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  • WillieTheWaiterW Offline
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    #173

    he got disqualified anyway for changing his line during the sprint so wasn't gonna win anyhoo...
    but still a massive fcukup for both
    just screwed Hirschi really as he chopped him and he had to stop

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      Ánother big "Wow" day in the Giro on Stage 3.

      Geraint Thomas crashed at the start (I gather still in the neutral zone) and presumably injured enough that he got dropped even before the start of the climb up Mt. Etna. He lost more than 12 minutes on the Stage winner and barring something extraordinary is surely out of GC contention.

      Almost as sensationally, Simon Yates blew up on the climb and is 3 minutes or so down on the other main GC contenders.

      If you want to see riding that isn't the big GC boys being dragged up the hill by their teams then this was it (and it's great!).

      In my view, Fuglsang looked the strongest of those I'd expect to fight things out, although Kelderman jumped away from the others and gained 10 seconds.

      Might be a battle of the old men - Fuglsang, Nibali, Kruiswijk, Pozzovivo, Majka all contending - along with Kelderman, maybe Bilbao (but surely having ridden the TdF he will fade).

      Things aren't irretrievable for Yates, but a pretty ominous fade.

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        https://twitter.com/i/status/1313114965620994051

        If this video works it shows Thomas' crash.

        Someone has made a bloody good shot with a red bidon - missed a lot of lesser lights and taken down the favourite!

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          #176

          Yeah looked fkn nasty

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            https://twitter.com/i/status/1313114965620994051

            If this video works it shows Thomas' crash.

            Someone has made a bloody good shot with a red bidon - missed a lot of lesser lights and taken down the favourite!

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            #177

            @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

            https://twitter.com/i/status/1313114965620994051

            If this video works it shows Thomas' crash.

            Someone has made a bloody good shot with a red bidon - missed a lot of lesser lights and taken down the favourite!

            crashes like that are the worst - if you're flying you slide and don't tend to get too much damage other than skin.. when you're a bit slower and land with your weight that's what farks you

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              Ánother big "Wow" day in the Giro on Stage 3.

              Geraint Thomas crashed at the start (I gather still in the neutral zone) and presumably injured enough that he got dropped even before the start of the climb up Mt. Etna. He lost more than 12 minutes on the Stage winner and barring something extraordinary is surely out of GC contention.

              Almost as sensationally, Simon Yates blew up on the climb and is 3 minutes or so down on the other main GC contenders.

              If you want to see riding that isn't the big GC boys being dragged up the hill by their teams then this was it (and it's great!).

              In my view, Fuglsang looked the strongest of those I'd expect to fight things out, although Kelderman jumped away from the others and gained 10 seconds.

              Might be a battle of the old men - Fuglsang, Nibali, Kruiswijk, Pozzovivo, Majka all contending - along with Kelderman, maybe Bilbao (but surely having ridden the TdF he will fade).

              Things aren't irretrievable for Yates, but a pretty ominous fade.

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              #178

              @Chris-B yesterday’s events have already turned the Giro into a yawn fest for me. I’ve now got 10 days or so of waiting to watch arguably the two in form superstars (Van Aert and Van der Poel) smash each other at the Tour of Flanders and then a week later, Paris Roubaix (my favourite race of the year).

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                @Chris-B yesterday’s events have already turned the Giro into a yawn fest for me. I’ve now got 10 days or so of waiting to watch arguably the two in form superstars (Van Aert and Van der Poel) smash each other at the Tour of Flanders and then a week later, Paris Roubaix (my favourite race of the year).

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                @scribe Has got a bit of an element of Federer crashing out in the first round at Wimbledon, but it will change the entire dynamic of the race.

                Ineos possibly had a strong enough team to dominate the race, but I'm not sure anyone else does. Might end up being more of a battle of wits among the main contenders.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @scribe Has got a bit of an element of Federer crashing out in the first round at Wimbledon, but it will change the entire dynamic of the race.

                  Ineos possibly had a strong enough team to dominate the race, but I'm not sure anyone else does. Might end up being more of a battle of wits among the main contenders.

