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All Blacks vs Tonga

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #98

    I think the third and fourth choice Ten need some game time so Beauden Barrett gets a rest. Apart from that select the top team available.

    So the team I'd pick:

    1. Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. Tuipulotu 5. Whitelock 6. Savea 7. Cane 8. Read 9. A.Smith 10. J. Barrett 11. R. Ioane 12. SBW 13. ALB 14. Reece 15. B.Smith 16. Taylor 17. Moli 18. Ta'avao 19. S. Barrett 20. Jacobson 21. TJP 22. J.Ioane 23. G.Bridge
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      Crotty needs to be in the 23 as he is most needing gametime. Coltman too.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        I think the third and fourth choice Ten need some game time so Beauden Barrett gets a rest. Apart from that select the top team available.

        So the team I'd pick:

        1. Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. Tuipulotu 5. Whitelock 6. Savea 7. Cane 8. Read 9. A.Smith 10. J. Barrett 11. R. Ioane 12. SBW 13. ALB 14. Reece 15. B.Smith 16. Taylor 17. Moli 18. Ta'avao 19. S. Barrett 20. Jacobson 21. TJP 22. J.Ioane 23. G.Bridge
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        @sparky You can count on it that Ryan Crotty will get a start because he missed the entire TRC. Scott Barrett probably, too.

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          Would be good if they tried Bridge on the right wing.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            I think the third and fourth choice Ten need some game time so Beauden Barrett gets a rest. Apart from that select the top team available.

            So the team I'd pick:

            1. Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. Tuipulotu 5. Whitelock 6. Savea 7. Cane 8. Read 9. A.Smith 10. J. Barrett 11. R. Ioane 12. SBW 13. ALB 14. Reece 15. B.Smith 16. Taylor 17. Moli 18. Ta'avao 19. S. Barrett 20. Jacobson 21. TJP 22. J.Ioane 23. G.Bridge
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            @sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

            I think the third and fourth choice Ten need some game time so Beauden Barrett gets a rest. Apart from that select the top team available.

            So the team I'd pick:

            1. Moody 2. Coles 3. Laulala 4. Tuipulotu 5. Whitelock 6. Savea 7. Cane 8. Read 9. A.Smith 10. J. Barrett 11. R. Ioane 12. SBW 13. ALB 14. Reece 15. B.Smith

            2. Taylor 17. Moli 18. Ta'avao 19. S. Barrett 20. Jacobson 21. TJP 22. J.Ioane 23. G.Bridge

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              "We won't risk anyone who's 50-50, or even 80-20," Hansen told a press conference in Hamilton.

              "If we could play all 31 members in the weekend, that's what we'd do. But we're only allowed to play 23. So we're going to have to make some hard decisions, because not all of them can play."

              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115478956/all-blacks-v-tonga-josh-ioane-called-in-as-injury-cover-for-richie-mounga

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                It's a Barrett conspiracy to remove Josh Ioane from the Otago squad in the weekend of Taranaki's Ranfurly Shield Challenge.

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                  The Pacific Legends have unveiled a squad stacked with fire-power and big names from the recent past for their clash against the New Zealand Barbarians in Hamilton on Saturday 7 September.
                  Coached by Tana Umaga, the Pacific Legends squad features former internationals from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, New Zealand and Australia, recently retired sevens stars, and even a former rugby league star in the form of Lesley ‘The Volcano’ Vainikolo.

                  Pacific Legends Squad:
                  Inoke Afeaki, Tomasi Cama, Graham Dewes, DJ Forbes, Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, Frank Halai, Jeff Ierome, Roy Kinikinilau, Nili Latu, Filipo Levi, Lua Lokotui, Laisa Maasi, Deacon Manu, Seilala Mapusua, Onehunga Mata’uiau, Luke Mealamu, Mikaele Pesamino, Junior Poluleuigaga, John Senio, Semo Sititi, Hale T Pole, Justin Va’a, To’o Vaega, Samiu Vahafolau, Lesley Vainikolo, Silao Vaisola-Sefo, Tanner Vili, Gavin Williams, Radike Samo
                  Coach: Tana Umaga
                  The all-star clash will kick off at 12.10pm at FMG Stadium Waikato prior to the All Blacks vs Tonga match at 2.35pm. Get your TICKETS HERE.

                  The driving force behind the curtain raiser is the MaiBody, MaiFuture health project launched by the Pacific Rugby Players (PRP) last year that sees high profile rugby players role modelling healthier lifestyles to fight obesity and diabetes.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    "We won't risk anyone who's 50-50, or even 80-20," Hansen told a press conference in Hamilton.

                    "If we could play all 31 members in the weekend, that's what we'd do. But we're only allowed to play 23. So we're going to have to make some hard decisions, because not all of them can play."

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115478956/all-blacks-v-tonga-josh-ioane-called-in-as-injury-cover-for-richie-mounga

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

                    "We won't risk anyone who's 50-50, or even 80-20," Hansen told a press conference in Hamilton.

                    "If we could play all 31 members in the weekend, that's what we'd do. But we're only allowed to play 23. So we're going to have to make some hard decisions, because not all of them can play."

