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Ashes 2019

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  • MN5M MN5

    @barbarian said in Ashes 2019:

    And while I'm here, I'm going out on a limb to say I like having names on the back of test shirts.

    I just like knowing who the players are when they move about the field. Within a second of turning on the TV I know the bowler and the non-striking batsman. And then if someone is moving in the field I know who they are, rather than having to decipher that fact based off their gait and/or height and/or prominent tattoos or birth marks.

    And I don't think they look that bad. I can take or leave the numbers, but the names should stay.

    Not sure about that. Test Cricket is a slow enough sport to have the luxury of taking time to see who is batting or bowling.

    I also don't consider an individual fielder anywhere near as important as the batsman or bowler. I personally couldn't care less who is out in the deep, on the boundary or whatever. Being a great fielder is a bonus, it doesn't get you in the team on it's own.

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    @MN5 said in Ashes 2019:

    @barbarian said in Ashes 2019:

    And while I'm here, I'm going out on a limb to say I like having names on the back of test shirts.

    I just like knowing who the players are when they move about the field. Within a second of turning on the TV I know the bowler and the non-striking batsman. And then if someone is moving in the field I know who they are, rather than having to decipher that fact based off their gait and/or height and/or prominent tattoos or birth marks.

    And I don't think they look that bad. I can take or leave the numbers, but the names should stay.

    Not sure about that. Test Cricket is a slow enough sport to have the luxury of taking time to see who is batting or bowling.

    I also don't consider an individual fielder anywhere near as important as the batsman or bowler. I personally couldn't care less who is out in the deep, on the boundary or whatever. Being a great fielder is a bonus, it doesn't get you in the team on it's own.

    Yep. However did the poor luvies survive when they had to wait a minute to see the scorecard. Pure torture.

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      I reckon England will be a rabble by the end of the series.

      Apparently Edgbaston is an Aussie bogeyground, plus the miracle of an England opener scoring a century. In fact both Root and Burns in the top 3 lay a good platform for the hard-hands brigade below them to cash in. This was a golden chance for England ... countered by the Anderson injury admittedly ... but they'll only be fighting for a draw on day 5.

      By the 5th test, I reckon only 5 or 6 of these England players may be remaining.

      That's my balls-out call.

      For this above to be true rabble proportions, then I upgrade my 3-1 prediction to 4-0. This was England's "1".

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      @Rapido said in Ashes 2019:

      I reckon England will be a rabble by the end of the series.

      You just wonder what impact the World Cup win has had on the psyche of this team. Is the fire really burning?

      I'm still not ready to make any predictions about the series as a whole, as England have really only had one bad day. At 8/122 on the first day it would have been fair to say the Poms were looking like romping it home, so things can change quite quickly.

      I would say the addition of Joffra Archer in place of Jimmy Anderson will change the complexion of the England attack.

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      • NTAN NTA

        @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

        How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

        This is actually 25 now, but still...

        https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

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        @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

        @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

        How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

        This is actually 25 now, but still...

        https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

        More remarkable in that his first couple of years were pretty lean as he was finding his "potential" IIRC

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        • SiamS Siam

          @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

          @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

          How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

          This is actually 25 now, but still...

          https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

          More remarkable in that his first couple of years were pretty lean as he was finding his "potential" IIRC

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          @Siam said in Ashes 2019:

          @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

          @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

          How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

          This is actually 25 now, but still...

          https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

          More remarkable in that his first couple of years were pretty lean as he was finding his "potential" IIRC

          Didn't he start in the team as a specialist spinner?

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @Siam said in Ashes 2019:

            @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

            @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

            How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

            This is actually 25 now, but still...

            https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

            More remarkable in that his first couple of years were pretty lean as he was finding his "potential" IIRC

            Didn't he start in the team as a specialist spinner?

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            @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

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            • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

              @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

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              @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

              @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

              He was looking like the next Cameron white at the start

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @Siam said in Ashes 2019:

                @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

                @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

                How good is that from Steve Smith? The ultimate way to return to Tests.

                This is actually 25 now, but still...

                https://twitter.com/RicFinlay/status/1157082391266992128?s=19

                More remarkable in that his first couple of years were pretty lean as he was finding his "potential" IIRC

                Didn't he start in the team as a specialist spinner?

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                @Hooroo @KiwiPie

                He was a bowling all rounder

                Here's the late Terry Jenner talking about his potential as a bowler, why his action suffered because of short form cricket and how to make him a Test bowler

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                  @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

                  He was looking like the next Cameron white at the start

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                  @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

                  @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                  @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

                  He was looking like the next Cameron white at the start

                  Cameron White, Cameron White, he bats OK but his bowling's shite.

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                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

                    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                    @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

                    He was looking like the next Cameron white at the start

                    Cameron White, Cameron White, he bats OK but his bowling's shite.

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                    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

                    @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                    @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

                    He was looking like the next Cameron white at the start

                    Cameron White, Cameron White, he bats OK but his bowling's shite.

                    Were you in England for the final?

