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  • SiamS Offline
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    Siam
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    #1

    Was thinking about league greats.

    Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

    1 Kemble, RTS,
    2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
    3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
    4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
    5 help...
    6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
    7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
    8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
    9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
    10 John Lomax,
    11 help
    12 Mark Graham
    13 Tawera Nikau

    As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
    Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

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    • KiwiMurphK Offline
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      Vatuvei played a lot more at 5 than 2.

      SBW at 11?

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      • SiamS Siam

        Was thinking about league greats.

        Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

        1 Kemble, RTS,
        2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
        3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
        4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
        5 help...
        6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
        7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
        8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
        9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
        10 John Lomax,
        11 help
        12 Mark Graham
        13 Tawera Nikau

        As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
        Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

        BonesB Offline
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        Bones
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        @Siam the other Iro, the Paul's, Lauitiiti...

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        • DuluthD Offline
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          Duluth
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          Ridge

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          • SiamS Siam

            Was thinking about league greats.

            Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

            1 Kemble, RTS,
            2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
            3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
            4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
            5 help...
            6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
            7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
            8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
            9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
            10 John Lomax,
            11 help
            12 Mark Graham
            13 Tawera Nikau

            As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
            Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

            boobooB Offline
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            booboo
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            @Siam said in All time kiwi league team:

            3 James Leulawue (sp)

            Lew Ah Lie

            Ask Darryl Eastlake

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            • SiamS Siam

              Was thinking about league greats.

              Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

              1 Kemble, RTS,
              2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
              3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
              4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
              5 help...
              6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
              7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
              8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
              9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
              10 John Lomax,
              11 help
              12 Mark Graham
              13 Tawera Nikau

              As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
              Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

              boobooB Offline
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              booboo
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              #6

              @Siam said in All time kiwi league team:

              Was thinking about league greats.

              Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

              1 Kemble, RTS,
              2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
              3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
              4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
              5 help...
              6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
              7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
              8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
              9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
              10 John Lomax,
              11 help
              12 Mark Graham
              13 Tawera Nikau

              As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
              Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

              11 Kurt Sorensen ?

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Siam said in All time kiwi league team:

                Was thinking about league greats.

                Thought we could spit ball some players and refine to a 13 or 17

                1 Kemble, RTS,
                2 Dane Ohara, Sean Hoppe , Vatuvei
                3 James Leulawue (sp) Ruben Wiki, McCracken, Blackmore, Dean Bell
                4 Kev Iro, Fred Ah Kuoi
                5 help...
                6 Olsen Filapaina, Benji, Gene Ngamu
                7 Clayton Friend, Gary Freeman, Stacey, Johnson
                8 Kev Tamati, Waewera Hargreves, Brent Todd, Quentin Pongia
                9 Howie Tamati, Isaac Luke,
                10 John Lomax,
                11 help
                12 Mark Graham
                13 Tawera Nikau

                As you can see I have retrograde amnesia.
                Would love to be reminded of the names I've missed

                11 Kurt Sorensen ?

                SiamS Offline
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                Siam
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                @booboo Dane was handy too

                Ridge
                Halligan

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                  Reuben Wiki could play 11. Or anywhere in the forward pack

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                  • NepiaN Offline
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                    Nepia
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                    Taumalolo and Bromwich (definitely over JWH) are surely in the frame of the modern players. I know the rule is to hate on Blair now but he had a long Kiwi career back when he was good. Roy Asotasi another prop option.

                    Hugh McGahan and Jeremy Smith for lock. Mannering and Kearney (the player) for the second row.

                    To put the best team on the field Bell or Iro could go to wing I guess.

                    Foran as a 6 option - ahead of Ngamu I reckon on the rankings.

                    Richie Barnett for the wing.

                    I wonder if there are any oldies on here that can name the 50s and 60s big names?

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                      My all-time Kiwis squad would probably be:

                      1 Matthew Ridge 2. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 3. Dean Bell 4. Nigel Vagana 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Gary Freeman 7. Stacey Jones 8. Quentin Pongia 9. Jock Butterfield 10. Maunga Emery 11. Sonny Bill Williams 12. Mark Graham 13. Simon Mannering
                      Bench: 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Kevin Tamati 16. Rueben Wiki 17. Ali Lauiti'iti

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                      • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                        My all-time Kiwis squad would probably be:

                        1 Matthew Ridge 2. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 3. Dean Bell 4. Nigel Vagana 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Gary Freeman 7. Stacey Jones 8. Quentin Pongia 9. Jock Butterfield 10. Maunga Emery 11. Sonny Bill Williams 12. Mark Graham 13. Simon Mannering
                        Bench: 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Kevin Tamati 16. Rueben Wiki 17. Ali Lauiti'iti

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                        Nepia
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                        @Sneakdefreak said in All time kiwi league team:

                        My all-time Kiwis squad would probably be:

                        1 Matthew Ridge 2. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 3. Dean Bell 4. Nigel Vagana 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Gary Freeman 7. Stacey Jones 8. Quentin Pongia 9. Jock Butterfield 10. Maunga Emery 11. Sonny Bill Williams 12. Mark Graham 13. Simon Mannering
                        Bench: 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Kevin Tamati 16. Rueben Wiki 17. Ali Lauiti'iti

                        Mine would smash yours - when I come up with it (I'll only pick players I've seen play Koro Sneak 😉 ).