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                  @Chris-B A battle of wits, but they’re all B list contenders at best. Nibali’s best days are behind him, and have been for some time. My only hope is that a young thruster seizes his chance like Hirschi or Pogacar did in the TdF. Don’t really know who that might be though. Geoghan Hart got dropped yesterday but is only a couple of minutes back on GC. Ineos have a relatively strong team and might be able to do something with him. They’ll also be looking for at least a couple more stage wins in the TT stages via Ganna or Dennis.

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                    @Chris-B A battle of wits, but they’re all B list contenders at best. Nibali’s best days are behind him, and have been for some time. My only hope is that a young thruster seizes his chance like Hirschi or Pogacar did in the TdF. Don’t really know who that might be though. Geoghan Hart got dropped yesterday but is only a couple of minutes back on GC. Ineos have a relatively strong team and might be able to do something with him. They’ll also be looking for at least a couple more stage wins in the TT stages via Ganna or Dennis.

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                    @scribe said in Road Cycling:

                    @Chris-B A battle of wits, but they’re all B list contenders at best. Nibali’s best days are behind him, and have been for some time. My only hope is that a young thruster seizes his chance like Hirschi or Pogacar did in the TdF. Don’t really know who that might be though. Geoghan Hart got dropped yesterday but is only a couple of minutes back on GC. Ineos have a relatively strong team and might be able to do something with him. They’ll also be looking for at least a couple more stage wins in the TT stages via Ganna or Dennis.

                    From a SA perspective, Louis Meintjies is still there and only 1:59 back.... but:

                    • he is not really young anymore
                    • I haven't seen him look like the rider who finished in the Top 10 oif the TDF and Vuelta a good few seasons back

                    Not holding my breath...

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      https://twitter.com/i/status/1313114965620994051

                      If this video works it shows Thomas' crash.

                      Someone has made a bloody good shot with a red bidon - missed a lot of lesser lights and taken down the favourite!

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                      @Chris-B that's why we all know to avoid painted lines in the wet.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Chris-B that's why we all know to avoid painted lines in the wet.

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                        #183

                        @antipodean it wasn’t a painted line. He hit a Bahrain Merida bidon that was one of two I saw in the clip, rolling across the road.

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                          @antipodean it wasn’t a painted line. He hit a Bahrain Merida bidon that was one of two I saw in the clip, rolling across the road.

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                          @scribe said in Road Cycling:

                          @antipodean it wasn’t a painted line. He hit a Bahrain Merida bidon that was one of two I saw in the clip, rolling across the road.

                          I didn't see that the first time - just looked like he'd it the paint.

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                            @Chris-B A battle of wits, but they’re all B list contenders at best. Nibali’s best days are behind him, and have been for some time. My only hope is that a young thruster seizes his chance like Hirschi or Pogacar did in the TdF. Don’t really know who that might be though. Geoghan Hart got dropped yesterday but is only a couple of minutes back on GC. Ineos have a relatively strong team and might be able to do something with him. They’ll also be looking for at least a couple more stage wins in the TT stages via Ganna or Dennis.

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                            @scribe I guess if you're looking for a young thruster then Joao Almeida wouldn't be a bad bet at present.

                            But, I think it will come down to a battle of the old guys - with the caveat that I don't think Yates is out of contention. I'd like there to be some explanation for his fade though and it doesn't seem like they have one. Michelton Scott pretty clearly rode in expectation that he could win the Stage.

                            A podium of Fuglsang, Kruiswijk and Nibali wouldn't surprise me.

                            Thomas has a broken pelvis and has withdrawn.

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                              https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/54441571
                              Italy's Luca Wackermann was taken to hospital after a helicopter "flying too low" caused a crash near the end of stage four of the Giro d'Italia.

                              Vini Zabu-KTM's Wackermann and Etienne van Empel both fell in the incident.

                              Dutch rider Van Empel was able to get back up but his teammate was less fortunate.

                              "Wackermann was sent to the hospital, he was barely conscious," team boss Andrea Citracca told Italian TV station RAI2.

                              "The helicopter was flying too low, the movement of the air blew up the barriers. It is not clear if he has broken his pelvis. The barriers were not tied properly."

