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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

    @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

    It's his girlfriend isn't it?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

    @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

    It's his girlfriend isn't it?

    Hah, so that's why it's hard not to like her?

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      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/114218510/beauden-barretts-signing-gives-blues-missing-piece-of-the-puzzle

      Hansen’s assessment of the Blues:

      "They've got a pretty good roster, two All Blacks front-rowers, an All Blacks lock, an All Blacks loose forward, another young player (Tom Robinson) who would have been close to being in this squad if he hadn't hurt his knee. They've got Akira [Ioane] who's pretty close to being in this squad as well, and Blake Gibson is a fantastic player too.
      
      "Their forward pack has plenty of talent, and you could say the same about their backline. They've got a very good coach in Leon [MacDonald], and I believe, given a bit of time, you'll start to see progress.
      
      "Having a 10 to drive those people around the park is going to make it a little more interesting. They'll make greater progress at a greater rate than they without an experienced 10 who can drive the bus, so to speak."
      
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      • BonesB Bones

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

        @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

        It's his girlfriend isn't it?

        Hah, so that's why it's hard not to like her?

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        @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

        @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

        It's his girlfriend isn't it?

        Hah, so that's why it's hard not to like her?

        I just thought she came across ok in that little skit. Could be wrong, but she didn't appear to be one of those Instagram obsessed tart WAGs.

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          The quality of this signing will depend largely on when Barrett returns in 2020 and how much Rugby he plays for the duration of this contract. If he stays fit and plays plenty of Rugby for the Blues, it should be an excellent signing. But if he is largely absent over the next couple of seasons then it could be a disaster as the Blues will still be relying on a young no.10 to be successful, and this player will have a hard task because they will know that they are only keeping Beauden Barrett's seat warm.

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          • Cantab79C Cantab79

            The quality of this signing will depend largely on when Barrett returns in 2020 and how much Rugby he plays for the duration of this contract. If he stays fit and plays plenty of Rugby for the Blues, it should be an excellent signing. But if he is largely absent over the next couple of seasons then it could be a disaster as the Blues will still be relying on a young no.10 to be successful, and this player will have a hard task because they will know that they are only keeping Beauden Barrett's seat warm.

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            @Cantab79 said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

            The quality of this signing will depend largely on when Barrett returns in 2020 and how much Rugby he plays for the duration of this contract. If he stays fit and plays plenty of Rugby for the Blues, it should be an excellent signing. But if he is largely absent over the next couple of seasons then it could be a disaster as the Blues will still be relying on a young no.10 to be successful, and this player will have a hard task because they will know that they are only keeping Beauden Barrett's seat warm.

            He's been pretty lucky with injuries most of his career, but it would be typical for the Blues of he got injured in his first game and needed a knee reconstruction or something.

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              Hoping Stephen Perofeta is fit at the top of the season or should I say is still contracted to the Blues..after watching Otere Black run around for the NZ Māori it only confirmed to me what I always thought of Black no more than a top end Mitre 10 Cup player..and I can’t help think he was an understudy to Barrett at the Canes for a reason , hard to believe he was even in the ABs conversation when D-Mac was injured earlier in the super rugby season ..
              Personally I would cut him from the Blues.
              One thing Perofeta has got going for him, he does play fullback

              Barrett’s coming to the Blues still masks over the fact they have not addressed the halfback issue..the 3 they have all have a tradesman look about them and will need to vastly improve..I have no doubt the selection of Finlay Christie is Leon McDonald selection so there’s obviously some he’s see’s in Christie’s game that both Nock and Ruru don’t have..
              Don’t get me wrong,I am rapt with Barrett’s signing, but your only as good as the 9s you have calling the shots.

              Can’t believe someone like Jack Stratton gets overlooked as a halfback ..

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              • S Steven Harris

                Hoping Stephen Perofeta is fit at the top of the season or should I say is still contracted to the Blues..after watching Otere Black run around for the NZ Māori it only confirmed to me what I always thought of Black no more than a top end Mitre 10 Cup player..and I can’t help think he was an understudy to Barrett at the Canes for a reason , hard to believe he was even in the ABs conversation when D-Mac was injured earlier in the super rugby season ..
                Personally I would cut him from the Blues.
                One thing Perofeta has got going for him, he does play fullback

                Barrett’s coming to the Blues still masks over the fact they have not addressed the halfback issue..the 3 they have all have a tradesman look about them and will need to vastly improve..I have no doubt the selection of Finlay Christie is Leon McDonald selection so there’s obviously some he’s see’s in Christie’s game that both Nock and Ruru don’t have..
                Don’t get me wrong,I am rapt with Barrett’s signing, but your only as good as the 9s you have calling the shots.

