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NBA season 2019/20

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    @ACT-Crusader I cringe though everytime Lonzo throws the lob......very productive for them but man that increases Zions (re) injury chances 10 fold! I just hope he doesn't just keep throwing them up willy nilly.
    What is also amazing is his soft hands around the rim with the put backs and layups.

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    @Nogusta said in NBA season 2019/20:

    @ACT-Crusader I cringe though everytime Lonzo throws the lob......very productive for them but man that increases Zions (re) injury chances 10 fold! I just hope he doesn't just keep throwing them up willy nilly.
    What is also amazing is his soft hands around the rim with the put backs and layups.

    Agree. And given Zions determination and how hard he goes to the basket etc, it is like watching for an injury to happen.

    The Shawn Kemp comparison isn’t a bad one. Kemp was one of if not the quickest big guy in the NBA during that Sonics time.

    One of my top 5 in game dunkers.

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      @Nogusta said in NBA season 2019/20:

      @ACT-Crusader I cringe though everytime Lonzo throws the lob......very productive for them but man that increases Zions (re) injury chances 10 fold! I just hope he doesn't just keep throwing them up willy nilly.
      What is also amazing is his soft hands around the rim with the put backs and layups.

      Agree. And given Zions determination and how hard he goes to the basket etc, it is like watching for an injury to happen.

      The Shawn Kemp comparison isn’t a bad one. Kemp was one of if not the quickest big guy in the NBA during that Sonics time.

      One of my top 5 in game dunkers.

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      @ACT-Crusader the 2 hand double pump reverse dunk in the lane is one of the all time dunks. As was that 1 hand tomahawk windmill he threw down on the break over Lister

      But Kemp never averaged more than 20ppg and wasn't a creator in any way. Zion is an infinitely better basketball player than Kemp ever was.

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        @ACT-Crusader the 2 hand double pump reverse dunk in the lane is one of the all time dunks. As was that 1 hand tomahawk windmill he threw down on the break over Lister

        But Kemp never averaged more than 20ppg and wasn't a creator in any way. Zion is an infinitely better basketball player than Kemp ever was.

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        @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @ACT-Crusader the 2 hand double pump reverse dunk in the lane is one of the all time dunks. As was that 1 hand tomahawk windmill he threw down on the break over Lister

        But Kemp never averaged more than 20ppg and wasn't a creator in any way. Zion is an infinitely better basketball player than Kemp ever was.

        Kemp was in a damn good Seattle side and when you’re only getting 12-13 shots a game, you’re not going to average more than 20ppg. GP, Schrempf, Ellis, Eddie Johnson, all got their shots. And that was in a time when teams weren’t putting up the sort of field goal attempts we see today.

        I agree the all round game of Zion is better, but the way both attack the rim and the soft hands and finesse for big guys is something both have and at a high level.

        Kemp wasn’t shooting 3s in high school or at college (like Zion) and probably was never coached to or had that freedom that has been a feature of the bball landscape over the last 5-10 years at all levels.

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          @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

          @ACT-Crusader the 2 hand double pump reverse dunk in the lane is one of the all time dunks. As was that 1 hand tomahawk windmill he threw down on the break over Lister

          But Kemp never averaged more than 20ppg and wasn't a creator in any way. Zion is an infinitely better basketball player than Kemp ever was.

          Kemp was in a damn good Seattle side and when you’re only getting 12-13 shots a game, you’re not going to average more than 20ppg. GP, Schrempf, Ellis, Eddie Johnson, all got their shots. And that was in a time when teams weren’t putting up the sort of field goal attempts we see today.

          I agree the all round game of Zion is better, but the way both attack the rim and the soft hands and finesse for big guys is something both have and at a high level.

          Kemp wasn’t shooting 3s in high school or at college (like Zion) and probably was never coached to or had that freedom that has been a feature of the bball landscape over the last 5-10 years at all levels.

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          @ACT-Crusader Yeah, the stats are all skewed these days with the pace of the game and number of shots. Your last para is super relevant when you think about every single quality shooter of the last 30yrs - guys like Isaiah, Dumars, Ray Allen, Bird, West, MJ (obviously), even guys like Drexler, McGrady, Kobe. The acknowledgement and practice of the 3 ball has changed the game.

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            @ACT-Crusader Yeah, the stats are all skewed these days with the pace of the game and number of shots. Your last para is super relevant when you think about every single quality shooter of the last 30yrs - guys like Isaiah, Dumars, Ray Allen, Bird, West, MJ (obviously), even guys like Drexler, McGrady, Kobe. The acknowledgement and practice of the 3 ball has changed the game.

