys have not had the best of starts and are not looking all that competitive at the moment but you have to suck it up and take it like a man when that is the case. I hope we did not actively poach them mid season as that would sit very uneasy with me. Tech have had long periods when they have been less than competitive and may even have been out of the top grade when I first joined them back in the late 1970s and have had periods of poor times on and off since then. Hence I can feel empathy for clubs that are struggling (except of course if your club is the combined Napier High School Old Boys-Marist or Taradale).

              Hell I even had to witness another club I am associated with winning by 80 points yesterday over a club that lost a number of top players that had used their gym and other facilites all through summer (and all at no cost to them) only to upsticks and depart for other clubs a week or so prior to the start of the first competition game (they also lost a further premier player who transferred to another club mid week as well).

              https://www.facebook.com/WellingtonAxemen/photos/pb.272092836304357.-2207520000.1556420607./1152673548246277/?type=3&theater

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                Club rugby is a bit worrying.

                There were five defaults across all the grades on Saturday, and on top of that MAC withdrew from the Div 3 comp after the start, as did Havelock Nth from the Colts comp after the start.

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                  @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

                  @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                  @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

                  :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

                  That's why I am uncomfortable with this situation. Sure, my guys have not had the best of starts and are not looking all that competitive at the moment but you have to suck it up and take it like a man when that is the case. I hope we did not actively poach them mid season as that would sit very uneasy with me. Tech have had long periods when they have been less than competitive and may even have been out of the top grade when I first joined them back in the late 1970s and have had periods of poor times on and off since then. Hence I can feel empathy for clubs that are struggling (except of course if your club is the combined Napier High School Old Boys-Marist or Taradale).

                  Hell I even had to witness another club I am associated with winning by 80 points yesterday over a club that lost a number of top players that had used their gym and other facilites all through summer (and all at no cost to them) only to upsticks and depart for other clubs a week or so prior to the start of the first competition game (they also lost a further premier player who transferred to another club mid week as well).

                  https://www.facebook.com/WellingtonAxemen/photos/pb.272092836304357.-2207520000.1556420607./1152673548246277/?type=3&theater

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                  Tech Prems had some pretty dry years. I genuinely think the 2002-4 colts side would have given the Prems a run for their money.

                  That was prior to our homegrown talent coming of age like Ash Dixon, that prop who injured his neck, Leighton Price and Josh Keys.

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                    Tech Prems had some pretty dry years. I genuinely think the 2002-4 colts side would have given the Prems a run for their money.

                    That was prior to our homegrown talent coming of age like Ash Dixon, that prop who injured his neck, Leighton Price and Josh Keys.

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                    @Magpie_in_aus is 🤣

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Magpie_in_aus is 🤣

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                      @Nepia I forgot Hugh Reed....

                      I guess the actual home grown ones actually made higher honours like Bucky and Zac

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                        Snippets from HBT's club rugby write-up:

                        Busy No 8 Iakopo Mapu was another to shine in the Taradale pack, which had no passengers and was more physical than the Hastings engine room. Halfback Humphrey Sheild was again outstanding and second five-eighth Nathan Ramsay and substitute winger Ollie Sapsford were other valuable contributors in the hosts' backline.
                        

                        I have noticed that Mapu, Sheild and Sapsford regularly feature as stand-outs in the club rugby write-ups. I have seen Sheild play school rugby, but can't say I've ever seen Mapu and Sapsford.

                        ... who benefited from some classy direction from Magpie Lincoln McClutchie in both the fullback and first five-eighth positions after spending time as injury cover at the Highlanders ...
                        

                        I haven't seen anything on social mediat that suggests he's back in Dunedin, despite the Gatland's foot injury against the Sunwolves. Doesn't mean he isn't there, of course.

                        ... Central had a good pack with Geoff Cridge and Tom and Ben Parsons playing," Texans manager Cyril Whitburn said.
                        
                        Magpies props Mark Braidwood and Tim Farrell and in-form lock Elijah Martin provided plenty of grunt for the hosts' pack ...
                        

                        Glad to see Cridge and Farrell are still in one piece and playing. May it last!

                        Magpies loosie Josh Kaifa was dynamic at No 8 in his first full game of the season for Tremains Andrew Clark Clive. 
                        

                        There he is!

