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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Stargazer I think this is likely an internal email/memo to all the Chiefs provincial unions.

    I'm disappointed in Debreczeni's decision. The Chiefs gave him an opportunity and he hasn't shown the same loyalty.

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    @Bovidae Yeah, really disappointing. Apart from being injury prone, Debreczeni was a good signing for the Chiefs in 2019. So basically, the Chiefs - as far as we know - only have Falcon and Dmac, who should be playing at fullback, for the 10 jersey in 2020. There's only a small pond to fish in for first fives in NZ and both the Chiefs and Canes are fising in it.

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      @Bovidae Yeah, really disappointing. Apart from being injury prone, Debreczeni was a good signing for the Chiefs in 2019. So basically, the Chiefs - as far as we know - only have Falcon and Dmac, who should be playing at fullback, for the 10 jersey in 2020. There's only a small pond to fish in for first fives in NZ and both the Chiefs and Canes are fising in it.

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      @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2020:

      @Bovidae Yeah, really disappointing. Apart from being injury prone, Debreczeni was a good signing for the Chiefs in 2019. So basically, the Chiefs - as far as we know - only have Falcon and Dmac, who should be playing at fullback, for the 10 jersey in 2020. There's only a small pond to fish in for first fives in NZ and both the Chiefs and Canes are fising in it.

      The Crusaders as well they need a First Five to replace Hunt.

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        @WillieTheWaiter Cheers for the update.

        Who is in charge of recruiting for the Chiefs at present (on the assumption Gatland and Matson are heavily involved in RWC preparation)?

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        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2020:

        @WillieTheWaiter Cheers for the update.

        Who is in charge of recruiting for the Chiefs at present (on the assumption Gatland and Matson are heavily involved in RWC preparation)?

        not sure to be honest. there was a bit of a coaches update but not much else about recruiting.

        Two senior Assistant Coaches from 2018 / 2019 Season, Tabai Matson and Neil Barnes are secured for 2020. We are currently in negotiations with a further three Coaches and hope to be in a position to announce the complete 2020 Coaching group within the next few weeks.
        2018/2019 Team Manager, Nikita Hall, has resigned. Hall had a close working relationship with former Head Coach Colin Cooper and decided with a new Head Coach coming in that now would be a good time to look at other opportunities. Stu Williams (GM Rugby Operations) will be the Team Manager for 2020. Williams and Gatland have a longestablished working relationship. The timing of Gatland’s appointment and the 2019 RWC has determined that it was not possible for Gatland to be involved in any form of the open coach recruitment process. Gatland, Williams and I will discuss this amongst other topics once Gatland has commenced his contract.
        Former Gallagher Chiefs physiotherapist Kevin McQuoid will return to the Chiefs in 2020 as Head Physio and Head of Medical. McQuoid has years of experience and has worked previously with New Zealand Sevens, The Hurricanes, and the Gallagher Chiefs. McQuoid is a skilled practitioner and we are fortunate to have him back into the Chiefs organisation.
        Contrary to recent media speculation I can confirm to Shareholders that the Chiefs Rugby Club does not employ the head coach nor the senior assistant head coach. It is standard operating practice that New Zealand Rugby employs two coaches for every New Zealand Super Rugby Clubs. Anything contrary to this point in the media is misleading.

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          @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2020:

          @Bovidae Yeah, really disappointing. Apart from being injury prone, Debreczeni was a good signing for the Chiefs in 2019. So basically, the Chiefs - as far as we know - only have Falcon and Dmac, who should be playing at fullback, for the 10 jersey in 2020. There's only a small pond to fish in for first fives in NZ and both the Chiefs and Canes are fising in it.

          The Crusaders as well they need a First Five to replace Hunt.

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          @Chris Yeah, if they don't sign Fergus Burke (who doesn't look ready for SR level based on JWC, but wait and see how he fares with Canterbury).

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            @Chris Yeah, if they don't sign Fergus Burke (who doesn't look ready for SR level based on JWC, but wait and see how he fares with Canterbury).

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            @Stargazer Yep not convinced on Burke as yet.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2020:

              Hames I thought would leave, as with Taumateine.

              If Taumateine hasn't been retained who is the 3rd halfback? Stratton must have been offered plenty of yen to leave.

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              @Bovidae Jamie Booth will most likely end up somewhere, either the Canes or Chiefs possibly.

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                @Bovidae Jamie Booth will most likely end up somewhere, either the Canes or Chiefs possibly.

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                @Canes4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                @Bovidae Jamie Booth will most likely end up somewhere, either the Canes or Chiefs possibly.

