Bledisloe #2
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@rotated said in Bledisloe #2:
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:
The RWC is so much more important.
I might be in the minority but I would prefer they keep the 25 year unbeaten streak at Eden Park going and the Bledisloe than go three on the trot. It's not even really close.
Luckily it's not mutually exclusive.
But, if it was a real choice I'd much rather bank another RWC, because that's something that can never be taken away - whereas the Eden Park record is up for grabs every time we play there.
Don't think Hansen should be putting the Bled at risk with an experimental line-up though. He should be playing whatever he thinks is our strongest available team this week.
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:
But, if it was a real choice I'd much rather bank another RWC, because that's something that can never be taken away - whereas the Eden Park record is up for grabs every time we play there.
Also, how much psychological damage will we do to the rest of the Rugby world if we romp this RWC, after the buildup we had. Who's going to bet against us next time?
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@ploughboy said in Bledisloe #2:
is luke jacobson still injured. i must be the only person who is not happy with this loose forward mix.for me it just didnt work last week .
I think I read he had returned to training this week. I agree - i'd have him in the 23.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
@ploughboy said in Bledisloe #2:
is luke jacobson still injured. i must be the only person who is not happy with this loose forward mix.for me it just didnt work last week .
I think I read he had returned to training this week. I agree - i'd have him in the 23.
If true, then maybe he has been asked to play for Waikato this weekend.
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@ploughboy I don't like playing two opensides at all, but I've banged that drum enough.
@Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:
@ploughboy I don't like playing two opensides at all, but I've banged that drum enough.
All I can think of is , they don’t believe they got a proper look at it with losing a lock and playing with a weakened pack anyway.
But I’m on your side.
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Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
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Well last weeks team seemed to get a fern seal-of-approval and that backfired horribly. Let's hope the lack of approval this week is the curse we need to win this one well and prove yet again we don't really know what we are saying but by damn we're not going to stop saying it!
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In all seriousness I feel better about this side than last weeks.
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:
But, if it was a real choice I'd much rather bank another RWC, because that's something that can never be taken away - whereas the Eden Park record is up for grabs every time we play there.
Also, how much psychological damage will we do to the rest of the Rugby world if we romp this RWC, after the buildup we had. Who's going to bet against us next time?
@nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:
Also, how much psychological damage will we do to the rest of the Rugby world if we romp this RWC, after the buildup we had. Who's going to bet against us next time?
It would be a bit like Aussie in the 2007 CWC.
We beat them 3-0 at home just prior to the tournament and had shown some frailties, especially with the white ball, post 2005 Ashes...
Then turn up to the West Indies and win every game - closest winning margin was 100 runs/8 wickets or so. Bloody Aussies.
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In all seriousness I feel better about this side than last weeks.
@ACT-Crusader if they can't get up for this one we are really stuffed
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@ACT-Crusader if they can't get up for this one we are really stuffed
@canefan what will be worse, is if we can't get up for this game and then go on to win the RWC, that IMO would show the slow decline of importance of test matches outside the RWC
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@Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:
@ploughboy I don't like playing two opensides at all, but I've banged that drum enough.
and then having another one on the bench to provide... something
We're balls deep on the strategy too, because their choices for saturday are swap one openside for another, or play the locks for 80.
@mariner4life The one part of the strategy I'm pretty sure about is the plan to play at speed in the last 20 minutes - so fresh legs, mobile front rowers, two opensides and a mobile lock.
So far, so good. It's what goes before that I'm struggling a bit with.
I guess if we're getting out-muscled we can run Hemopo out on the blindside after halftime and then shift him to lock when Patty T. runs out of gas.
Having been out-muscled across the park in Perth, I'm surprised that we've picked two smaller wings (Bridge and Reece vs Ioane and Smith) - though SBW adds some size to the midfield.
Hemopo into the 23 for Barrett arguably makes us smaller in the forwards - though it's a bit of a long bow to draw.
A lesson I took from 1999 when it turned out that John Hart's secret plan really was just to give the ball to Jonah, was not to believe in dry powder. I suppose after 2015, when it seems Hansen really was keeping some powder dry through the pool games, is that I should have some faith that he knows what he's doing and all will be revealed.
In other straws to clutch - I haven't read any analysis that I've thought really nails his plan, so hopefully Rassie Erasmus is sitting at his computer going, "What the f*ck iz Hansen duuing "!
“Forward, the Light Brigade! Charge for the guns!” he said.
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Would be terrible if Hanson ends such an illustrious career by losing both the Bledisloe and the World Cup.
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Would be terrible if Hanson ends such an illustrious career by losing both the Bledisloe and the World Cup.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel I don't want to even contemplate that happening.I couldn't stand the Aussie gloating and waiting 4 more years for WC redemption.
@Chris said in Bledisloe #2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I don't want to even contemplate that happening.I couldn't stand the Aussie gloating and waiting 4 more years for WC redemption.
Could be more than 4 years. Was 20 years last time.....
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In all seriousness I feel better about this side than last weeks.
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #2:
In all seriousness I feel better about this side than last weeks.
Really? I’d like to hear the reasoning behind this? I mean two of your precious Crusaders forwards have been replaced by Nancy boy North Islanders.
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@ACT-Crusader if they can't get up for this one we are really stuffed
@canefan said in Bledisloe #2:
@ACT-Crusader if they can't get up for this one we are really stuffed
Spark Sport might take a big hit on RWC packages...
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Would be terrible if Hanson ends such an illustrious career by losing both the Bledisloe and the World Cup.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #2:
Would be terrible if Hanson ends such an illustrious career by losing both the Bledisloe and the World Cup.
I read somewhere this morning that Hansen "risks becoming the man who lost all the silverware in one year".
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
A year without the Bledisloe feels like 4 years.
Probably worse down there where the fans are less informed and more bandwagon jumperonerers. It won't be pretty.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
@No-Quarter Yes,it would also be a very Australian move. They have shuffled inside backs in the past like Saturday night fever.
