NBA season 2019/20
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@KiwiMurph said in NBA season 2019/20:
2 more good The Last Dance episodes tonight.
That 92 Dream Team was something else.
Agree.
A little more detail of the Kukoc 92 Olympics stuff. The golf games in the lead up to the 98 playoffs. Rodman not wanting to play golf but go to Hooters...
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And loved it when they started playing Naughty by Nature
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That was awesome. Falling in love with the guy all over again.
How many episodes total did they do?
I don't get why they say this doco could change the way we think about MJ?? If anything it makes me even more fond of him
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I'm planning to watch today, but it sounds like I'm in for 2 more episodes of historical stuff with minimal footage of the 97-98 season. Dream Team? MJ and Scottie beating up on Kukoc? Golf and hooters???
Fuck me, the last episodes better show some damn basketball with some genuine footage.
As to the way MJ IS portrayed in this, it sounds like he and the Bulls had to ok the final footage being aired, and also get paid for it - that's why it took so long to come out, and probably also explains why there is nothing too revealing or nasty in the MJ-specific stuff.
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I'm planning to watch today, but it sounds like I'm in for 2 more episodes of historical stuff with minimal footage of the 97-98 season. Dream Team? MJ and Scottie beating up on Kukoc? Golf and hooters???
Fuck me, the last episodes better show some damn basketball with some genuine footage.
As to the way MJ IS portrayed in this, it sounds like he and the Bulls had to ok the final footage being aired, and also get paid for it - that's why it took so long to come out, and probably also explains why there is nothing too revealing or nasty in the MJ-specific stuff.
@voodoo quite a bit of ball in the two episodes in amongst the drama.
The Knicks series was one of the best.
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@voodoo quite a bit of ball in the two episodes in amongst the drama.
The Knicks series was one of the best.
@ACT-Crusader I still haven't watched cos the kid is too busy, killing me!
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@ACT-Crusader I still haven't watched cos the kid is too busy, killing me!
@voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:
@ACT-Crusader I still haven't watched cos the kid is too busy, killing me!
Priorities bro....
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@ACT-Crusader I still haven't watched cos the kid is too busy, killing me!
@voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:
@ACT-Crusader I still haven't watched cos the kid is too busy, killing me!
That means you will be able to binge watch when the time is right anyway
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@voodoo quite a bit of ball in the two episodes in amongst the drama.
The Knicks series was one of the best.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:
@voodoo quite a bit of ball in the two episodes in amongst the drama.
The Knicks series was one of the best.
That was possibly their best title. The Knicks series was tough. Coming back from down 0-2 and with all that MJ / AC buzz going on, was impressive. MJ clearly wasn't as motivated as past years, until spurred on first by that controversy, and then wanting to show Chuck who the boss was in the Finals which was another great series (and it pained me to watch it last night).
The biggest thing I'll take away about MJs' personality from this, is his supreme confidence in his ability, outward arrogance and his sometimes immature and demeaning jokes. You almost get the impression he expected to be able to say whatever he liked, however he liked, to whomever he liked and for it to be believed, praised and if he intended it to be a joke, laughed at even if it just wasn't funny. That bit where he's having a beer after the game and banging on about the old school days when guys would drink beers and smoke cigarettes at halftime, was said almost as if he believed that actually happened, and said as if he was a 50 year old talking about workplace behaviour when he was 20. But it would have only been 9 years prior, max, and noone thought it was legit, or funny.
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@ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:
@voodoo quite a bit of ball in the two episodes in amongst the drama.
The Knicks series was one of the best.
That was possibly their best title. The Knicks series was tough. Coming back from down 0-2 and with all that MJ / AC buzz going on, was impressive. MJ clearly wasn't as motivated as past years, until spurred on first by that controversy, and then wanting to show Chuck who the boss was in the Finals which was another great series (and it pained me to watch it last night).
The biggest thing I'll take away about MJs' personality from this, is his supreme confidence in his ability, outward arrogance and his sometimes immature and demeaning jokes. You almost get the impression he expected to be able to say whatever he liked, however he liked, to whomever he liked and for it to be believed, praised and if he intended it to be a joke, laughed at even if it just wasn't funny. That bit where he's having a beer after the game and banging on about the old school days when guys would drink beers and smoke cigarettes at halftime, was said almost as if he believed that actually happened, and said as if he was a 50 year old talking about workplace behaviour when he was 20. But it would have only been 9 years prior, max, and noone thought it was legit, or funny.
@shark that was pretty funny viewing, he was laughing his ass off, and no one laughed with him really. Just smiles like "yeah Mike"
What i am loving most is the way he would find soeone in the opposition, create a reason to hate him, and then proceed to demean him, publicly, with his game.
"oh, Drexler is as good as me? I'll fucking show you" "oh, Kraus thinks this guys is good? I'll fucking show you" and then he would target the bloke, and murder him.
Supremely arrogant, pathologically competitive, and the talent to back it all up. That's what it takes to be the best. Those things and an enormous, almost pathological work ethic.
I mean, look at Barkley? My son laughed when he said he never thought there was anyone who was better at basketball than him, but that's the mentality you need. And it's only a problem when you run in to someone better.
