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Hurricanes 2020

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

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    Devan Flanders has been listed as a loose forward here so I'm hoping that was someone not doing their job properly. Apart from the obvious release of Beaudy and the lack of depth at 10, I think the Canes look stronger than they did last year. Finally we have some good looking depth in the tight five and good depth in most areas. I expect us to push for the title.

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    @Canes4life I admire your positivity, but I'd like to point you too the oft repeated phrase 'you don't win the comp/cup without a stellar ten'

    I hope I'm wrong

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Canes4life Flanders as a loosie makes way more sense!

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      @Stargazer He is our future no 8 IMO. Has all the hallmarks of a future captain. Just hope he lives up to the billing.

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        Flanders as a lock would mean the Hurricanes coaches have the intelligence of a biscuit.

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          @Stargazer He is our future no 8 IMO. Has all the hallmarks of a future captain. Just hope he lives up to the billing.

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          @Canes4life Flanders is only 20 years old, so give him a few years before judging.

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            Fair call, he looks like a real talent from what I've seen. Hopefully he gets a good trot this year.

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              @Canes4life I admire your positivity, but I'd like to point you too the oft repeated phrase 'you don't win the comp/cup without a stellar ten'

              I hope I'm wrong

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              @Machpants you aren't wrong. Just hope we can buck that trend with what looks to be a promising engine room. If they can get a stable platform then we have the weapons to do the job, just need a steady 10 to guide the ship.

              I would really have liked to see the signing of Lincoln McClutchie - a little general worth investing in IMO.

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                My top 23 for next year:

                1. Fraser Armstrong
                2. Dane Coles (c)
                3. Tyrel Lomax
                4. Scott Scrafton
                5. Isaia Walker-Leawere
                6. Vaea Fifita
                7. Ardie Savea
                8. Gareth Evans
                9. TJ Perenara
                10. James Marshall
                11. Ben Lam
                12. Ngani Laumape
                13. Vince Aso
                14. Wes Goosen
                15. Jordie Barrett
                16. Asafo Aumua
                17. Xavier Numia
                18. Alex Fidow
                19. James Blackwell
                20. Du Plessis Kirifi
                21. Jamie Booth
                22. Fletcher Smith
                23. Peter Umaga-Jensen
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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Machpants you aren't wrong. Just hope we can buck that trend with what looks to be a promising engine room. If they can get a stable platform then we have the weapons to do the job, just need a steady 10 to guide the ship.

                  I would really have liked to see the signing of Lincoln McClutchie - a little general worth investing in IMO.

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                    @Jonty-lean Fidow isn't a loosehead.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      My top 23 for next year:

                      1. Fraser Armstrong
                      2. Dane Coles (c)
                      3. Tyrel Lomax
                      4. Scott Scrafton
                      5. Isaia Walker-Leawere
                      6. Vaea Fifita
                      7. Ardie Savea
                      8. Gareth Evans
                      9. TJ Perenara
                      10. James Marshall
                      11. Ben Lam
                      12. Ngani Laumape
                      13. Vince Aso
                      14. Wes Goosen
                      15. Jordie Barrett
                      16. Asafo Aumua
                      17. Xavier Numia
                      18. Alex Fidow
                      19. James Blackwell
                      20. Du Plessis Kirifi
                      21. Jamie Booth
                      22. Fletcher Smith
                      23. Peter Umaga-Jensen
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                      @Canes4life Agree with that, except:

                      I think Rakete-Stones is better than Numia, so I'd give R-S the 17 jersey.
                      Toala is an excitement machine. I'd put him at 23. I can see him challenge Laumape for the 12 jersey; maybe not this year, but I can see it happen.

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                        Can anyone remember who our first fives were way back in the days when the Canes still played at Athletic Park and Mel Arnold (or whoever that curly haired 1st five from Canterbury) was in the squad. This years bunch of first fives might struggle to outrate that one.