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

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                      @KiwiPie said in Ashes 2019:

                      @Hooroo Not sure he was a specialist spinner but definitely he came in as an all-rounder down the order - luckily he can bat quite well as his bowling is shite.

                      He’s certainly no Bradman but an average of 60 odd is fairly good I guess.

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                        Pretty sure at one point Smith had a 'next Shane Warne' tag.

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                        • SiamS Offline
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                          Poms will have to be mindful of how many boundaries they hit. Get that right and they can still win this game of cricket .... that's how it works right?

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                            Smith's performance in this test has been outstanding. Well done to him.

                            He is something of a conundrum for me.
                            If you compare Smith with Kohli and Williamson - probably the 3 best test batsmen at the moment - the fact that he is right up there is surprising.
                            Kohli and Williamson have great, classic technique.
                            Smith is a bag of fidgets, footwork that would have a school cricket coach pulling his hair out and a tendency to plant both pads square on plumb in front of the wickets. It looks like he has no right to be one of the best test batsmen currently. And yet he is. Kudos.

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                            • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                              Smith's performance in this test has been outstanding. Well done to him.

                              He is something of a conundrum for me.
                              If you compare Smith with Kohli and Williamson - probably the 3 best test batsmen at the moment - the fact that he is right up there is surprising.
                              Kohli and Williamson have great, classic technique.
                              Smith is a bag of fidgets, footwork that would have a school cricket coach pulling his hair out and a tendency to plant both pads square on plumb in front of the wickets. It looks like he has no right to be one of the best test batsmen currently. And yet he is. Kudos.

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                              @Billy-Webb I was just watching replay of his innings. It's bizarre. How does he get away with that shit?
                              Apart from a complete lack of his ability I would have had that crap knocked out of me by coaches before my teens.

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                @Billy-Webb I was just watching replay of his innings. It's bizarre. How does he get away with that shit?
                                Apart from a complete lack of his ability I would have had that crap knocked out of me by coaches before my teens.

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                                @Snowy

                                In one sense he's absolutely horrible to watch compared to Kohli & Williamson. In another, you just sit back and watch in awe of his batting.

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Billy-Webb I was just watching replay of his innings. It's bizarre. How does he get away with that shit?
                                  Apart from a complete lack of his ability I would have had that crap knocked out of me by coaches before my teens.

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                                  @Snowy said in Ashes 2019:

                                  @Billy-Webb I was just watching replay of his innings. It's bizarre. How does he get away with that shit?
                                  Apart from a complete lack of his ability I would have had that crap knocked out of me by coaches before my teens.

                                  That made me laugh because I can relate.
                                  I had all the right technique. Problem for me was my reaction time was generally half a second too late always.
                                  Which generally meant... I looked really good scoring really poorly.

                                  But back to Smith: I can't recall him being quite so unorthodox early in his test career. Maybe I just didn't pay that much attention... but I think he has worked out a technique that suits him. However, if he loses even a fraction of that incredible hand-eye coordination, his technique is likely to land him in trouble.

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                                  • barbarianB barbarian

                                    I reckon this is going to be a great series. And how rare is it to have a live test going into day 5 these days!?!?!

                                    This game could have unfolded sixteen different ways - if Smith was dismissed early in either innings, if Burns knicked one of his 100 play-and-misses, if either team's tail doesn't wag, if the ball dislodges Root's bail etc etc etc. Both teams will walk off after this test thinking they should have won.

                                    As it stands, the game is more or less in the hands of Lyon. The deck looks pretty dead for the quicks, but Lyon is extracting plenty of turn. I'd be giving a slight edge to the draw, just because I like England's batting depth. But if they are 3-fa at lunch then I reckon we could just get it done.

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                                    Burns gooorne.

                                    Looked too essy for the Ockers.

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                                    • barbarianB barbarian

                                      And while I'm here, I'm going out on a limb to say I like having names on the back of test shirts.

                                      I just like knowing who the players are when they move about the field. Within a second of turning on the TV I know the bowler and the non-striking batsman. And then if someone is moving in the field I know who they are, rather than having to decipher that fact based off their gait and/or height and/or prominent tattoos or birth marks.

                                      And I don't think they look that bad. I can take or leave the numbers, but the names should stay.

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                                      @barbarian said in Ashes 2019:

                                      And while I'm here, I'm going out on a limb to say I like having names on the back of test shirts.

                                      I just like knowing who the players are when they move about the field. Within a second of turning on the TV I know the bowler and the non-striking batsman. And then if someone is moving in the field I know who they are, rather than having to decipher that fact based off their gait and/or height and/or prominent tattoos or birth marks.

                                      And I don't think they look that bad. I can take or leave the numbers, but the names should stay.

                                      Sorry. Disagree. Hate the numbers.

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                                        So... Any discussion on the back foot noball that got Head?

                                        Cheating fucking Poms.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          So... Any discussion on the back foot noball that got Head?

                                          Cheating fucking Poms.

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                                          @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

                                          So... Any discussion on the back foot noball that got Head?

                                          Cheating fucking Poms.

                                          Didn't see..

                                          Geez i thougt that was an edge on that last one

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