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Yeah that confidence, to be able to pick someone out and just destroy them on the court. Almost breathtaking, and inevitible. It's a pity he had two reasons to hate on the Suns in '93 with Barkley having won the MVP and Krause having a chubby for Thunder Dan. However, at least that series in terms of competitiveness was portrayed fairly. I'm not sure that Jordan exactly destroyed Dan Majerle.
I felt sorry for Clyde the Glide in that he was made to look incompetent in the footage of their series, and if it weren't for a fleeting scene where they showed the Blazers won two games in that series, you'd swear they'd been swept. I don't know what Drexlers' stats were like.
Majerle wasn't made to look as bad, and probably just as well because he did hit 17 threes at .436 and averaged 17.2 pts for the series. Jordan owned him on offence with an average of 41, but it's not like he shut Majerle down as his series stats were better than his regular season stats (3P % below .400 and pts ave 16.9).
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Yeah that confidence, to be able to pick someone out and just destroy them on the court. Almost breathtaking, and inevitible. It's a pity he had two reasons to hate on the Suns in '93 with Barkley having won the MVP and Krause having a chubby for Thunder Dan. However, at least that series in terms of competitiveness was portrayed fairly. I'm not sure that Jordan exactly destroyed Dan Majerle.
I felt sorry for Clyde the Glide in that he was made to look incompetent in the footage of their series, and if it weren't for a fleeting scene where they showed the Blazers won two games in that series, you'd swear they'd been swept. I don't know what Drexlers' stats were like.
Majerle wasn't made to look as bad, and probably just as well because he did hit 17 threes at .436 and averaged 17.2 pts for the series. Jordan owned him on offence with an average of 41, but it's not like he shut Majerle down as his series stats were better than his regular season stats (3P % below .400 and pts ave 16.9).
@shark @mariner4life it’s an insight into MJ’s mentality that is making this so good.
It’s fair to say that MJ knew after his freshman year at NC that he had athleticism and talent that was special. Talent alone will get you places and open up many doors, but the motivation to keep working is sometimes right in front of you or it has to be manufactured in some way.
The desire to get past the Pistons and win a championship got him the first.
But then two and three he had to continually come up with ways.
On Clyde, he had an excellent finals series averaging 25, 8 and 5. He just wasn’t MJ. Comparing the teams, Portland were deeper and had more options. That depth really came to the fore in game 2. But again they didn’t have MJ.
Clyde had major hops. The story goes that he could touch the top of the backboard and dunk 11 and half feet rings.
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@shark @mariner4life it’s an insight into MJ’s mentality that is making this so good.
It’s fair to say that MJ knew after his freshman year at NC that he had athleticism and talent that was special. Talent alone will get you places and open up many doors, but the motivation to keep working is sometimes right in front of you or it has to be manufactured in some way.
The desire to get past the Pistons and win a championship got him the first.
But then two and three he had to continually come up with ways.
On Clyde, he had an excellent finals series averaging 25, 8 and 5. He just wasn’t MJ. Comparing the teams, Portland were deeper and had more options. That depth really came to the fore in game 2. But again they didn’t have MJ.
Clyde had major hops. The story goes that he could touch the top of the backboard and dunk 11 and half feet rings.
@ACT-Crusader they reckon Nique could place a dime on top of the backboard.
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@shark that was pretty funny viewing, he was laughing his ass off, and no one laughed with him really. Just smiles like "yeah Mike"
What i am loving most is the way he would find soeone in the opposition, create a reason to hate him, and then proceed to demean him, publicly, with his game.
"oh, Drexler is as good as me? I'll fucking show you" "oh, Kraus thinks this guys is good? I'll fucking show you" and then he would target the bloke, and murder him.
Supremely arrogant, pathologically competitive, and the talent to back it all up. That's what it takes to be the best. Those things and an enormous, almost pathological work ethic.
I mean, look at Barkley? My son laughed when he said he never thought there was anyone who was better at basketball than him, but that's the mentality you need. And it's only a problem when you run in to someone better.
@mariner4life Barkley was an unbelievable player. Shot too many 3's probably (ahead of his time!), but am unstoppable force nonetheless. So athletic, so quick on the break, amazing rebounder. And yep, that unshakable self belief to make all of that work for him
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@mariner4life Barkley was an unbelievable player. Shot too many 3's probably (ahead of his time!), but am unstoppable force nonetheless. So athletic, so quick on the break, amazing rebounder. And yep, that unshakable self belief to make all of that work for him
@voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:
@mariner4life Barkley was an unbelievable player. Shot too many 3's probably (ahead of his time!), but am unstoppable force nonetheless. So athletic, so quick on the break, amazing rebounder. And yep, that unshakable self belief to make all of that work for him
And as a small power forward too.
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@voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:
@mariner4life Barkley was an unbelievable player. Shot too many 3's probably (ahead of his time!), but am unstoppable force nonetheless. So athletic, so quick on the break, amazing rebounder. And yep, that unshakable self belief to make all of that work for him
And as a small power forward too.
@shark said in NBA season 2019/20:
@voodoo said in NBA season 2019/20:
@mariner4life Barkley was an unbelievable player. Shot too many 3's probably (ahead of his time!), but am unstoppable force nonetheless. So athletic, so quick on the break, amazing rebounder. And yep, that unshakable self belief to make all of that work for him
And as a small power forward too.
With a massive wingspan and fat backside that helped no end on the glass!
podcast.
