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  • M muddyriver

    @Canes4life yea I think it is major downer this whole develop kiwi bullshit. There are 5 wingers in each squad that's 24 kiwi eligible wings. Picking squads on development makes the comp weaker and worse as a spectacle. I love watching foreign players have a crack on super rugby and think we need to see more of it.

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    @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

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      https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1269781186093727762

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      TEAM PREVIEW: THE HURRICANES

      I don't know who writes these previews, but I wholeheartedly disagree with this scenario:

      With Du’Plessis Kirifi in strong form in the seven jersey before the Investec Super Rugby season was cut short due to the Covid-19 Pandemic, and Vaea Fifita and Gareth Evans more than capable at blindside flanker, coach Jason Holland has hinted that we may see Savea at the back of the scrum during the New Zealand-only competition.
      

      Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
      I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

      Fifita can book a ticket to Timbuktu.

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      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

      Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
      I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

      Is Evans really a 7?

      My view it depends on the opposition. Kirifi was in great form before it stopped but with Ardie at 8 its a short 7/8 combo. So a good taller lineout jumper is needed. Fifita is excellent in this respect but he needs more discipline. Maybe Kirifi, Ardie and Flanders in some games to try as a combo.

      Last year Shields was thrashed and lost his effectiveness so hopefully they rotate players this year.

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      • M mikey07

        @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

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        @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

        @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

        Hopefully things will work out ok this year, Lots fo promsie at LH and a VG number one TH. And as long as Fidow stay injury free he should be fine as a replacement

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          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

          Flanders at 6 and Evans at 7, if Holland goes for Ardie at 8. Kirifi on the bench for me.
          I prefer Ardie at 7 though, with Evans at 8.

          Is Evans really a 7?

          My view it depends on the opposition. Kirifi was in great form before it stopped but with Ardie at 8 its a short 7/8 combo. So a good taller lineout jumper is needed. Fifita is excellent in this respect but he needs more discipline. Maybe Kirifi, Ardie and Flanders in some games to try as a combo.

          Last year Shields was thrashed and lost his effectiveness so hopefully they rotate players this year.

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          @Winger Yeah, Evans can play all three loosie positions. He has played at 7 for the Highlanders and the Magpies. Evans should start, no matter where they play Ardie.

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            @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

            @muddyriver Maybe we should sign an up and coming Argentinian prop for our front row

            Hopefully things will work out ok this year, Lots fo promsie at LH and a VG number one TH. And as long as Fidow stay injury free he should be fine as a replacement

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            @Winger Yeah I know like you said them staying injury free is the key the more experience they all get the better.

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              Where are we going to get a decent 10 from?

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                Where are we going to get a decent 10 from?

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                @sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:

                Where are we going to get a decent 10 from?

                Your ten was certainly not your problem against the blues. He did better than expected, unlike many others.

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                  Hurricanes players playing club rugby this weekend in Wellington:

                  Jonathan Taumateine (Marist St Pat's)
                  Salesi Rayasi (Hutt OBM)
                  Murphy Taramai (Upper Hutt Rams)
                  Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wainuiomata)

                  Still trying to find out whether Hurricanes players from Hawke's Bay and Manawatu are playing club rugby this weekend, too.

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                    More Hurricanes players expected to play club rugby.

                    Hawke's Bay:
                    Jonah Lowe (Clive)
                    Danny Toala (Hastings R&S)

                    Manawatu:
                    Liam Mitchell (Te Kawau)

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                      More Hurricanes players expected to play club rugby.

                      Hawke's Bay:
                      Jonah Lowe (Clive)
                      Danny Toala (Hastings R&S)

                      Manawatu:
                      Liam Mitchell (Te Kawau)

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                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      Danny Toala

                      Can Danny Toala play FB

                      I like what I saw of him at 2nd 5 (Ive only seen him in one game though) and would like to see a bit more of him in the Canes

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        Danny Toala

                        Can Danny Toala play FB

                        I like what I saw of him at 2nd 5 (Ive only seen him in one game though) and would like to see a bit more of him in the Canes

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                        @Winger Yes, he has played a lot at fullback when he was still playing for Hastings Boys. Also a good goal kicker.

                        Edited to add that he also played at fullback for NZU20s during the Oceania U20 championship.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Winger Yes, he has played a lot at fullback when he was still playing for Hastings Boys. Also a good goal kicker.

                          Edited to add that he also played at fullback for NZU20s during the Oceania U20 championship.

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                          @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          @Winger Yes, he has played a lot at fullback when he was still playing for Hastings Boys. Also a good goal kicker.

                          OK thanks. But not at NPC level. His best position is likely 2nd 5 so hopefully he gets a run there

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                            @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Winger Yes, he has played a lot at fullback when he was still playing for Hastings Boys. Also a good goal kicker.

                            OK thanks. But not at NPC level. His best position is likely 2nd 5 so hopefully he gets a run there

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                            @Winger He may have played at fullback for the Magpies during his first NPC year (from the bench). He didn't play there last year, because the Magpies desperately needed a good 12 and have several players capable playing at fullback. Tbh, I'm not sure his best position is 2nd 5 or fullback. He's a strong lad, so that makes him very handy at 12, but he definitely has the skills (including a good boot) for the 15 jersey.

