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NBA season 2019/20

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  • barbarianB barbarian

    @raznomore said in NBA season 2019/20:

    @ACT-Crusader Ingram is looking very much like a franchise player. Ball is coming into his own and the Pelicans look like a solid unit. Capable of a playoff run next season. I think, if his knee holds up, Zion will struggle to find a place in a team trying to play small ball. I honestly think he'll be traded.

    That's a pretty huge call to make given he hasn't played a game yet. The pre-season glimpses indicate he could be a superstar.

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    @barbarian I know its an unfounded call. I don't think he will be a bust but I think he may fit elsewhere better. He could be a great trade piece for the Pelicans to strengthen their bench and possibly get playoff pieces.

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    • raznomoreR raznomore

      @barbarian I know its an unfounded call. I don't think he will be a bust but I think he may fit elsewhere better. He could be a great trade piece for the Pelicans to strengthen their bench and possibly get playoff pieces.

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      @raznomore @barbarian

      No chance they trade Zion. He's a potential superstar and he's on a rookie contract.

      He may very well be a bust, injured for 70% of his career, but there is no way you could or would trade him at this point.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @raznomore said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @mariner4life lots of things are "meh" now. 40 point games, 50 point quarters. Both teams scoring 120+ in a game. Every man and his dog can shoot three-pointers. Big-name players seemingly get and an extra one to two steps before its a travel. Defence optional.

        did you see the one last month where LBJ just walked down the court with teh ball in his hand? it's hilarious.

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        @mariner4life

        Jesus.

        I find it hard to watch the NBA without laughing (until the playoffs), but that takes the cake.

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        • voodooV voodoo

          @raznomore @barbarian

          No chance they trade Zion. He's a potential superstar and he's on a rookie contract.

          He may very well be a bust, injured for 70% of his career, but there is no way you could or would trade him at this point.

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          @voodoo I’m not saying he’ll be gone before this trade deadline I’m saying next season. I would love to me wrong. I’d love to be talking out my ass. I just a have a feeling he’s not right for that teams chances of making the playoffs.

          He’s a man child. Amazing athleticism. Reminds me of a smaller version of the Reign Man, Shawn Kemp. It’ll be interesting see how he fits in on Thursday. I’m hopeful of seeing him dominate.

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          • raznomoreR raznomore

            @voodoo I’m not saying he’ll be gone before this trade deadline I’m saying next season. I would love to me wrong. I’d love to be talking out my ass. I just a have a feeling he’s not right for that teams chances of making the playoffs.

            He’s a man child. Amazing athleticism. Reminds me of a smaller version of the Reign Man, Shawn Kemp. It’ll be interesting see how he fits in on Thursday. I’m hopeful of seeing him dominate.

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            @raznomore yeah, it's just that the trade mechanics don't work. Because you have to match salaries, the fact that he "only" makes $9-13m per year for the next 4 years means that you'd be trading him for pennies on the dollar unless you scored a host of draft picks in return. There aren't too many good assets out there on that salary. Edit - I guess they could always lump in some more assets, I haven't trawled their roster to see what options they have. And to clarify, this restriction is only because they're already above the cap

            In terms of his fit, its really hard to know how he'll go. At the moment you'd say he should probably be surrounded by shooters to give him space to work inside, and the Pelicans shoot the 3 pretty well. They made 21 of em today at 44%, hardly shabby.

            Ingram has certainly had a breakout season though. Will be interesting to see how they gel together.

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              @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

              This is why the NBA season is too long. The Celtics hosed the Lakers today, with both lebron and Davis playing good minutes. That should be big news. But it's basically "meh"

              It was one of the better balanced games by the Celts this season. The Brown, Tatum, Kemba, Haywood quartet worked well.

              I love the NBA and have been following it since I was 5 years old, but for the reason you point out college hoops is way more interesting to me because every game counts. The conference tourneys are awesome and then the tournament into final four is drama filled sport of the highest quality IMO.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:

              @mariner4life

              @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

              This is why the NBA season is too long. The Celtics hosed the Lakers today, with both lebron and Davis playing good minutes. That should be big news. But it's basically "meh"

              It was one of the better balanced games by the Celts this season. The Brown, Tatum, Kemba, Haywood quartet worked well.

              I love the NBA and have been following it since I was 5 years old, but for the reason you point out college hoops is way more interesting to me because every game counts. The conference tourneys are awesome and then the tournament into final four is drama filled sport of the highest quality IMO.

              College hoops was waaaay more interesting today!

              https://twitter.com/i/status/1219803295881007104

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                @ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:

                @mariner4life

                @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                This is why the NBA season is too long. The Celtics hosed the Lakers today, with both lebron and Davis playing good minutes. That should be big news. But it's basically "meh"

                It was one of the better balanced games by the Celts this season. The Brown, Tatum, Kemba, Haywood quartet worked well.

                I love the NBA and have been following it since I was 5 years old, but for the reason you point out college hoops is way more interesting to me because every game counts. The conference tourneys are awesome and then the tournament into final four is drama filled sport of the highest quality IMO.

                College hoops was waaaay more interesting today!

                https://twitter.com/i/status/1219803295881007104

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                @mariner4life crazy. That was garbage time. They were down by plenty and no need to go for that last shot. But the standing over him was too much. Then the same guy grabbed a chair. That'll be him. Allan Iverson almost went to jail for that and they didn't even have it on film. Albeit Iverson allegedly hit someone with the chair.