                Can’t believe someone like Jack Stratton gets overlooked as a halfback ..

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                @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                Can’t believe someone like Jack Stratton gets overlooked as a halfback ..

                There are two vacancies at the Canes ....

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                  Doing a quick search Jonathan Taumateine is off-contract with the Chiefs so Gatland will be looking for another halfback too.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                    Can’t believe someone like Jack Stratton gets overlooked as a halfback ..

                    There are two vacancies at the Canes ....

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                    @Stargazer according to Wikipedia signings for the Blues 2020, at halfback are Christie,Nock & Ruru are all signed along with Stephen Perofeta.
                    I think someone like Stratton would be a very good pick up for the Canes.

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                      Is Taufa Funaki going to be in the Blues dev squad next year?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Is Taufa Funaki going to be in the Blues dev squad next year?

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                        @Tim you would hope the Blues are future proofing some over their young talent moving forward..I would hope that he’s contracted in the same way say for example Hoskins Sotutu and Caleb Clark were..hearing a few whispers that SBW might be sticking around for another season..he’s quite settled in Auckland at the minute.

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                        • S Steven Harris

                          @Stargazer according to Wikipedia signings for the Blues 2020, at halfback are Christie,Nock & Ruru are all signed along with Stephen Perofeta.
                          I think someone like Stratton would be a very good pick up for the Canes.

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                          @Steven-Harris Stratton was in the 2018 Crusaders squad as injury cover for Enari (and IIRC in the 2017 Crusaders WTG). He played only one game (14 minutes). You'd think if they thought he was good enough, he would have gotten more game time, like the Saders always do with their 3rd stringers, instead of letting Hall and Drummond play 18 and 19 games, respectively?

                          I'm not sure Stratton has already proven that he's up to SR level.

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                            @Tim you would hope the Blues are future proofing some over their young talent moving forward..I would hope that he’s contracted in the same way say for example Hoskins Sotutu and Caleb Clark were..hearing a few whispers that SBW might be sticking around for another season..he’s quite settled in Auckland at the minute.

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                            @Steven-Harris Do Blues fans want SBW to stay another year?

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Steven-Harris Do Blues fans want SBW to stay another year?

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                              @Stargazer Depends on if we get more than 80 minutes total out of him.

                              Seriously though, it depends on whether there's a better signing available, and what value his off field leadership has.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Steven-Harris Stratton was in the 2018 Crusaders squad as injury cover for Enari (and IIRC in the 2017 Crusaders WTG). He played only one game (14 minutes). You'd think if they thought he was good enough, he would have gotten more game time, like the Saders always do with their 3rd stringers, instead of letting Hall and Drummond play 18 and 19 games, respectively?

                                I'm not sure Stratton has already proven that he's up to SR level.

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                                @Stargazer Stratton was Smith's injury replacement at the Highlanders this year. Coaches have different opinions on players (I don't rate Drummond that highly 🙂 ) but he (Stratton) played very well against the Lions for the Provincial Barbarians. Just needs a chance.

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                                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

                                  It's his girlfriend isn't it?

                                  Hah, so that's why it's hard not to like her?

                                  I just thought she came across ok in that little skit. Could be wrong, but she didn't appear to be one of those Instagram obsessed tart WAGs.

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Bones said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel from that video? Is she well known in nz then?

                                  It's his girlfriend isn't it?

                                  Hah, so that's why it's hard not to like her?

                                  I just thought she came across ok in that little skit. Could be wrong, but she didn't appear to be one of those Instagram obsessed tart WAGs.

                                  Oh. I thought it was doctored footage and other than that she just said umm.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Stargazer Stratton was Smith's injury replacement at the Highlanders this year. Coaches have different opinions on players (I don't rate Drummond that highly 🙂 ) but he (Stratton) played very well against the Lions for the Provincial Barbarians. Just needs a chance.

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                                    @Bovidae said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                    @Stargazer Stratton was Smith's injury replacement at the Highlanders this year. Coaches have different opinions on players (I don't rate Drummond that highly 🙂 ) but he (Stratton) played very well against the Lions for the Provincial Barbarians. Just needs a chance.