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            @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

            @ACT-Crusader Yeah, the stats are all skewed these days with the pace of the game and number of shots. Your last para is super relevant when you think about every single quality shooter of the last 30yrs - guys like Isaiah, Dumars, Ray Allen, Bird, West, MJ (obviously), even guys like Drexler, McGrady, Kobe. The acknowledgement and practice of the 3 ball has changed the game.

            And no hand checking has made it easier to score

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              Mmm, I hear that a lot, but I'm not sure. Go back to the GSW win over Cleveland where Iggy got MVP, and watch the hands on LeBron from Iggy and Draymond. Sure the handcheck rule might have changed, but there is still plenty of reaching and holding allowed in the playoffs.

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                Mmm, I hear that a lot, but I'm not sure. Go back to the GSW win over Cleveland where Iggy got MVP, and watch the hands on LeBron from Iggy and Draymond. Sure the handcheck rule might have changed, but there is still plenty of reaching and holding allowed in the playoffs.

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                @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                Mmm, I hear that a lot, but I'm not sure. Go back to the GSW win over Cleveland where Iggy got MVP, and watch the hands on LeBron from Iggy and Draymond. Sure the handcheck rule might have changed, but there is still plenty of reaching and holding allowed in the playoffs.

                Yep. Playoff NBA is like a different game. A couple of years ago some diehard did an analysis of the difference in officiating around ‘physicality’ defence and it shows a far more leniency to hand and body checking.

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                  Who you got for the 3pt shootout? Here’s the list.

                  Duncan Robinson has the effortless shot that is Klay-like. Buddy shoots with minimal elevation/jump and that’s good for a comp like this.

                  If it was for distance, Dame and Trey would be the hands down final.

                  The bright lights and hype surrounding the contest can definitely get to some as well.

                  I’ll be cheering for Buddy.

                  Damian Lillard
                  Buddy Hield
                  Trae Young
                  Joe Harris
                  Duncan Robinson
                  Zach LaVine
                  Devonte' Graham
                  Davis Bertans

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                    Lots of trades today. The curious one is GSW trading Russell to Minny in exchange for Andrew Wiggins. Wiggins has not realised his potential, GS must think they can help get him there.

                    Marcus Morris and Isiah Thomas traded to the Clippers

                    Andrew Iguodala traded to the Heat

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                      Adams stays in OKC as there were stories he could be moved. Atlanta was mentioned as one team but they got Capela.

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                        Adams stays in OKC as there were stories he could be moved. Atlanta was mentioned as one team but they got Capela.

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                        @Bovidae said in NBA season 2019/20:

                        Adams stays in OKC as there were stories he could be moved. Atlanta was mentioned as one team but they got Capela.

                        By accounts he likes it in OKC, and OKC are good this year so great for him

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                          @Bovidae said in NBA season 2019/20:

                          Adams stays in OKC as there were stories he could be moved. Atlanta was mentioned as one team but they got Capela.

                          By accounts he likes it in OKC, and OKC are good this year so great for him

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                          @canefan Adams has had injuries but he hasn't been as productive as expected. His huge contract would have put off teams from trading for him.

                          As you say, good for him as the Hawks are shit.

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                            I've heard whispers that Adams is not a long term NBA player. His body is starting to pack up and it's not just the injuries they are reporting. Hopefully not true.

                            Clippers and Heat are now as deep as teams can get. I can not remember the last time the top half of the East was as strong as it is now.

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                              Giannis just put together possibly the worst all star team of all time. Lebron's team is so stacked in comparison.

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                                Giannis just put together possibly the worst all star team of all time. Lebron's team is so stacked in comparison.

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                                @Dice men against boys. A few of the ESPN pundits suggested a USA vs International team, I reckon it would be good fun

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                                  Lebrons team is one of the best-assembled teams in the history of the game. That's an "any era" team.

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                                    Giannis is free to pick his players of course. But if LBJ picks Davis, how the hell do you pass on Kawhai with your first pick? Or Luka?

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                                      Given the new format of the game, I actually like the Greek Freak’s team.

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                                        Given the new format of the game, I actually like the Greek Freak’s team.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader on that. I hate the new format but I agree. They’ll shoot the lights out and the final 1/4 will be over in 5 minutes.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader on that. I hate the new format but I agree. They’ll shoot the lights out and the final 1/4 will be over in 5 minutes.

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                                          @raznomore said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                          @ACT-Crusader on that. I hate the new format but I agree. They’ll shoot the lights out and the final 1/4 will be over in 5 minutes.

                                          Every quarter counts! I like that. And seeing the kids faces when they found out that they are the charity being supported by the two teams will be motivation enough.

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