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Ashes 2019

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Archer must think international cricket is a piece of piss

    Especially home conditions where its grey overheard, but he's still putting it in the right area.

    Will it be the same out here on a 39C day with a flat deck and the Kookaburra in his hand? Dunno.

    yea, he'll just hate the bounce and pace in Australia...

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    @mariner4life mostly mythical, these days.

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    • NTAN NTA

      @mariner4life mostly mythical, these days.

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      @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

      @mariner4life mostly mythical, these days.

      150+ is still 150+!

      Heโ€™d thrive with his late swing and pace.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

        @mariner4life mostly mythical, these days.

        150+ is still 150+!

        Heโ€™d thrive with his late swing and pace.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in Ashes 2019:

        @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

        @mariner4life mostly mythical, these days.

        150+ is still 150+!

        Heโ€™d thrive with his late swing and pace.

        Pace yes - but is less likely to get the same weaponised swing out of the Kookaburra in drier conditions.

        Would anyone like to face him in the first hour at the Gabba? Fuck no. But in the middle session it would be a better bet.

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          No forecast rain for the next four days so should be a result:

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2644688

          Big pressure on the England batsman to post 300+. Captain Root will be under especial pressure to perform at his home ground.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            No forecast rain for the next four days so should be a result:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2644688

            Big pressure on the England batsman to post 300+. Captain Root will be under especial pressure to perform at his home ground.

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            @sparky said in Ashes 2019:

            No forecast rain for the next four days so should be a result:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2644688

            Big pressure on the England batsman to post 300+. Captain Root will be under especial pressure to perform at his home ground.

            Root to score a ton. England with a 300 run lead and skittle Australia for an innings victory.

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            • NTAN NTA

              @sparky said in Ashes 2019:

              No forecast rain for the next four days so should be a result:

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2644688

              Big pressure on the England batsman to post 300+. Captain Root will be under especial pressure to perform at his home ground.

              Root to score a ton. England with a 300 run lead and skittle Australia for an innings victory.

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              @NTA England the firm favourites for this test, unless Australia get them out cheaply. Fill your boots time in terms of batting conditions for the next two days. The Headingly pitch normally cracks a bit if it gets some sunshine so Lyons will be a major weapon if it goes to a 4th innings.

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                Great stuff England, win this one!

                Not really an England supporter (or Aussie) but I've got a couple of days at the 5th test lined up, so I want the series to still be alive. If England win this one ... it will be for sure.

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                  Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

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                    @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

                    Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

                    Tricky one, that. For starters he didn't have a superb CWC, and with the red ball has no great performances in recent memory.

                    But a left hander, with a known ability to swing the ball, and to scuff the pitch a bit for Lyon over the wicket at the RH bats... ๐Ÿค”

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

                      Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

                      Tricky one, that. For starters he didn't have a superb CWC, and with the red ball has no great performances in recent memory.

                      But a left hander, with a known ability to swing the ball, and to scuff the pitch a bit for Lyon over the wicket at the RH bats... ๐Ÿค”

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                      @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

                      @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

                      Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

                      Tricky one, that. For starters he didn't have a superb CWC, and with the red ball has no great performances in recent memory.

                      But a left hander, with a known ability to swing the ball, and to scuff the pitch a bit for Lyon over the wicket at the RH bats... ๐Ÿค”

                      Keh?!
                      Wasn't Starc one of the leading wicket takers?

                      Thought he had an outstanding world cup.

                      EDIT: he was the leading wicket taker. A new record for world cups with 27.

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                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                        @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

                        @Donsteppa said in Ashes 2019:

                        Australian bowlers need a morning where they demonstrate why they're keeping Starc out of the side.

                        Tricky one, that. For starters he didn't have a superb CWC, and with the red ball has no great performances in recent memory.

                        But a left hander, with a known ability to swing the ball, and to scuff the pitch a bit for Lyon over the wicket at the RH bats... ๐Ÿค”

                        Keh?!
                        Wasn't Starc one of the leading wicket takers?

                        Thought he had an outstanding world cup.

                        EDIT: he was the leading wicket taker. A new record for world cups with 27.

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                        @Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:

                        Keh?!
                        Wasn't Starc one of the leading wicket takers?

                        Thought he had an outstanding world cup.

                        EDIT: he was the leading wicket taker. A new record for world cups with 27.

                        CWC2019: 10 matches for 27 wickets @ 18.59 (SR 20.51)
                        CWC2015: 8 matches for 22 wickets @ 10.18 (SR 17.4)

                        Ten point one fucking eight ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                        Tell me he was as good in 2019 versus 2015. Can't be done.