                                    He might get a chance. He's apparently in that pool of players they pick from in case injury strikes, but aren't first or second choice. If no obviously better players emerge from M10 Cup, he may get a contract. Or sooner, if the Canes are getting nervous about filling their empty spots.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Steven-Harris Do Blues fans want SBW to stay another year?

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                                      @Stargazer the only real concern with SBW ,are his injuries starting to impede him moving forward..?,gladly have a fit SBW but it’s concerning how much he’s been sidelined over the last 2 seasons ..given the Blues only have TJ Faiane and Tanielu Telea signed as midfielders thus far for 2020 you would want a fit SBW around ..the pickings in the Blues franchise unions are pretty slim..Northland have Tamati Tua and Matt Johnson ,both have had time in the Blues, but both would need stellar Mitre 10 Cups to get a look in.I can’t even remember who the harbour midfielders were..Harrison Groundwater and somebody else, and from what I recall of 2018 Mitre 10 Cup, it was an area of weakness for the Harbour lads..
                                      Gotta say I found the guy Amua from Ta$man underwhelming, looked more like a prop than a centre...
                                      That’s an area of real interest to me..or do we, dare I say say it convert a certain left wing into centre..?
                                      I know Johnson was selected for the Blues a few seasons back, but had ticker issues..very balanced midfielder with size, around 6 feet 100kgs

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                                        Hoping Stephen Perofeta is fit at the top of the season or should I say is still contracted to the Blues..after watching Otere Black run around for the NZ Māori it only confirmed to me what I always thought of Black no more than a top end Mitre 10 Cup player..and I can’t help think he was an understudy to Barrett at the Canes for a reason , hard to believe he was even in the ABs conversation when D-Mac was injured earlier in the super rugby season ..
                                        Personally I would cut him from the Blues.
                                        One thing Perofeta has got going for him, he does play fullback

                                        Barrett’s coming to the Blues still masks over the fact they have not addressed the halfback issue..the 3 they have all have a tradesman look about them and will need to vastly improve..I have no doubt the selection of Finlay Christie is Leon McDonald selection so there’s obviously some he’s see’s in Christie’s game that both Nock and Ruru don’t have..
                                        Don’t get me wrong,I am rapt with Barrett’s signing, but your only as good as the 9s you have calling the shots.

                                        Can’t believe someone like Jack Stratton gets overlooked as a halfback ..

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                                        @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                        Hoping Stephen Perofeta is fit at the top of the season or should I say is still contracted to the Blues..after watching Otere Black run around for the NZ Māori it only confirmed to me what I always thought of Black no more than a top end Mitre 10 Cup player..and I can’t help think he was an understudy to Barrett at the Canes for a reason , hard to believe he was even in the ABs conversation when D-Mac was injured earlier in the super rugby season ..
                                        Personally I would cut him from the Blues.
                                        One thing Perofeta has got going for him, he does play fullback

                                        I agree. I don't think Black will improve much

                                        I think Plummer, Perofeta and Black are all contracted for next year. Black will be useful injury cover in the first half of the season before BB arrives.

                                        Perofeta should be the starting fullback, giving us a kicking option at the back. Something we really missed this year.

                                        Plummer needs a longer apprenticeship. His error rate is too high at the moment. But I would like to see him used a lot from the bench covering 10/12

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020 - Beauden Barrett has signed:

                                          Hoping Stephen Perofeta is fit at the top of the season or should I say is still contracted to the Blues..after watching Otere Black run around for the NZ Māori it only confirmed to me what I always thought of Black no more than a top end Mitre 10 Cup player..and I can’t help think he was an understudy to Barrett at the Canes for a reason , hard to believe he was even in the ABs conversation when D-Mac was injured earlier in the super rugby season ..
                                          Personally I would cut him from the Blues.
                                          One thing Perofeta has got going for him, he does play fullback

                                          I agree. I don't think Black will improve much

                                          I think Plummer, Perofeta and Black are all contracted for next year. Black will be useful injury cover in the first half of the season before BB arrives.

                                          Perofeta should be the starting fullback, giving us a kicking option at the back. Something we really missed this year.

                                          Plummer needs a longer apprenticeship. His error rate is too high at the moment. But I would like to see him used a lot from the bench covering 10/12

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                                          @Duluth agree about Plummer,I know I have been a little hard on the kid, but he is courageous especially when it comes to contact and he decides to run..just need those kicking averages improved.

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