                    More great insight coming from Steve...

                    I don’t think Whitelock will start or perhaps even play.

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                      #107

                      It's a gamble playing any player that is a starter v SA IMO. Honestly throwing J Barrett in at 10 might not be the worst idea if there is any possibility of him playing there during the RWC (not an endorsement of him playing there just being pragmatic).

                      With respect to Tonga I doubt we will gain much from playing our top team unless we are injury free and can comfortably sub key players early.

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                        #108

                        Anyone know which players have the most minutes on the field so far this year?

                        We want to avoid a player being knackered in a World Cup knockout game simply because they've played too much already.

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                          Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

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                          • JCJ JC

                            Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

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                            @JC said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

                            Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

                            It's a survival exercise

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                            • JCJ JC

                              Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

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                              @JC I do, but a fair bit of what could be gained is lost if Mounga can't play. That system still needs practice. Likewise midfield combos, and 9/10, and lifting with nepo etc. Lots of stuff that needs to bed in.

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                                @JC I do, but a fair bit of what could be gained is lost if Mounga can't play. That system still needs practice. Likewise midfield combos, and 9/10, and lifting with nepo etc. Lots of stuff that needs to bed in.

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                                @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

                                @JC I do, but a fair bit of what could be gained is lost if Mounga can't play. That system still needs practice. Likewise midfield combos, and 9/10, and lifting with nepo etc. Lots of stuff that needs to bed in.

                                Agree. Calculated risk to bed in some of the training field work. Can't go into the SA game wondering if the work you are doing will pay off.
                                It may risk some players' bodies but will benefit their minds.

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                                  As Hansen has said, some players need to play as the gap between Bled II and the SA game is too long. There is a risk of injury in any game or training.

                                  I'd rather be playing Tonga than be Wales and Ireland playing each other again this weekend.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @DrivingMaul Do you know when the ABs are training this week? I might go down and have a look.

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                                    @Bovidae Sorry I don't. I get media access for Mitre 10 Cup but not Super Rugby or All Blacks

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                                      Yeah - the Bled test was 17 August - the SA pool game is 21 September.

                                      Can't go into that game having not played for a month.

                                      I think we will see something close to the top team - minus injuries (Mo'unga, Goodhue and Retallick).

                                      Moody, Coles, Laulala
                                      Whitelock, Barrett
                                      Savea, Cane, Read
                                      Smith, Barrett
                                      SBW, Crotty
                                      Bridge, R. Ioane, Smith

                                      Tuúngafasi, Taylor, Taávao, Tuipolotu, Todd, Perenara, Josh Ioane, Lienert-Brown

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                                        New Zealand Barbarian Legends team in alphabetical order: *

                                        Mana Ashford
                                        Monty Betham
                                        Jason Chandler
                                        Loki Crichton
                                        Dave Dillon
                                        Rhys Duggan
                                        Ross Filipo
                                        Troy Flavell
                                        Corey Flynn
                                        Rico Gear
                                        Craig Glendinning
                                        Jarod Hoeata
                                        Tony Koonwaiyou
                                        Tone Kopelani
                                        Wairangi Koopu
                                        Johnny Leo'o
                                        Slade McFarlane
                                        Cameron McIntyre
                                        Matt Mustchin
                                        Sonny Parker
                                        Matua Parkinson
                                        Kevin Senio
                                        Chris Smylie
                                        Carlos Spencer
                                        Sherwin Stowers
                                        Rua Tipoki
                                        Ofisa Tonu’u
                                        Tane Tu’ipolotu
                                        Scott Waldrom
                                        Ruben Wiki

                                        *Teams not limited to this list

                                        Coach: Sir Michael Jones
                                        Team Support: Mils Muliaina
                                        Team Support: Eroni Clarke
                                        Team Doctor: Jeremy Stanley

                                        A star-studded line-up of mates will join forces on the field and reconnect off it in a bid to raise awareness of diabetes and obesity in Maori and Pacific Islanders when the NZ Barbarian Legends take on the Pacific Legends in Hamilton on Saturday 7 September.
                                        
                                        The highly anticipated spectacle will see 11 former All Blacks and multiple past New Zealand internationals take the field against an outstanding team of ex-Pacific internationals in the curtain raiser to the All Blacks v Tonga match at 12.10pm at FMG Waikato Stadium.
                                        
                                        League legends Monty Betham, Ruben Wiki and Wairangi Koopu will turn their hands to rugby in what is expected to be a highly physical encounter.
                                        

                                        http://www.allblacks.com/News/34658/eleven-former-all-blacks-lace-up-for-nz-barbarian-legends

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                                          looking at the team lists, i am honestly more interested in watching the curtain raiser then the "test"

                                          This is a tune up game. The top 23 have to play as much as possible. But then we have to hope no one gets hurt. Everything to lose, fuck all to gain. A necessary evil.

                                          That horrible mix of going through the motions without revealing anything, but not going soft enough that you get hurt (or lit the fuck up by a fired up Tongan).

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