Bledisloe #2
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.
Whinging
pomsKiwisThe guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
The guy is a decent ref,
He's a decent ref some of the time. Personally, I don't think he's of international standard.
As for the Fern, the most outrage directed towards a Ref I can recall in its long and illustrious history, was against Romain Poitre for his ridiculous red-carding of Bismark Du Plessis ( a bokke, BTW) in 2013
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@pakman more importantly, I don't believe we've won a world cup without someone born overseas in the back 5. Reece it is.
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I’m picking Squire to be the addition to the WC squad - he apparently played well for Ta$man last week. He’s not as good as I’d like, but, he’s better than what else we have.
A big test for Hemopo too - I’d probably leave Fifita and Frizell at home and take Squire and Hemopo plus four locks, Read and Ardie, plus Cane. I assume that Todd is safe, especially if they want to use Cane and Ardie in the big games.
This week is, to me, a shoot out between Bridge and Reece. Personally, I’d take Bridge as he is the best Smith replacement, meaning that we could bench Bender if required (as I can’t see him being left out). Jordie must be the utility, perhaps covering 10 in the pool games (with TJP), so I assume he’s safe too.
I’d only take Ioane, Bender, Bridge, and Jordie as my outsides, so that I could carry an extra forward (BBBR). Personally I think Ioane needs lots of game time to find his groove. We need him at his best. That definitely means no Ioane, so it’s risky - Jordie and TJP (perhaps Crotty) must cover 10. If we lost a first five, we’re buggered.
Btw, still ogling topless girls here in the south, so will look forward to the game thread, including score updates please!
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
The guy is a decent ref,
He's a decent ref some of the time. Personally, I don't think he's of international standard.
As for the Fern, the most outrage directed towards a Ref I can recall in its long and illustrious history, was against Romain Poitre for his ridiculous red-carding of Bismark Du Plessis ( a bokke, BTW) in 2013
@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe #2:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
The guy is a decent ref,
He's a decent ref some of the time. Personally, I don't think he's of international standard.
As for the Fern, the most outrage directed towards a Ref I can recall in its long and illustrious history, was against Romain Poitre for his ridiculous red-carding of Bismark Du Plessis ( a bokke, BTW) in 2013
I see you, and raise you a Wayne Barnes 2007.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
@Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:
Ioane
it was a poor jab aimed that the guys in front of him
A very poor one at that...
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The most recent squad was described as for Bledisloe. So could there be additions for Tonga?
@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:
The most recent squad was described as for Bledisloe. So could there be additions for Tonga?
I’m hearing Brett Cameron and Matt Proctor will play against Tonga.....
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I’m picking Squire to be the addition to the WC squad - he apparently played well for Ta$man last week. He’s not as good as I’d like, but, he’s better than what else we have.
A big test for Hemopo too - I’d probably leave Fifita and Frizell at home and take Squire and Hemopo plus four locks, Read and Ardie, plus Cane. I assume that Todd is safe, especially if they want to use Cane and Ardie in the big games.
This week is, to me, a shoot out between Bridge and Reece. Personally, I’d take Bridge as he is the best Smith replacement, meaning that we could bench Bender if required (as I can’t see him being left out). Jordie must be the utility, perhaps covering 10 in the pool games (with TJP), so I assume he’s safe too.
I’d only take Ioane, Bender, Bridge, and Jordie as my outsides, so that I could carry an extra forward (BBBR). Personally I think Ioane needs lots of game time to find his groove. We need him at his best. That definitely means no Ioane, so it’s risky - Jordie and TJP (perhaps Crotty) must cover 10. If we lost a first five, we’re buggered.
Btw, still ogling topless girls here in the south, so will look forward to the game thread, including score updates please!
@gt12 said in Bledisloe #2:
I’m picking Squire to be the addition to the WC squad - he apparently played well for Ta$man last week. He’s not as good as I’d like, but, he’s better than what else we have.
Hansen will need to convince Squire to make himself available according to this article.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
@Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:
Ioane
it was a poor jab aimed that the guys in front of him
A very poor one at that...
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
@Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:
Ioane
it was a poor jab aimed that the guys in front of him
A very poor one at that...
Easy...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe #2:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
The guy is a decent ref,
He's a decent ref some of the time. Personally, I don't think he's of international standard.