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                          Priorities? 🤔

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12227593

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Priorities? 🤔

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12227593

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                            @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                            Priorities? 🤔

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12227593

                            Whats with the charging money to read the article??I hope Hawkes bay today isn't going down that path.

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                            • K kiwimatrix

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                              Priorities? 🤔

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12227593

                              Whats with the charging money to read the article??I hope Hawkes bay today isn't going down that path.

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                              @kiwimatrix

                              HBToday are part of NZME, (NZ Herald etc) who have now moved into that premium subscription based model.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Higgins Did they transfer mid season? The HBRU shouldn't be letting that happen if that's the case.

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                                @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

                                @Higgins Did they transfer mid season? The HBRU shouldn't be letting that happen if that's the case.

                                HBRU regulations:

                                6. TRANSFERS
                                **(e) Players transferring require:

                                1. A signed release from the present club
                                2. Approval from the HBRFU - applications must be with HBRFU 48 hours before players are eligible to play.
                                  Clubs have seven (7) days to respond to a Transfer application. If a response , positive or negative, has not been received by HBRFU within the seven (7) day period, the Transfer will be automatically approved by HBRFU.

                                (g) No transfers will be approved within four (4) weeks of championship playoffs (i.e. Maddison Trophy playoffs)**

                                Under these current regulations, the latest a player can transfer is before 15 June.

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                                  NOBM - 65
                                  Tamatea - 14

                                  Great afternoon in the sun wearing shorts and a t-shirt in May and watching rugby. Gotta love a Bay day.

                                  Fatilofa at 7 and Falieva at the best of the forwards from the good guys, with Drew and Buckley the best of the backs. Ellery Wilson appears to be stacking on the pounds, moving towards a Weepu body shape...

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                                    Today's Premiers Nash Cup results and scorers:

                                    Taradale 38 (M Eden 2, E Wano, H Sheild, N Ramsay, N Biss tries; J Malielegaoi 4 cons),
                                    Havelock North 5 (A Blake try).
                                    HT: 24-0.

                                    Napier Old Boys Marist 65 (D Sharplin 3, M Buckley 2, L Moleili 2, E Wilson, S Skeet, M Drew, Z Gregory tries; J Lauano 4, L Edwards cons),
                                    Tamatea 14 (I Bellamy, K Sivivatu tries; L McClutchie, J Harris cons).
                                    HT: 22-14.

                                    Hastings Rugby and Sports 43 (J Chung Ching 2, P Smith, M Emerson, J Rihia, J Tavita-Metcalfe tries; Smith 4 cons),
                                    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 23 (L Latu, K Canterbury, Z Clarke tries; Clarke 2 pens, con).
                                    HT: Pirate 20-12.

                                    Napier Technical 28 (M Lealaiasalanoa, T Boswell-Wakefield, J Faia tries; M Watson 2 cons, 2 pens; L Shaw pen),
                                    MAC 28 (P Latu, F Asolua, R Paewai, P Siofolau tries; V Kereti 4 cons ).
                                    HT: MAC 21-14.

                                    Clive beat Central by default.

                                    Taradale wins the Nash Cup.

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                                    • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                                      NOBM - 65
                                      Tamatea - 14

                                      Great afternoon in the sun wearing shorts and a t-shirt in May and watching rugby. Gotta love a Bay day.

                                      Fatilofa at 7 and Falieva at the best of the forwards from the good guys, with Drew and Buckley the best of the backs. Ellery Wilson appears to be stacking on the pounds, moving towards a Weepu body shape...

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                                      @Stockcar86 How did McClutchie go for Tamatea?

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                                        He was struggling a bit - his halfback was throwing bounce passes all day, and his forwards were going backwards often. He did look dangerous when he was taking on the line though

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                                          Napier Technical 28 (M Lealaiasalanoa, T Boswell-Wakefield, J Faia tries; M Watson 2 cons, 2 pens; L Shaw pen),
                                          MAC 28 (P Latu, F Asolua, R Paewai, P Siofolau tries; V Kereti 4 cons ).
                                          HT: MAC 21-14.

                                          As much as I am sucking on a bitter lemon I am really pleased that MAC have managed to put the sudden loss of their players behind them and almost pulling of a victory against their former players. Without having my fingers on the pulse were the players that transferred to my guys starters at MAC and if they were that speaks volumes for the courage and fortitude shown by MAC. Were the Texans brave enough to start the players concerned? Could have been some solid "tackles" bering made if they did!!!!!

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