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                              Flanders locked in, great news.

                              https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

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                                Flanders locked in, great news.

                                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                Flanders locked in, great news.

                                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

                                Typical, the one time I don't want the Canes to actually care about a HB player they do - the Chiefs are in need of an 8.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  Flanders locked in, great news.

                                  https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

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                                  @Canes4life Awesome news. Now, how about getting him on the field ...

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                                    @Canes4life Awesome news. Now, how about getting him on the field ...

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                                    @Stargazer how about we get all our young players on the field, can't go any worse than we have been. Why not try Toala at Fullback, give Rayasi a run instead of Lam considering he's leaving, move Barrett to his best position which will provide us with an extra playmaker. No doubt Holland will stick with the likes of Tiatia, Blackwell & Prinsep but that won't get us the result.

                                    I would like to see a team close to this one for the Highlanders next week:

                                    1. Mafileo
                                    2. Aumua
                                    3. Lomax
                                    4. Scrafton
                                    5. Walker-Leawere
                                    6. Flanders
                                    7. Savea
                                    8. Evans
                                    9. Perenara
                                    10. Garden-Bachop
                                    11. Rayasi
                                    12. Barrett
                                    13. Proctor
                                    14. Aso
                                    15. Toala
                                    16. Coles
                                    17. Armstrong/Numia/Rakete-Stone (whoevers available)
                                    18. Fidow
                                    19. Fifita
                                    20. Kirifi
                                    21. Booth
                                    22. Laumape (Barrett to cover 10)
                                    23. Goosen
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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Stargazer how about we get all our young players on the field, can't go any worse than we have been. Why not try Toala at Fullback, give Rayasi a run instead of Lam considering he's leaving, move Barrett to his best position which will provide us with an extra playmaker. No doubt Holland will stick with the likes of Tiatia, Blackwell & Prinsep but that won't get us the result.

                                      I would like to see a team close to this one for the Highlanders next week:

                                      1. Mafileo
                                      2. Aumua
                                      3. Lomax
                                      4. Scrafton
                                      5. Walker-Leawere
                                      6. Flanders
                                      7. Savea
                                      8. Evans
                                      9. Perenara
                                      10. Garden-Bachop
                                      11. Rayasi
                                      12. Barrett
                                      13. Proctor
                                      14. Aso
                                      15. Toala
                                      16. Coles
                                      17. Armstrong/Numia/Rakete-Stone (whoevers available)
                                      18. Fidow
                                      19. Fifita
                                      20. Kirifi
                                      21. Booth
                                      22. Laumape (Barrett to cover 10)
                                      23. Goosen
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                                      @Canes4life I like the look of that squad, but I'd put Jonah Lowe at 13 instead of Proctor. From what I've seen on social media, I'm not sure Numia is fit, so Rakete-Stones starting or on the bench at LH. Armstrong was awful, last Sunday.

                                      And damn, how much the Canes need a good, young 10 ... I hope McClutchie has a blinder of a Mitre 10 Cup season, and that the Canes finally get their act together. Sorry, broken record, I know.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Stargazer how about we get all our young players on the field, can't go any worse than we have been. Why not try Toala at Fullback, give Rayasi a run instead of Lam considering he's leaving, move Barrett to his best position which will provide us with an extra playmaker. No doubt Holland will stick with the likes of Tiatia, Blackwell & Prinsep but that won't get us the result.

                                        I would like to see a team close to this one for the Highlanders next week:

                                        1. Mafileo
                                        2. Aumua
                                        3. Lomax
                                        4. Scrafton
                                        5. Walker-Leawere
                                        6. Flanders
                                        7. Savea
                                        8. Evans
                                        9. Perenara
                                        10. Garden-Bachop
                                        11. Rayasi
                                        12. Barrett
                                        13. Proctor
                                        14. Aso
                                        15. Toala
                                        16. Coles
                                        17. Armstrong/Numia/Rakete-Stone (whoevers available)
                                        18. Fidow
                                        19. Fifita
                                        20. Kirifi
                                        21. Booth
                                        22. Laumape (Barrett to cover 10)
                                        23. Goosen
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                                        @Canes4life why leave Laumape on the bench? I believe JGB is making him look bad, Jordie will stand a better chance of igniting the backline and give Laumape the time and space he needs

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          Flanders locked in, great news.

                                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

                                          Typical, the one time I don't want the Canes to actually care about a HB player they do - the Chiefs are in need of an 8.

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                                          @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          Flanders locked in, great news.

                                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-sign-flanders-mafileo-until-2022/

                                          Typical, the one time I don't want the Canes to actually care about a HB player they do - the Chiefs are in need of an 8.

                                          I have it on good authority that the Chiefs did try to sign him.

                                          But, Flanders had just one thing to say to them.

                                          "Hi diddly ho means No, neighborinos!" 🙂

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