                              Vini Zabu-KTM later confirmed that Wackermann had abandoned the race with a broken nose and has a suspected broken back, along with multiple cuts and bruises.

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                                https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/54441571
                                Italy's Luca Wackermann was taken to hospital after a helicopter "flying too low" caused a crash near the end of stage four of the Giro d'Italia.

                                Vini Zabu-KTM's Wackermann and Etienne van Empel both fell in the incident.

                                Dutch rider Van Empel was able to get back up but his teammate was less fortunate.

                                "Wackermann was sent to the hospital, he was barely conscious," team boss Andrea Citracca told Italian TV station RAI2.

                                "The helicopter was flying too low, the movement of the air blew up the barriers. It is not clear if he has broken his pelvis. The barriers were not tied properly."

                                Vini Zabu-KTM later confirmed that Wackermann had abandoned the race with a broken nose and has a suspected broken back, along with multiple cuts and bruises.

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                                @dogmeat It's a tough business being a cyclist.

                                Rogue cars escaping onto the course. Dogs. Dickhead spectators.

                                Let alone your fellow competitors throwing bidons under your wheels and now bloody aerial attacks!

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                                  @Chris-B yesterday’s events have already turned the Giro into a yawn fest for me. I’ve now got 10 days or so of waiting to watch arguably the two in form superstars (Van Aert and Van der Poel) smash each other at the Tour of Flanders and then a week later, Paris Roubaix (my favourite race of the year).

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                                  #188

                                  @scribe said in Road Cycling:

                                  @Chris-B yesterday’s events have already turned the Giro into a yawn fest for me. I’ve now got 10 days or so of waiting to watch arguably the two in form superstars (Van Aert and Van der Poel) smash each other at the Tour of Flanders and then a week later, Paris Roubaix (my favourite race of the year).

                                  P-R has been canned.
                                  Upsurge in cases in the north and Lille metro area locked down. Judged too risky to hold race.
                                  If there is virus around it is probably a good decision. Can't control people lining tracks through paddocks and the D'Arenburg is so packed it's like being at the rugby.

                                  Apparently first time a year has not had a PR race since 1942 (must look that up). Hopefully back in sequence in April.

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                                    @scribe said in Road Cycling:

                                    @Chris-B yesterday’s events have already turned the Giro into a yawn fest for me. I’ve now got 10 days or so of waiting to watch arguably the two in form superstars (Van Aert and Van der Poel) smash each other at the Tour of Flanders and then a week later, Paris Roubaix (my favourite race of the year).

                                    P-R has been canned.
                                    Upsurge in cases in the north and Lille metro area locked down. Judged too risky to hold race.
                                    If there is virus around it is probably a good decision. Can't control people lining tracks through paddocks and the D'Arenburg is so packed it's like being at the rugby.

                                    Apparently first time a year has not had a PR race since 1942 (must look that up). Hopefully back in sequence in April.

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                                      Simon Yates had to pull out of the Giro - positive Covid test. Might explain his lacklustre climb on Mt. Etna if he was starting to sicken.

                                      Three flat stages and then a mountain stage last night. A small amount of shuffling among the major contenders. Wilco Kelderman seems to be going very well.

                                      May be 10 guys in with a chance of winning at present.

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                                        Steven Kruiswijk, Michael Matthews and the remainder of Yates' Michelton Scott team have all withdrawn from the Giro due to positive covid tests.

                                        https://www.velonews.com/events/giro-ditalia/mitchelton-scott-withdraws-from-giro-ditalia-as-four-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19/

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                                          Steven Kruiswijk, Michael Matthews and the remainder of Yates' Michelton Scott team have all withdrawn from the Giro due to positive covid tests.

                                          https://www.velonews.com/events/giro-ditalia/mitchelton-scott-withdraws-from-giro-ditalia-as-four-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19/

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                                          @Chris-B on the positive side, Peter Sagan won for the first time in 15 months with typical Sagan panache. Eurosport commentators rated it as one of the best in his 120ish win palmares. Not sure about that but it was hugely impressive from a breakaway. No one-handed wheelie to cross the finish line though ...

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