                        It was interesting to look at each innings, too - working backwards:

                        England: 1/70 dismissing bat 2
                        South Africa: 2/59 dismissing bats 5 and 6
                        New Zealand: 5/26 dismissing 3, 5, 8, 9, 10
                        England: 4/43 dismissing 3, 4, 5, 9
                        Bangladesh: 2/55 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 1 & 7
                        Sri Lanka: 4/55 dismissing 2, 4, 6, 7
                        Pakistan: 2/43 dismissing 9 & 10
                        India: 1/74 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 2
                        West Indies: 5/46 dismissing 1, 6, 7, 8 & 10
                        Afghanistan: 1/31 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 1

                        Very hit and miss - distribution of wickets is fairly even but some of the runs conceded shows the price he paid - the semifinal, South Africa, and India really fucked his average. Hardly threatened the Ghanis either.

                        1: 3
                        2: 3
                        3: 2
                        4: 2
                        5: 3
                        6: 3
                        7: 3
                        8: 2
                        9: 4
                        10: 2

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:

                          Keh?!
                          Wasn't Starc one of the leading wicket takers?

                          Thought he had an outstanding world cup.

                          EDIT: he was the leading wicket taker. A new record for world cups with 27.

                          CWC2019: 10 matches for 27 wickets @ 18.59 (SR 20.51)
                          CWC2015: 8 matches for 22 wickets @ 10.18 (SR 17.4)

                          Ten point one fucking eight ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          Tell me he was as good in 2019 versus 2015. Can't be done.

                          It was interesting to look at each innings, too - working backwards:

                          England: 1/70 dismissing bat 2
                          South Africa: 2/59 dismissing bats 5 and 6
                          New Zealand: 5/26 dismissing 3, 5, 8, 9, 10
                          England: 4/43 dismissing 3, 4, 5, 9
                          Bangladesh: 2/55 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 1 & 7
                          Sri Lanka: 4/55 dismissing 2, 4, 6, 7
                          Pakistan: 2/43 dismissing 9 & 10
                          India: 1/74 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 2
                          West Indies: 5/46 dismissing 1, 6, 7, 8 & 10
                          Afghanistan: 1/31 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ dismissing 1

                          Very hit and miss - distribution of wickets is fairly even but some of the runs conceded shows the price he paid - the semifinal, South Africa, and India really fucked his average. Hardly threatened the Ghanis either.

                          1: 3
                          2: 3
                          3: 2
                          4: 2
                          5: 3
                          6: 3
                          7: 3
                          8: 2
                          9: 4
                          10: 2

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                          @NTA

                          Detailed analysis NTA! Still doesn't take away from the fact that he was bloody good at the CWC.

                          I guess for me, the key is the hit-and-miss aspect you mention.
                          Sure he can be a bit wayward at times, but he also regularly produces a jaffer.

                          The currently playing quick attack of Pattinson, Cummins and Hazelwood is good. I rate all 3 of them.
                          But none have the x-factor that Starc does in my view.
                          Plus he is a lefty. So you add variety and make the batsman have to adapt.

                          The big question is who of the current 3 do you leave out for Starc...? Tough call.

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                            @NTA

                            Detailed analysis NTA! Still doesn't take away from the fact that he was bloody good at the CWC.

                            I guess for me, the key is the hit-and-miss aspect you mention.
                            Sure he can be a bit wayward at times, but he also regularly produces a jaffer.

                            The currently playing quick attack of Pattinson, Cummins and Hazelwood is good. I rate all 3 of them.
                            But none have the x-factor that Starc does in my view.
                            Plus he is a lefty. So you add variety and make the batsman have to adapt.

                            The big question is who of the current 3 do you leave out for Starc...? Tough call.

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                            @Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:

                            Sure he can be a bit wayward at times, but he also regularly produces a jaffer.

                            The lack of an all rounder makes it harder for Starc to make the side. If they had a good 5th bowling option it would be easier to accept his inconsistency

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:

                              Sure he can be a bit wayward at times, but he also regularly produces a jaffer.

                              The lack of an all rounder makes it harder for Starc to make the side. If they had a good 5th bowling option it would be easier to accept his inconsistency

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                              @Duluth said in Ashes 2019:

                              The lack of an all rounder makes it harder for Starc to make the side. If they had a good 5th bowling option it would be easier to accept his inconsistency

                              Very good point.
                              Maybe they should reconsider the current policy of playing 3 keepers.... It's not like any of them are giving the scorers writers cramp of late.

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                                Fuck yeah The Hoff

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                                  Roy gone. He just screams of a guy who needs to be dropped and will come back a world beater at test level in three years - needs to actually play some red ball cricket first.

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    Fuck yeah The Hoff

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                                    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

                                    Fuck yeah The Hoff

                                    Wash.
                                    Rinse.
                                    Repeat.

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                                      Joe Root's shockingly out of touch.

                                      Needs to start batting half a metre out of his crease or something because he's getting pinned back

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                                        I love watching him bowl, what a player

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                                          Joel Wilson is also shockingly out of touch

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