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    Chris B.
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    https://www.globalcyclingnetwork.com/racing/analysis/analysis-hierarchies-become-clear-as-jumbo-visma-drop-sepp-kuss-on-the-angliru

    An interesting summary. Seems about right.

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      https://www.globalcyclingnetwork.com/racing/analysis/analysis-hierarchies-become-clear-as-jumbo-visma-drop-sepp-kuss-on-the-angliru

      An interesting summary. Seems about right.

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      @Chris-B

      Yeah, I'm not sure where Jonas stands, but it feels like they are lacking a little leadership here, they could have three different winners of the three tours. As a team, I'd be pushing that, but maybe they are more worried about losing Roglic than Kuss.

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        @Chris-B

        Yeah, I'm not sure where Jonas stands, but it feels like they are lacking a little leadership here, they could have three different winners of the three tours. As a team, I'd be pushing that, but maybe they are more worried about losing Roglic than Kuss.

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        @gt12 I guess Kuss has said he doesn't want to be gifted the tour, but it's not really playing the game when his own teammates attack him.

        Jonas said he'd love to see Sepp win.

        Last mountain stage tonight so hopefully Sepp can hang tough.

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          Sepp just turned 29 and Primoz is about to turn 34 - Rog is more valuable right now, but probably not two years down the track.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            Sepp just turned 29 and Primoz is about to turn 34 - Rog is more valuable right now, but probably not two years down the track.

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            gt12
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            #570

            @Chris-B

            With Sepp as the super domestique, Jonas can challenge Pog, but without him TJV would look a lot less challenging for UAE.

            I dunno, it's been fascinating. I'm 100% behind Sepp to win though, so I'm pretty biased.

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              Record for most Vuelta wins is 4 and Roglic is on 3, which might be a factor too.

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                Jonas and Rog can kiss my hairy arse. I’ve lost all respect for them now. WTF is Team Mgt doing?

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                  Will be interesting to see if almost the last line in this interview is true (they want me to win the Vuelta). With the lead as small as it is, they need to lead Sepp, not take seconds off him.

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                    Good man Jonas!

                    Kuss extends his lead with Jonas as his domestique.

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                      Some interviews here:

                      Sepp

                      Jonas seems very onboard with Sepp going all the way

                      Roglic not quite so happy...

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        Will be interesting to see if almost the last line in this interview is true (they want me to win the Vuelta). With the lead as small as it is, they need to lead Sepp, not take seconds off him.

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                        Chris B.
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                        @gt12 Looks like TJV has realized it would be a bit of a PR fiasco if they don't support Sepp to win. I'd imagine there's lots of American cycling fans would be hugely pissed.

                        Flat stage, hilly stage, finale.

                        With luck he should be good from here.

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                          Sepp wins.

                          The fun now will be to see if there are any repercussions with Roglic - he may want to move if he can't get a shot at Italia and the Vuelta.

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                            And, Roglic announces that he is leaving TJV.
                            I wonder whether it was on the cards and that's why they let Sepp win?

                            Discussion from LT here.

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                              likely leaving cause of the merger between jumbo and quickstep.. will be 4 grandie tour winners on one team. be a few more movements

                              anyhoo - in more important news closer to home. Youngest took out her age group in the Nat road cycling champs last weekend.
                              bit of a stressed dad moment - got caught right on the line (her closest to camera) she snuck it by millimeters if the line was 10cm further she would have lost!
                              stephroadie.JPG

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                                That’s so awesome! I take it your surname is not Pidcock, otherwise they would’ve awarded it to the other lass.

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                                • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                                  likely leaving cause of the merger between jumbo and quickstep.. will be 4 grandie tour winners on one team. be a few more movements

                                  anyhoo - in more important news closer to home. Youngest took out her age group in the Nat road cycling champs last weekend.
                                  bit of a stressed dad moment - got caught right on the line (her closest to camera) she snuck it by millimeters if the line was 10cm further she would have lost!
                                  stephroadie.JPG

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                                  @WillieTheWaiter thats awesome!

                                  My sons mates came 1st and 2nd in U14 boys.

                                  Do they get pretty big numbers to that event?

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    And, Roglic announces that he is leaving TJV.
                                    I wonder whether it was on the cards and that's why they let Sepp win?

                                    Discussion from LT here.

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                                    @gt12 said in Road Cycling:

                                    And, Roglic announces that he is leaving TJV.
                                    I wonder whether it was on the cards and that's why they let Sepp win?

                                    Vingegaard was going to beat Roglic anyway in the Giro, and in every Tour. He's the threat, not Sepp.

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                                      @gt12 said in Road Cycling:

                                      And, Roglic announces that he is leaving TJV.
                                      I wonder whether it was on the cards and that's why they let Sepp win?

                                      Vingegaard was going to beat Roglic anyway in the Giro, and in every Tour. He's the threat, not Sepp.

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                                      @Chester-Draws said in Road Cycling:

                                      @gt12 said in Road Cycling:

                                      And, Roglic announces that he is leaving TJV.
                                      I wonder whether it was on the cards and that's why they let Sepp win?

                                      Vingegaard was going to beat Roglic anyway in the Giro, and in every Tour. He's the threat, not Sepp.

                                      Really? I didn't realise he was a good cyclist.

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                                      • JKJ JK

                                        @WillieTheWaiter thats awesome!

                                        My sons mates came 1st and 2nd in U14 boys.

                                        Do they get pretty big numbers to that event?

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                                        @JK said in Road Cycling:

                                        @WillieTheWaiter thats awesome!

                                        My sons mates came 1st and 2nd in U14 boys.

                                        Do they get pretty big numbers to that event?

                                        And then 4th in the MTB nationals yesterday

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                                        • JKJ JK

                                          @WillieTheWaiter thats awesome!

                                          My sons mates came 1st and 2nd in U14 boys.

                                          Do they get pretty big numbers to that event?

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                                          @JK said in Road Cycling:

                                          @WillieTheWaiter thats awesome!

                                          My sons mates came 1st and 2nd in U14 boys.

                                          Do they get pretty big numbers to that event?

                                          only been involved in schools cycling post-covid - my understanding is numbers are still way down.

                                          not easy to promote - winter sport in nz for many stupid reasons that are 'too hard' to change.

                                          training at 5.30am in the middle of winter on auckland roads only attracts the hardiest of souls and parents who love cycling.

                                          90% of nats attendees are from auckland, yet they do it in palmy, timaru next year - which is an absolute logistical nightmare for anyone to get families and equipment to.

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