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TRC: Pumas v All Blacks

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    Considering we were missing Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, Barrett, Todd, Read, Hall, Mo’unga, Bridge, Crotty, Goodhue, Ennor (starting) and Havili, I thought we did okay under the circumstances.

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      Can someone explain to me how the puma player that jumped in the air and deliberately knocked the ball down stayed on the field ..?,normally a Gardener fan, but I thought he totally disregarded what should have been a YC, also thought he let the Pumas get away with so much side entry stuff at ruck & maul ,continuously asking the Pumas to get back especially at maul but doing nothing about it..,on saying all that we could have taken the official out of the game by being a hell of a lot more accurate with strategies and discipline..

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      @Steven-Harris Abs asked him to ref like that as practise for the merde French refs we'll get at RWC

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        @Steven-Harris Abs asked him to ref like that as practise for the merde French refs we'll get at RWC

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        @Machpants good explanation,I will take that..!

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          Considering we were missing Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, Barrett, Todd, Read, Hall, Mo’unga, Bridge, Crotty, Goodhue, Ennor (starting) and Havili, I thought we did okay under the circumstances.

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          @ACT-Crusader Romano, Hall?

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            @98blueandgold I think our attack was good, it was more skill/handling execution that let us down.

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            @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
            The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

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              @ACT-Crusader Romano, Hall?

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              @kev said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

              @ACT-Crusader Romano, Hall?

              Exactly. They would’ve made an important difference.

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                Games best moment:

                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1152655181177212928?s=20

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                  @kev said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @ACT-Crusader Romano, Hall?

                  Exactly. They would’ve made an important difference.

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                  @ACT-Crusader Don’t think so. Romano has been off the pace for some time. Hall hasn’t yet made it and the two in front of him deserve their place.

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                    Can someone explain to me how the puma player that jumped in the air and deliberately knocked the ball down stayed on the field ..?,normally a Gardener fan, but I thought he totally disregarded what should have been a YC, also thought he let the Pumas get away with so much side entry stuff at ruck & maul ,continuously asking the Pumas to get back especially at maul but doing nothing about it..,on saying all that we could have taken the official out of the game by being a hell of a lot more accurate with strategies and discipline..

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                    @Steven-Harris Totally. Also usually a Gardner fan. That and a few missed ruck penalties. Still, better Gardner than Jackson.

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                      Wow, Hansen just said that Air NZ has changed their flight and they have to fly back directly after the test, to arrive home on Monday morning. If Air NZ hadn't done that, they would have been home much later (a day?).

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                        Games best moment:

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1152655181177212928?s=20

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                        @sparky fuuuck gutted I missed the first half.

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                          We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.

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                            Los Pumas let this game slip away

                            They did 90 % of the job but fucked up in a couple of areas:

                            Attack once in ABs 22 was terrible

                            Sanchez was very rusty - 1st game in 6 weeks and it showed Missing an easy 2nd half penalty was costly Only needed a pen or DG to win the game

                            Barrett OTOH was speculator save for a blind pass in 2nd half after a line break

                            Good Match for Los Pumas took the ABs to the brink I suspect many NZ fans would have been very nervous & might need to change their underwear post match

                            When the last time NZ score Zero points in a 2nd half of a match + only spent 30 seconds in ARG's 22 if he made the kick circa 50 mins in

                            AUS are there for the taking & SA have nothing on the ABs re. attacking flair and imagination

                            ABs threw alot at Los Pumas and ARG did well to cope save for a few breaks imitated by Beady Barrett

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                              Anyone get a closer look at what looked like a no arms shoulder charge on Ardie? Reckon that would have been a big screen slomo job at most other stadiums.

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                                Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
                                Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
                                Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic though

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                                  Anyone get a closer look at what looked like a no arms shoulder charge on Ardie? Reckon that would have been a big screen slomo job at most other stadiums.

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  Anyone get a closer look at what looked like a no arms shoulder charge on Ardie? Reckon that would have been a big screen slomo job at most other stadiums.

                                  No close look at all but looked like a SBW league special

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                                    Yeah I was very surprised that wasn't caught, tho I didn't have a good enough look to confirm it

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                                      We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.

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                                      @broughie said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                      We did not establish go forward close to the ruck. Spread the ball wide too often when it was not on. Reece was good for the Crusaders but international rugby? When our other Fijians came through you immediately thought yes they can impact the game. I think he is too small. Pumas defense was good but all backline defenses are hard to break these days so that’s is why we need to establish more front foot ball. ennor is going to be the goods.

                                      Spot on. We also have some great forward runners. Those tactics worked beautifully in the first test against the Lions.

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                                        @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
                                        The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

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                                        @98blueandgold said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        @Machpants disagree because these are the same issues we have been having against good structured D for a few years.
                                        The drop balls are a result of pressure caused by D. We looked rushed rather than threatening. Happening too often. ABs are a tempo team and when teams slow us down it becomes a contest, Eng/Ire/SA having better players at exploiting than Argies. Just structure and issues are same

                                        Largely agree Game was reminiscent of their last 2 games on 2018 EOYT

                                        Eng and Ire played a similar game and both sides were the better side

                                        Sadly for Pumas they did not take their chances and lost the game like Eng

                                        ABs had 23 turnovers & about 13-14 handling errors There was definitely an air of panic in their attack ALOT of 50-50 passes being chucked around carelessly Albeit under immense defensive duress by ARG

                                        Gap has closed btw ABs and rest of Tier 1 nations post 2015 RWC

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                                          Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
                                          Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
                                          Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic though

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                                          @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                          Ardie and stand out for being good. Jordie a stand out for being a waste of space.
                                          Ardie, BBBR and A Smith top 3 for me. Cane close behind.
                                          Hated this forcing passes in traffic tactic though

                                          I don't get the love for Cane here. Did nobody see him drop it cold in that second half? Most players who do that get crucified here. He's probably short of a gallop, but at the moment Ardie is easily our best seven.

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