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NBA season 2019/20

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    The episodes just fly by.

    Amazing that 10 years after coaching Michael Jordan for the minor league Birmingham Barons - Terry Francona would coach the Boston Red Sox to their first World Series title since 1918!

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      Is there only two to go?? How good is this series? So much I didn't know (and don't try to know either to be fair)

      That Pippen benching himself was awful.

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        Is there only two to go?? How good is this series? So much I didn't know (and don't try to know either to be fair)

        That Pippen benching himself was awful.

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        @Hooroo Jeez, after watching one of the latest episodes last night you wouldn't want to ever be out of form on a team with MJ in it. Didn't realise he was so intense, I guess his relentless and ruthless pursuit of excellence is what made him and the Bulls so great during that period.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Hooroo Jeez, after watching one of the latest episodes last night you wouldn't want to ever be out of form on a team with MJ in it. Didn't realise he was so intense, I guess his relentless and ruthless pursuit of excellence is what made him and the Bulls so great during that period.

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          @Canes4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

          @Hooroo Jeez, after watching one of the latest episodes last night you wouldn't want to ever be out of form on a team with MJ in it. Didn't realise he was so intense.

          If this doesn't teach any wannabe sports pros then nothing will. The dedication to be the best means you have to train the best. That everygame is to be played as if it is his last mentality.

          I love it.

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            I watched with my daughter, her boyfriend, and my son. All 3 thought MJ was too hard on his teammates and my daughter suggested that MJ should have been fired for his behaviour...She is not into sports and never has been.

            I took my son aside and said sometimes you have to be the bad guy.

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              Not here to be the spoiler just in case @voodoo hasn’t found the remote 😎, but I thought the Gary Payton part was pretty funny

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                Not here to be the spoiler just in case @voodoo hasn’t found the remote 😎, but I thought the Gary Payton part was pretty funny

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                @ACT-Crusader said in NBA season 2019/20:

                Not here to be the spoiler just in case @voodoo hasn’t found the remote 😎, but I thought the Gary Payton part was pretty funny

                Ha, thanks for thinking of me! I've seen, and agree, that was hilarious!

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                  I haven't seen it yet but Payton has always been one to speak his mind. He doesn't pull any punches when speaking about Howard Schultz selling the Sonics, either.

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                  • ToddyT Toddy

                    I've never really followed the NBA closely but always heard rumours about Jordan being a complete arsehole. So far in The Last Dance I don't think he's come across too bad at all.

                    Any of you fullas that follow closely have an opinion on what The Last Dance is showing and if it's a true reflection of Jordan?

                    Also, was Pippen really considered the number 2 player in the NBA?

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                    @Toddy said in NBA season 2019/20:

                    I've never really followed the NBA closely but always heard rumours about Jordan being a complete arsehole. So far in The Last Dance I don't think he's come across too bad at all.

                    Any of you fullas that follow closely have an opinion on what The Last Dance is showing and if it's a true reflection of Jordan?

                    Also, was Pippen really considered the number 2 player in the NBA?

                    Agree with the others. Whoever said in this series that Pippen was the #2 player in the league was clearly on the glass BBQ.

                    Throughout the majority of the 90s, in no particular order after #1, the guys ahead of him would have been, but not neccessarily limited to:

                    MJ
                    Barkley
                    Robinson
                    K Malone
                    Stockton
                    Ewing
                    Miller
                    Drexler
                    Olajuwon
                    O'Neal

                    Based on that list for a start he was barely top ten at times.

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                    • sharkS shark

                      @Toddy said in NBA season 2019/20:

                      I've never really followed the NBA closely but always heard rumours about Jordan being a complete arsehole. So far in The Last Dance I don't think he's come across too bad at all.

                      Any of you fullas that follow closely have an opinion on what The Last Dance is showing and if it's a true reflection of Jordan?

                      Also, was Pippen really considered the number 2 player in the NBA?

                      Agree with the others. Whoever said in this series that Pippen was the #2 player in the league was clearly on the glass BBQ.

                      Throughout the majority of the 90s, in no particular order after #1, the guys ahead of him would have been, but not neccessarily limited to:

                      MJ
                      Barkley
                      Robinson
                      K Malone
                      Stockton
                      Ewing
                      Miller
                      Drexler
                      Olajuwon
                      O'Neal

                      Based on that list for a start he was barely top ten at times.

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                      @shark if he's really the #2 player int he league, then the Bulls are a genuine title threat without MJ. They absolutely were not.

                      2 great episodes. And only 2 left for 2 great series? I am going to feel a little cheated.

                      First time you had people from teh Bulls outwardly saying he was an asshole. and then comes the "but..."