                I'd prefer someone from within the Chiefs region. I'm not sure who that is though. One of Takarangi, Roe or Campbell if they perform in the M10 Cup.

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                  @Canes4life said in Chiefs 2020:

                  @Bovidae Jamie Booth will most likely end up somewhere, either the Canes or Chiefs possibly.

                  I'd prefer someone from within the Chiefs region. I'm not sure who that is though. One of Takarangi, Roe or Campbell if they perform in the M10 Cup.

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                  @Bovidae Takarangi impressed me last year. Don't forget Carlos Price, see how he goes. Real shame Stratton is leaving.

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                    @Bovidae Jamie Booth will most likely end up somewhere, either the Canes or Chiefs possibly.

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                    @Canes4life God I hope not. All yours mate.

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                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                      @Bovidae Takarangi impressed me last year. Don't forget Carlos Price, see how he goes. Real shame Stratton is leaving.

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                      @Yeetyaah Price didn’t really offer anything for Wellington so would be surprised if he gets a contract.

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                        Price is the no.3 halfback at Waikato so might not get that many chances to impress. Of course, Roe could be in the same position in Taranaki based on the team that played C-M.

                        Takarangi would give you something different to Weber and TTT.

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                          Taumateine had a break-through year then got injured. Looked tidy for Counties on the weekend. Could be a good signing.

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                            I actually thought this was the most interesting bit.

                            Contrary to recent media speculation I can confirm to Shareholders that the Chiefs Rugby Club does not employ the head coach nor the senior assistant head coach. It is standard operating practice that New Zealand Rugby employs two coaches for every New Zealand Super Rugby Clubs. Anything contrary to this point in the media is misleading.

                            obviously nzr decided they couldn't possibly pass up the opportunity to get Gats back to NZ, I couldn't see him going anywhere other than Chiefs.. nzr think he's the future, not Coops.. so he got shuffled along with the rest of his salary paid out.

                            I didn't realise that wasn't a Chiefs decision... and a pointer towards Gats moving into AB's role?

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                              I actually thought this was the most interesting bit.

                              Contrary to recent media speculation I can confirm to Shareholders that the Chiefs Rugby Club does not employ the head coach nor the senior assistant head coach. It is standard operating practice that New Zealand Rugby employs two coaches for every New Zealand Super Rugby Clubs. Anything contrary to this point in the media is misleading.

                              obviously nzr decided they couldn't possibly pass up the opportunity to get Gats back to NZ, I couldn't see him going anywhere other than Chiefs.. nzr think he's the future, not Coops.. so he got shuffled along with the rest of his salary paid out.

                              I didn't realise that wasn't a Chiefs decision... and a pointer towards Gats moving into AB's role?

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                              @WillieTheWaiter The fact that it's NZR who employs (two) coaches per franchise, doesn't mean that it wasn't the Chiefs decision to have him as their head coach. One doesn't exclude the other. I don't believe for a second that he would be the new Chiefs head coach if they didn't want him.

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                                I wonder where this video was filmed? Note: who is also in the video with Gatland and Collins.

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                                  Anyone on here rate Taumateine?

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                                  @Canes4life as a Blues supporter I would take him over Christie

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Bovidae Yeah, really disappointing. Apart from being injury prone, Debreczeni was a good signing for the Chiefs in 2019. So basically, the Chiefs - as far as we know - only have Falcon and Dmac, who should be playing at fullback, for the 10 jersey in 2020. There's only a small pond to fish in for first fives in NZ and both the Chiefs and Canes are fising in it.

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                                    @Stargazer yeah a bit shattered with that news, Debreczini has been fantastic for the Taniwha and unfortunately we only saw a bite size of how good he was at super level.
                                    I actually believe he is more rounded than any of the first fives at the Blues..,he definitely better than Otere Black, I am willing to cut young Plummer a bit of slack to be fair..
                                    Luckily Northland has a couple of young guys coming through.

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                                      And what about Tyler Bleyendaal ? He's warming the bench in Munster. A come back to NZ could be welcome as the cupboard is rather bare as far as 1st 5/8 are concerned.

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                                        And what about Tyler Bleyendaal ? He's warming the bench in Munster. A come back to NZ could be welcome as the cupboard is rather bare as far as 1st 5/8 are concerned.

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                                        @cgrant said in Chiefs 2020:

                                        Tyler Bleyendaal

                                        Has he played well for Munster? He was very average in NZ.

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                                          I’m so glad the Chiefs wasted a season on the Aussie 10.

                                          🤔

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