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Sneakdefreak said in All time kiwi league team:

                          My all-time Kiwis squad would probably be:

                          1 Matthew Ridge 2. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 3. Dean Bell 4. Nigel Vagana 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Gary Freeman 7. Stacey Jones 8. Quentin Pongia 9. Jock Butterfield 10. Maunga Emery 11. Sonny Bill Williams 12. Mark Graham 13. Simon Mannering
                          Bench: 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Kevin Tamati 16. Rueben Wiki 17. Ali Lauiti'iti

                          Mine would smash yours - when I come up with it (I'll only pick players I've seen play Koro Sneak 😉 ).

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                          @Nepia Maunga Emery was Stacey Jones' grandfather. Him, Jock Butterfield (who I think was nick-named "The Sleepy Fox") and Sam Edwards were the toughest son-of-a-bitch front row in Kiwis league history. Jock has played the most matches for the Kiwis (I think).

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                          • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                            @Nepia Maunga Emery was Stacey Jones' grandfather. Him, Jock Butterfield (who I think was nick-named "The Sleepy Fox") and Sam Edwards were the toughest son-of-a-bitch front row in Kiwis league history. Jock has played the most matches for the Kiwis (I think).

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                            @Sneakdefreak said in All time kiwi league team:

                            @Nepia Maunga Emery was Stacey Jones' grandfather. Him, Jock Butterfield (who I think was nick-named "The Sleepy Fox") and Sam Edwards were the toughest son-of-a-bitch front row in Kiwis league history. Jock has played the most matches for the Kiwis (I think).

                            I know who they are, but obviously never saw them play. If it was based on any era then Nepia, Bert Cooke and Karl Ifwersen would make my team. Two former Magpies and all three ABs and if you read about Ifwersen he was supposedly a god on the field.

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                              We have had some great players , I go back a bit more than most here I imagine ,

                              I grew up down at carlaw park ,

                              here are a couple of guns I saw play as a kid ,

                              Roger Bailey , started as a centre , finished at 6 ,

                              he was our Wally Lewis , just had that ability to pull off the crucial play to win a game ,

                              Another that came after him , Dennis Williams , also a centre that finished as a 6 ,

                              Picked for the kiwis at 17 years old , scored with his first touch of the ball stepping through pommy tacklers , was that kind of magic player ,

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                Taumalolo and Bromwich (definitely over JWH) are surely in the frame of the modern players. I know the rule is to hate on Blair now but he had a long Kiwi career back when he was good. Roy Asotasi another prop option.

                                Hugh McGahan and Jeremy Smith for lock. Mannering and Kearney (the player) for the second row.

                                To put the best team on the field Bell or Iro could go to wing I guess.

                                Foran as a 6 option - ahead of Ngamu I reckon on the rankings.

                                Richie Barnett for the wing.

                                I wonder if there are any oldies on here that can name the 50s and 60s big names?

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                                @Nepia that's what I was after thanks. I cringed with memory loss typing Gene friggin Ngamu!

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                                  Another couple that would be hard to leave out would be the Sorenson brothers , Dane front row , kurt second row

                                  Both were considered the best in the world in their positions at the time ,

                                  they were the first players playing overseas to be selected for the kiwis , before that if you went overseas , ( not too many did ) you said goodbye to the kiwi jersey ,

                                  I tend to think the kiwi jersey meant more a lot back then , all our best players were playing at home, mostly for auckland clubs , ( gee that was a great comp back then, big crowds down at carlaw park every sunday for game of the round ) , and the pinnacle for them was kiwi selection

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                                    Do we think that Mark Graham was the best? A pine tree type. Always grew up thinking that. Maybe Stacey surpassed?

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                                      Graeme West from the old Wigan days

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                                        Kevin Tamati gets an honourable mention

                                        For giving Greg Dowling a TASTE OF KIWI!!!!

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                                        • SiamS Siam

                                          Do we think that Mark Graham was the best? A pine tree type. Always grew up thinking that. Maybe Stacey surpassed?

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                                          @Siam said in All time kiwi league team:

                                          Do we think that Mark Graham was the best? A pine tree type. Always grew up thinking that. Maybe Stacey surpassed?

                                          Mark graham was an absolute gun

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