                      I love MJ even more now than i did before.

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                        also, i thought some of the footage of the MJ-less Bulls showed where Kerr learned his playing philosophy, that ball movement looked like the Warriors. It's just at the end of it wasn't a 3.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @shark if he's really the #2 player int he league, then the Bulls are a genuine title threat without MJ. They absolutely were not.

                          2 great episodes. And only 2 left for 2 great series? I am going to feel a little cheated.

                          First time you had people from teh Bulls outwardly saying he was an asshole. and then comes the "but..."

                          I love MJ even more now than i did before.

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                          @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                          @shark if he's really the #2 player int he league, then the Bulls are a genuine title threat without MJ. They absolutely were not.

                          I love MJ even more now than i did before.

                          Same here! I makes me understand why he was so good.

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                            I haven't watched the series but I hope they give credit to Tex Winter who was the architect of the triangle offence.

                            Pippen wasn't even the go-to guy when he moved to Houston and Portland.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              I haven't watched the series but I hope they give credit to Tex Winter who was the architect of the triangle offence.

                              Pippen wasn't even the go-to guy when he moved to Houston and Portland.

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                              @Bovidae Tex certainly gets mentioned.

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                                I chuckled when they got to the Sonics series and it was labelled the biggest mismatch in NBA Finals history. Somehow they burgled two games after going 0-3 but then the Bulls finished them off.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  I haven't watched the series but I hope they give credit to Tex Winter who was the architect of the triangle offence.

                                  Pippen wasn't even the go-to guy when he moved to Houston and Portland.

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                                  @Bovidae said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                  I haven't watched the series but I hope they give credit to Tex Winter who was the architect of the triangle offence.

                                  Pippen wasn't even the go-to guy when he moved to Houston and Portland.

                                  Tex gets credit early in the series when there was the whole Doug Collins and Phil Jackson stuff.

                                  On Pip, that Blazers side he was a part of was somewhat of an enigma. A very deep team with a lot of very good players - Smitty, Pip, Sheed, Sabonis, Brian Grant, Stoudamire, Detlef, the Plastic Man, Greg Anthony.

                                  That game 7 against the Lakers In the WCF was a classic where they IMO choked and I guess history tells the story that the franchise never really recovered for over a decade and a half.

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                                    also, i thought some of the footage of the MJ-less Bulls showed where Kerr learned his playing philosophy, that ball movement looked like the Warriors. It's just at the end of it wasn't a 3.

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                                    @mariner4life said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                    also, i thought some of the footage of the MJ-less Bulls showed where Kerr learned his playing philosophy, that ball movement looked like the Warriors. It's just at the end of it wasn't a 3.

                                    Definitely. Kerr has said he took a lot from Phil when he made the transition to coaching. And then he’s also taken for Pop and the passing game he had

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                                    • ToddyT Toddy

                                      I've never really followed the NBA closely but always heard rumours about Jordan being a complete arsehole. So far in The Last Dance I don't think he's come across too bad at all.

                                      Any of you fullas that follow closely have an opinion on what The Last Dance is showing and if it's a true reflection of Jordan?

                                      Also, was Pippen really considered the number 2 player in the NBA?

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                                      @Toddy said in NBA season 2019/20:

                                      I've never really followed the NBA closely but always heard rumours about Jordan being a complete arsehole. So far in The Last Dance I don't think he's come across too bad at all.

                                      Any of you fullas that follow closely have an opinion on what The Last Dance is showing and if it's a true reflection of Jordan?

                                      I've watched seven eps, and I don't think I really know him. I find it really interesting they have made no mention of his family life off the court. In 7 there's a clip of him after winning in 93 and they say 'do you want to call your wife?' and I thought 'he's married?'.

                                      That stuff is pretty relevant to someone's personality, mindset, attitude. But the fact we haven't seen any of it makes it hard to really see him for who he was.

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                                        I disagree. I prefer they not fluff up the story with needless shit about his kids and his former wife.

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                                          The thing with this doco, is that they have a massively wide-ranging audience. There are some non-bball fans or high-level fans watching who love the background stories, the personal stuff, the high school and college bits, the baseball season and the stuff about his dad.

                                          Personally, that is not what I signed up for.

                                          It's called The Last Dance, supposedly full of inside footage of the final season. But what has become clear is that they have stretched footage designed for a 60-90 minute doco into a 10 part series, and they've padded it with stacks of old footage and storylines that we have seen before.

                                          The new interviews are great, but what I really want to see at least from here is the true behind the scene footage of this Indiana series and then the finals. Footage from every game then what happens afterwards. How they prepared for the next game, adjustments made etc.

                                          I don't think I'll get this, but I'll keep watching anyway.

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