Lions vs Canes
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
I probably exaggerated slightly but I'm sure it was more than that.
but yeah Shane Williams always struggled tackling anyone bigger than him.....which was anyone.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
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Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
@Jaguares4real said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
you continue to give Seconds roles, you continue to face deserves criticism.
Your analysis of the tackle is just wrong. We both know opposite teams wound have been straight Red in SA. Calling others ignorant is hypocrisy of the highest.
I look forward to the next coat hanger tackle on an SA player to see what a non dramatic reaction should look like.
No problems with Fifira sanction here, so unclear of relevance.
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
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if anyone was better than Cully at that step/swerve without losing much pace it would have been Jason Robinson.
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Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
@MajorRage agree 100%. Initial contact was on the chin then slipped down to upper chest as TJ flipped. Not the biggest impact and the flipping movement made it look pretty bad at full speed. Definitely a yellow imo based on other rulings this year... and that irksome thing called the rule book!!
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@Jaguares4real said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
you continue to give Seconds roles, you continue to face deserves criticism.
Your analysis of the tackle is just wrong. We both know opposite teams wound have been straight Red in SA. Calling others ignorant is hypocrisy of the highest.
I look forward to the next coat hanger tackle on an SA player to see what a non dramatic reaction should look like.
No problems with Fifira sanction here, so unclear of relevance.
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
ng embarrassment as well as woefully ignoran
We'll have agree to disagree re. TJ's tackle
He should consider a career in Entertainment once he retire from rugby
Seconds is a distraction, not Lead referee nor a TMO
The SA conspiracy is just silly
My point re. Fifita was it was a clear red card yet was argued by Plum
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
Clearly you've blocked out his try vs the Scots in 1996!
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
Clearly you've blocked out his try vs the Scots in 1996!
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@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
Clearly you've blocked out his try vs the Scots in 1996!
which one
Yes I was extremely torn at the beauty of them vs the fact he was doing them against my beloved Scots.
At least they ( and a shitload of rain ) shackled him much better in the next test......
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I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
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I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
He's also quite small isn't he?
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
He's also quite small isn't he?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
He's also quite small isn't he?
He's no Jonah that's for sure
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
I had such a man crush on Cullen. Even now when I hear him on tv I get a bit stiff.
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
He's also quite small isn't he?
@Rancid-Schnitzel playing weight was about 85kg IIRC? Reputed to bench about 140kg or something?
Players have changed so much.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel playing weight was about 85kg IIRC? Reputed to bench about 140kg or something?
Players have changed so much.
@taniwharugby said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel playing weight was about 85kg IIRC? Reputed to bench about 140kg or something?
Players have changed so much.
I think only Cavubati could bench more and he's had shits bigger than Cullen.
Such an awesome player. Fark I would have loved to see a Canes backline with both him and BB. I would be like that kid off American Pie. Pity the only Barrett playing then was Smiley.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
To be fair I'm yet to meet an "assuming" All Black that wasn't a halfback or Ali Williams.
@rotated said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
I've met him briefly a couple of times. Such an unassuming guy, hard to believe he terrified defences like he did.
To be fair I'm yet to meet an "assuming" All Black that wasn't a halfback or Ali Williams.
Yeah that's a pretty fair call on the whole although you hear stories of such and such being a cock every now and again.