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                • raznomoreR raznomore

                  @mariner4life crazy. That was garbage time. They were down by plenty and no need to go for that last shot. But the standing over him was too much. Then the same guy grabbed a chair. That'll be him. Allan Iverson almost went to jail for that and they didn't even have it on film. Albeit Iverson allegedly hit someone with the chair.

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                  @raznomore yeah AI got fucked on that. Poor bastard

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:

                    @mariner4life

                    @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                    This is why the NBA season is too long. The Celtics hosed the Lakers today, with both lebron and Davis playing good minutes. That should be big news. But it's basically "meh"

                    It was one of the better balanced games by the Celts this season. The Brown, Tatum, Kemba, Haywood quartet worked well.

                    I love the NBA and have been following it since I was 5 years old, but for the reason you point out college hoops is way more interesting to me because every game counts. The conference tourneys are awesome and then the tournament into final four is drama filled sport of the highest quality IMO.

                    College hoops was waaaay more interesting today!

                    https://twitter.com/i/status/1219803295881007104

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      @raznomore yeah AI got fucked on that. Poor bastard

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                      @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                      @raznomore yeah AI got fucked on that. Poor bastard

                      I’ve never been able to figure out if AI is really “about that life” or that incident forced him into an image he decided to adopt.

                      He seems like nice guy that played gangsta and ended up losing his career because of it.

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                        @voodoo That's what happens in an intra-state rivalry. De Sousa will get another lengthy ban.

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                          De Sousa is gooooooorne for that. The guy who stole the ball and got blocked did nothing, just lay there afterwards. Smart man.

                          Never understood the garbage time rage, just play the game to the whistle. De Sousa got a great block on him anyway, so let that be the "lesson" re: garbage time and leave it. Idiot.

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                          • TeWaioT TeWaio

                            De Sousa is gooooooorne for that. The guy who stole the ball and got blocked did nothing, just lay there afterwards. Smart man.

                            Never understood the garbage time rage, just play the game to the whistle. De Sousa got a great block on him anyway, so let that be the "lesson" re: garbage time and leave it. Idiot.

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                            @TeWaio I've also never got the rage. Certainly wasn't a thing when I played. Must be an "empty stats grabbing" I assume.

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                            • raznomoreR raznomore

                              @mariner4life crazy. That was garbage time. They were down by plenty and no need to go for that last shot. But the standing over him was too much. Then the same guy grabbed a chair. That'll be him. Allan Iverson almost went to jail for that and they didn't even have it on film. Albeit Iverson allegedly hit someone with the chair.

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                              @raznomore said in NBA season 2019/20:

                              @mariner4life crazy. That was garbage time. They were down by plenty and no need to go for that last shot. But the standing over him was too much. Then the same guy grabbed a chair. That'll be him. Allan Iverson almost went to jail for that and they didn't even have it on film. Albeit Iverson allegedly hit someone with the chair.

                              Have you watched the AI doco on netflix. He got fucked.

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                                Kansas forward Silvio De Sousa has been suspended indefinitely for his role in the Jayhawks' brawl with Kansas State on Tuesday night.

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                                  Watching a bit of the 76ers lately, who seem to be doing just fine without Embiid. Simmons has really stepped up, and Horford is clearly relishing the more prominent role.

                                  One of the reasons I love the NBA. Not sure of any other sport where a team could actually improve after losing it's best player. Now it's clearly a short-term thing and they need Embiid to compete in the playoffs, but it's an interesting sub-plot and you have to think if they don't get to the Conference Finals they may think about trading either Simmons or Embiid.

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                                    Watching a bit of the 76ers lately, who seem to be doing just fine without Embiid. Simmons has really stepped up, and Horford is clearly relishing the more prominent role.

                                    One of the reasons I love the NBA. Not sure of any other sport where a team could actually improve after losing it's best player. Now it's clearly a short-term thing and they need Embiid to compete in the playoffs, but it's an interesting sub-plot and you have to think if they don't get to the Conference Finals they may think about trading either Simmons or Embiid.

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                                    @barbarian said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    trading either Simmons or Embiid.

                                    they should do it this year. They can't play both, it actually makes them both worse players. Both have big trade value, they could get the right pieces in and have a real go this year.

                                    Sixers will be a good playoff team because their defense is excellent.

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                                      Box Score Hot Take

                                      Torrey Craig is better than Zion WIlliamson

                                      FACT!

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                                        Box Score Hot Take

                                        Torrey Craig is better than Zion WIlliamson

                                        FACT!

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                                        @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                        Box Score Hot Take

                                        Torrey Craig is better than Zion WIlliamson

                                        FACT!

                                        Zion’s first game, load management means he’s only playing in 4 minute bursts

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                                          @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                          Box Score Hot Take

                                          Torrey Craig is better than Zion WIlliamson

                                          FACT!

                                          Zion’s first game, load management means he’s only playing in 4 minute bursts

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                                          @canefan said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                          @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                          Box Score Hot Take

                                          Torrey Craig is better than Zion WIlliamson

                                          FACT!

                                          Zion’s first game, load management means he’s only playing in 4 minute bursts

                                          if the game thread i just read is to be believed, it's because Zion is too fat to play any more

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