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NBA season 2019/20

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

    There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

    Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

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    @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

    but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

    There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

    Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

    Least they got something for him, Toronto got zero for him , in fact you could argue that OKC got the trade value for Kawhai and George.
    Yet Toronto are still thriving.

    Pop is a fluffybunny

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      @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

      but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

      There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

      Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

      Least they got something for him, Toronto got zero for him , in fact you could argue that OKC got the trade value for Kawhai and George.
      Yet Toronto are still thriving.

      Pop is a fluffybunny

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      @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NBA season 2019/20:

      @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

      but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

      There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

      Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

      Least they got something for him, Toronto got zero for him

      I think Toronto are more than happy with what they got in return for having Kawhai for a year

      Screenshot_20200212-125109_Chrome.jpg

      They went into it with their eyes open and got the big prize. Ujiri has done a great job keeping them right up there though

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      • canefanC canefan

        @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

        but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

        There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

        Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

        Least they got something for him, Toronto got zero for him

        I think Toronto are more than happy with what they got in return for having Kawhai for a year

        Screenshot_20200212-125109_Chrome.jpg

        They went into it with their eyes open and got the big prize. Ujiri has done a great job keeping them right up there though

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        @canefan said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NBA season 2019/20:

        @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

        but yeah, that's the guy you build the team around, and he left. And we got fuck all in return.

        There isn't any top level talent there at the moment. A couple of maybe guys, but at the "top" end LMA is 34, and everyone knows what DD is. The team needs a pretty hard reset. Not sure the Spurs will go the tank route though.

        Pops a legend, but is old as fuck, and does he have the energy to build it all up again? Because the Spurs are a mile off.

        Least they got something for him, Toronto got zero for him

        I think Toronto are more than happy with what they got in return for having Kawhai for a year

        Screenshot_20200212-125109_Chrome.jpg

        They went into it with their eyes open and got the big prize. Ujiri has done a great job keeping them right up there though

        Almost everyone else from that champion roster stayed and got better. They are flying

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          Sixers beat the Clippers in a very high quality game in Philly. Simmons with a triple double, Kawhi had 30.

          You get the feeling if the Sixers can put it all together they could win the East. They've been mediocre thus far, but as this game showed their best is still very good indeed. Embiid stepped up, as did Richardson.

          They equally could flame out and trade one of Embiid or Simmons before the start of next season.

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            Sixers beat the Clippers in a very high quality game in Philly. Simmons with a triple double, Kawhi had 30.

            You get the feeling if the Sixers can put it all together they could win the East. They've been mediocre thus far, but as this game showed their best is still very good indeed. Embiid stepped up, as did Richardson.

            They equally could flame out and trade one of Embiid or Simmons before the start of next season.

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            @barbarian said in NBA season 2019/20:

            Sixers beat the Clippers in a very high quality game in Philly. Simmons with a triple double, Kawhi had 30.

            You get the feeling if the Sixers can put it all together they could win the East. They've been mediocre thus far, but as this game showed their best is still very good indeed. Embiid stepped up, as did Richardson.

            They equally could flame out and trade one of Embiid or Simmons before the start of next season.

            They are the soap opera of the East right now

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            • canefanC canefan

              @barbarian said in NBA season 2019/20:

              Sixers beat the Clippers in a very high quality game in Philly. Simmons with a triple double, Kawhi had 30.

              You get the feeling if the Sixers can put it all together they could win the East. They've been mediocre thus far, but as this game showed their best is still very good indeed. Embiid stepped up, as did Richardson.

              They equally could flame out and trade one of Embiid or Simmons before the start of next season.

              They are the soap opera of the East right now

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              @canefan said in NBA season 2019/20:

              They are the soap opera of the East right now

              They are the Nick Cage of the East. At their best they are Oscar worthy, but at their worst... may God have mercy on their soul.

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                @canefan said in NBA season 2019/20:

                They are the soap opera of the East right now

                They are the Nick Cage of the East. At their best they are Oscar worthy, but at their worst... may God have mercy on their soul.

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                @barbarian said in NBA season 2019/20:

                @canefan said in NBA season 2019/20:

                They are the soap opera of the East right now

                They are the Nick Cage of the East. At their best they are Oscar worthy, but at their worst... may God have mercy on their soul.

                If they lose in anything other than the conference finals Brown will be fired. Even that might not save him, although to be fair titles are not won in February so he'll be judged on the playoffs. Then they will allow a new guy a chance to get Joel and Ben playing well together before the last resort of trading one of them

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                  I hate Simmons with a passion.

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                    I hate Simmons with a passion.

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                    @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                    I hate Simmons with a passion.

                    The guy is a pro-basketballer. Why can't he shoot?

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                      https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28672481/miami-made-jimmy-butler-gamble-chicago-never-could

                      A great feature on one-time locker room "cancer" Jimmy Butler

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                        Zion dropped 31/9/5 On Portland in 28 minutes of court time

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Zion dropped 31/9/5 On Portland in 28 minutes of court time

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                          @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                          Zion dropped 31/9/5 On Portland in 28 minutes of court time

                          He is a model of efficiency. Amazing

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                            Zion dropped 31/9/5 On Portland in 28 minutes of court time

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                            @mariner4life if he keeps making 11-14 FT's he is going to be a beast offensively.

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                              @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                              Then they idiotically thought they were getting a franchise player for a franchise player. Dumb.

                              That's not how it went. Kawhi and the Spurs broke down totally. You can argue about what went on with the injury, but we will never really know. Did the Spurs not believe him or did Kawhi act like a petulant prick?