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                          @Canes4life Agree with that, except:

                          I think Rakete-Stones is better than Numia, so I'd give R-S the 17 jersey.
                          Toala is an excitement machine. I'd put him at 23. I can see him challenge Laumape for the 12 jersey; maybe not this year, but I can see it happen.

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                          @Stargazer I think you could go either way with that reserve loosehead position. I actually think Numia and PRS could surpass Armstrong by the seasons end, I only have him starting initially because of experience.

                          Same with the reserve 23 jersey, you could probably have Toala, Tiatia, Proctor or Umaga Jensen in there and they would all be nothing to sneeze at.

                          I have Marshall starting at 10, but I think they should go with a punt and give the first five jersey to Jordie.

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                            @Stargazer I think you could go either way with that reserve loosehead position. I actually think Numia and PRS could surpass Armstrong by the seasons end, I only have him starting initially because of experience.

                            Same with the reserve 23 jersey, you could probably have Toala, Tiatia, Proctor or Umaga Jensen in there and they would all be nothing to sneeze at.

                            I have Marshall starting at 10, but I think they should go with a punt and give the first five jersey to Jordie.

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                            @Canes4life As long as it isn't JGB at 10/22. He's shouldn't be anywhere near the 23.

                            I think Fletcher Smith is reasonable option, too.

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                              @Canes4life As long as it isn't JGB at 10/22. He's shouldn't be anywhere near the 23.

                              I think Fletcher Smith is reasonable option, too.

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                              @Stargazer I'm Welly through and through and even I don't want to see JGB there. Happy to be proven wrong though.

                              How is this for a curve ball, what about Tiatia at 10? Seems to be intelligent, a good communicator and on recent Mitre 10 Cup form he has all the skills to be a first five.

                              In fact I remember him playing for Wellington there in a pre season match a wee while back and he looked dangerous every time he touched the ball.

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                                @Stargazer you will be pissed if Van Wyk gets a crack before Lowe.

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                                  @Stargazer you will be pissed if Van Wyk gets a crack before Lowe.

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                                  @Canes4life I'll be pissed if he gets a crack before any NZ player except JGB.

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                                    A big plus for the Canes is that they have 30 returning players in that squad who will be out for revenge after narrowly losing to the Crusaders this year. That will fuel there season.

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                                      @Canes4life I'll be pissed if he gets a crack before any NZ player except JGB.

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                                      @Stargazer Kobus van Wyk rooted from Paarl Gymnasium and is a very good player. Played most of his rugby in the midfield and changed to wing later. He competed with the two Bok wingers at the Sharks and probably the reason for him going.

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                                        @Stargazer Kobus van Wyk rooted from Paarl Gymnasium and is a very good player. Played most of his rugby in the midfield and changed to wing later. He competed with the two Bok wingers at the Sharks and probably the reason for him going.

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                                        @OomPB yeah not a bad signing after losing Rayasi to the sevens, I'd hate to say it @Stargazer but he is probably the more proven performer and has a fairly handy highlight real on Youtube. The fact the Canes have so many outside backs could very well mean they are looking at JB as a first five option.

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                                          @Stargazer Kobus van Wyk rooted from Paarl Gymnasium and is a very good player. Played most of his rugby in the midfield and changed to wing later. He competed with the two Bok wingers at the Sharks and probably the reason for him going.

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                                          @OomPB said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Stargazer Kobus van Wyk rooted from Paarl Gymnasium and is a very good player. Played most of his rugby in the midfield and changed to wing later. He competed with the two Bok wingers at the Sharks and probably the reason for him going.

                                          Do you know why he was not selected by any of the other Sth African Super Teams? Other than they mostly appear to be in the poop financially there has to be a reason for this. Sth Africa kindly let the Hurricanes have that seven foot five lock last season and lowe and behold he broke down and was invalided out before a ball was even kicked, no wonder they did not want him! Hopefully this guy is not of the same fragility.

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