As for the Fern, the most outrage directed towards a Ref I can recall in its long and illustrious history, was against Romain Poitre for his ridiculous red-carding of Bismark Du Plessis ( a bokke, BTW) in 2013
I see you, and raise you a Wayne Barnes 2007.
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@Bovidae I think we're at one other than back up LH.
Agreed that when Karl was let go it was Moli's to lose. But from what I saw on Saturday, not only in scrums, but also in work around field, it's too early for him.
Which means Ofa is a chance, but if not if it were me I'd take Karl, although if it came to that I have a hunch TWM would send for Perry, and that I'd be dead against.
@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae I think we're at one other than back up LH.
Agreed that when Karl was let go it was Moli's to lose. But from what I saw on Saturday, not only in scrums, but also in work around field, it's too early for him.
Which means Ofa is a chance, but if not if it were me I'd take Karl, although if it came to that I have a hunch TWM would send for Perry, and that I'd be dead against.
Karl T big game tonight for Harbour, but limped off with leg injury.
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@Billy-Tell oh well, fuck off then if it is such a problem for you.
You whinge and bitch about players, why cant people express thier views on how the ref went too?
I already said above I felt he had no choice in the RC.
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Billy-Tell oh well, fuck off then if it is such a problem for you.
You whinge and bitch about players, why cant people express thier views on how the ref went too?
I already said above I felt he had no choice in the RC.
It’s no problem for me. Just think it’s lame. Compared to some of the very average NZ refs in recent times, he’s a step up. I have no problem with him reffing us vs SA. If we lose it won’t be because of him.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.
Whinging
pomsKiwisThe guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.
Whinging
pomsKiwisThe guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.
I've been on this forum circa 15 years.
In that time there have been a fair few whinges about reffing calls - mostly from us Saffas and quite often against kiwi refs - yes Bryce Lawrence I do mean you.But generally speaking - and I make the very large exception of a certain Wayne Barnes in a certain 2007 match - I don't think commentary on reffing has ever been at a "pathetic" level on this forum.
Refs are like players. Some have better natural talent than others. Sometimes they have good games and sometimes they have bad games. Sometimes they have a brainfart. What's the point of a rugby forum if we didn't express our opinions on that?
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.
Whinging
pomsKiwisThe guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.
I've been on this forum circa 15 years.
In that time there have been a fair few whinges about reffing calls - mostly from us Saffas and quite often against kiwi refs - yes Bryce Lawrence I do mean you.But generally speaking - and I make the very large exception of a certain Wayne Barnes in a certain 2007 match - I don't think commentary on reffing has ever been at a "pathetic" level on this forum.
Refs are like players. Some have better natural talent than others. Sometimes they have good games and sometimes they have bad games. Sometimes they have a brainfart. What's the point of a rugby forum if we didn't express our opinions on that?
@Billy-Webb I don't think you've seen the Hawt or bbq threads...
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe #2:
@Bovidae they should save Garces for French schoolboy rugby.
Whinging
pomsKiwisThe guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Let's not mention the NZ Herald with their "wasn't a red card" crusade this week, and you can see why Stephen Jones whips himself up into a state of frenzy.
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe #2:
The guy is a decent ref, and the forum is pathetic the way people whine on all the time about him.
Gee don't head over to GAGR tomorrow if the ABs come out on top then if you think the Fern is bad.
The problem with a guy like Garces is he has bottled basic protocol in big internationals twice. Very difficult to enjoy his refereeing when he is prone to just go off script when the pressure goes on. In general I can accept him being on the international panel as a pretty low ranking member - but the bloke shouldn't be near the big tests.
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I have my expectations set pretty low, so will be pleasantly surprised if we retain the Bledisloe with this comedy backline. Seriously, has Fosters fingerprints all over it, feels like they are trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
At least the human statue got replaced in the front row.
Should be an interesting crowd to be part of, I think it might get pretty hostile out there, won't be fun for Aussie.
I feel sorry for the wingers this week. People are talking like they're in a shootout for selection, but how the fck they're supposed to really show what they're capable of outside an experimental 10/15 combo and our 4th midfield combo in 4 weeks is beyond me.
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I feel sorry for the wingers this week. People are talking like they're in a shootout for selection, but how the fck they're supposed to really show what they're capable of outside an experimental 10/15 combo and our 4th midfield combo in 4 weeks is beyond me.