                              Who knows.

                              But the Spurs made the very best move they could. They wait a year and they get a zero return. They trade him when they did, they at least get something back. Of course Derozan isn't Kawhi, they knew that. But when Kawhi only has 1 year under contract, he's not that valuable as a trade piece.

                              Toronto took a punt and it came off with a title (so many things could have derailed this!), but of course they then lost him as expected after a year.

                              Nothing more the Spurs could have done in the trade market.

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                              @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                              @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                              Then they idiotically thought they were getting a franchise player for a franchise player. Dumb.

                              That's not how it went. Kawhi and the Spurs broke down totally. You can argue about what went on with the injury, but we will never really know. Did the Spurs not believe him or did Kawhi act like a petulant prick?

                              Who knows.

                              But the Spurs made the very best move they could. They wait a year and they get a zero return. They trade him when they did, they at least get something back. Of course Derozan isn't Kawhi, they knew that. But when Kawhi only has 1 year under contract, he's not that valuable as a trade piece.

                              Toronto took a punt and it came off with a title (so many things could have derailed this!), but of course they then lost him as expected after a year.

                              Nothing more the Spurs could have done in the trade market.

                              Yeah i don't know if it was that obvious at that time that Kawhi was so much better than Derozan. Kawhi elevated himself to one of the very best players (top 3 probably) in the league when with the Raptors, but wasn't in that ecehelon when with the Spurs. Meanwhile Derozan was the man for the Raptors and I think the Spurs hoped he'd have the same impact for them. He hasn't.

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                                @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                Then they idiotically thought they were getting a franchise player for a franchise player. Dumb.

                                That's not how it went. Kawhi and the Spurs broke down totally. You can argue about what went on with the injury, but we will never really know. Did the Spurs not believe him or did Kawhi act like a petulant prick?

                                Who knows.

                                But the Spurs made the very best move they could. They wait a year and they get a zero return. They trade him when they did, they at least get something back. Of course Derozan isn't Kawhi, they knew that. But when Kawhi only has 1 year under contract, he's not that valuable as a trade piece.

                                Toronto took a punt and it came off with a title (so many things could have derailed this!), but of course they then lost him as expected after a year.

                                Nothing more the Spurs could have done in the trade market.

                                Yeah i don't know if it was that obvious at that time that Kawhi was so much better than Derozan. Kawhi elevated himself to one of the very best players (top 3 probably) in the league when with the Raptors, but wasn't in that ecehelon when with the Spurs. Meanwhile Derozan was the man for the Raptors and I think the Spurs hoped he'd have the same impact for them. He hasn't.

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                                @shark it was obvious. Kawhai was a finals MVP. De Rosan was a choker

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                                  fucken Spurs

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                                    @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    Then they idiotically thought they were getting a franchise player for a franchise player. Dumb.

                                    That's not how it went. Kawhi and the Spurs broke down totally. You can argue about what went on with the injury, but we will never really know. Did the Spurs not believe him or did Kawhi act like a petulant prick?

                                    Who knows.

                                    But the Spurs made the very best move they could. They wait a year and they get a zero return. They trade him when they did, they at least get something back. Of course Derozan isn't Kawhi, they knew that. But when Kawhi only has 1 year under contract, he's not that valuable as a trade piece.

                                    Toronto took a punt and it came off with a title (so many things could have derailed this!), but of course they then lost him as expected after a year.

                                    Nothing more the Spurs could have done in the trade market.

                                    Yeah i don't know if it was that obvious at that time that Kawhi was so much better than Derozan. Kawhi elevated himself to one of the very best players (top 3 probably) in the league when with the Raptors, but wasn't in that ecehelon when with the Spurs. Meanwhile Derozan was the man for the Raptors and I think the Spurs hoped he'd have the same impact for them. He hasn't.

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                                    @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    @voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    @shark said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    Then they idiotically thought they were getting a franchise player for a franchise player. Dumb.

                                    That's not how it went. Kawhi and the Spurs broke down totally. You can argue about what went on with the injury, but we will never really know. Did the Spurs not believe him or did Kawhi act like a petulant prick?

                                    Who knows.

                                    But the Spurs made the very best move they could. They wait a year and they get a zero return. They trade him when they did, they at least get something back. Of course Derozan isn't Kawhi, they knew that. But when Kawhi only has 1 year under contract, he's not that valuable as a trade piece.

                                    Toronto took a punt and it came off with a title (so many things could have derailed this!), but of course they then lost him as expected after a year.

                                    Nothing more the Spurs could have done in the trade market.

                                    Yeah i don't know if it was that obvious at that time that Kawhi was so much better than Derozan. Kawhi elevated himself to one of the very best players (top 3 probably) in the league when with the Raptors, but wasn't in that ecehelon when with the Spurs. Meanwhile Derozan was the man for the Raptors and I think the Spurs hoped he'd have the same impact for them. He hasn't.

                                    Are you willfully making shit takes?

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                                    • raznomoreR raznomore

                                      fucken Spurs

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                                      @raznomore said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                      fucken Spurs

                                      We treadmilling hard out

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                                        Ok ok, I'm biased as I don't like Kawhi Leonard. The Spurs have always been there or there-abouts as my second team. I'm disappointed with how they've gone since the trade. It guts me that when I bought a Spurs jersey recently I had to settle for one with Derozan on it. So for me, it was a shit trade.

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                                          Spurs beat the Thunder today though at least.

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