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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #607

    Adam Yates and Almeida fighting this one out for UAE. Yates has 31 seconds going into the final time trial. Almeida is a better time trialist, but that looks a lot to make up. I'm guessing Yates will hold on.

    Those two have put the rest of the field to the sword - which is a bit crazy when you think they're likely to be Pogacar's super domestiques come the TdF. They can also pick from the likes of Ayuso, Soler, Vine, Majka, McNulty, Grosschartner, and del Toro for their climbing domestiques. They could field two strong teams!

    Saw a suggestion today that Jonas shouldn't ride theTdF since he's not yet back from injury.

    George is 18th in the GC. A decent time trial should keep him in the top 20, which would be a good result for him, I think. If he does a good one (for him) he could pick up a couple of places.

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    • Chris B.C Offline
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      Chris B.
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      #608

      No Tour de France for George this year. Israel Premiertech name their team and there's no room for him nor (not surprisingly) Froome - nor (a bit more surprisingly) Matthew Riccitello.

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      • Chris B.C Offline
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        Chris B.
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        #609

        No TdF for Finn Fisher-Black either. They've named their Super Team.

        Tadej Pogačar (Slo)
        Juan Ayuso (Spa)
        Pavel Sivakov (Fra)
        Marc Soler (Spa)
        Nils Politt (Ger)
        Adam Yates (GB)
        Joao Almeida (Por)
        Tim Wellens (Bel)

        I think they've got more guns than Jumbo LaB.

        https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2024/startlist

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          antipodean
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          #610

          https://twitter.com/theiaincameron/status/1805491823021875644

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            Machpants
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            #611

            That'll be a challenge for those skinny fucks, they'll freeze!

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              No TdF for Finn Fisher-Black either. They've named their Super Team.

              Tadej Pogačar (Slo)
              Juan Ayuso (Spa)
              Pavel Sivakov (Fra)
              Marc Soler (Spa)
              Nils Politt (Ger)
              Adam Yates (GB)
              Joao Almeida (Por)
              Tim Wellens (Bel)

              I think they've got more guns than Jumbo LaB.

              https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2024/startlist

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              gt12
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              #612

              @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

              No TdF for Finn Fisher-Black either. They've named their Super Team.

              Tadej Pogačar (Slo)
              Juan Ayuso (Spa)
              Pavel Sivakov (Fra)
              Marc Soler (Spa)
              Nils Politt (Ger)
              Adam Yates (GB)
              Joao Almeida (Por)
              Tim Wellens (Bel)

              I think they've got more guns than Jumbo LaB.

              https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2024/startlist

              Jumbo won’t go close. I think the only potential saving feature would be if the super doms are competing against each other. Cant see that with Pog there though.

              I think we are going to see a procession - Jonas is just coming back from injury so they’ll crack him on the first huuuuuge weekend. After that, it’ll be pretty boring.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

                No TdF for Finn Fisher-Black either. They've named their Super Team.

                Tadej Pogačar (Slo)
                Juan Ayuso (Spa)
                Pavel Sivakov (Fra)
                Marc Soler (Spa)
                Nils Politt (Ger)
                Adam Yates (GB)
                Joao Almeida (Por)
                Tim Wellens (Bel)

                I think they've got more guns than Jumbo LaB.

                https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2024/startlist

                Jumbo won’t go close. I think the only potential saving feature would be if the super doms are competing against each other. Cant see that with Pog there though.

                I think we are going to see a procession - Jonas is just coming back from injury so they’ll crack him on the first huuuuuge weekend. After that, it’ll be pretty boring.

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                Chris B.
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                #613

                @gt12 Just reading that Sepp Kuss has covid and won't start, so that's even worse. They've still got a good team, but Sepp is the guy you'd expect to still be there at the end of the mountain stages.

                I'm prepared to give Jonas some benefit of the doubt - and Tadej rode the Giro, so that may catch up with him at some point.

                TAB has:

                Tadej 1.62
                Jonas 3.50
                Primoz 9.00
                Remco 17.00

                Everyone else over $20. Given the likelihood of crashes, covid and unexpected cracking - someone like Remco or Joao Almeida ($41) might be worth a small punt!

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                • CyclopsC Offline
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                  #614

                  I didn't realise that the traditional Paris finish wasn't happening this year (Olympics) so instead the final stage is a time trial. Hope it's close, so much drama potential.

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                  • WillieTheWaiterW Offline
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                    WillieTheWaiter
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                    #615

                    can't see it being anything other than a cake walk for Pog. Hard to have that much time off and get the required level of fitness back. (see Pog last year after his busted wrist).
                    reckons he's fully recovered from the Giro and better than ever (noticeable how much leaner he is this year... which seems absurd considering how skinny they are..)
                    was funny listening to poddy with Geraint and him on it - G asked him out of 10 how rooted he was after the giro - answer was a 7.. G was basically 'ruined'.. and had to come home and spend time immediately doing stuff with his kids, Pogi 'no idea how you can do that - i just spent 2 days on the couch with the missus, good to go.'

                    Can't think of any kiwis at the tour this year.. no pithie or dion smith...
                    another year of waiting for our first stage (solo) victory!

                    Carapaz might be a good dark horse for a podium

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                      Femmes Tour going on and it's been a good watch (OK, highlights mainly).

                      Yesterday, Vollering in yellow gets taken out and her teammates don't come back to help her out. I've never seen that before; it should make for a nice friendly team bus.

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                        WillieTheWaiter
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                        #617

                        cycling world has lost its sh*t on the internet after she only ended up losing the tour by 4 secs....

                        in other news - close for Corbin Strong last night - 3rd in stage 2 of the Vuelta - no much press considering one of the best ever results for a kiwi in a stage in a grandie

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                          antipodean
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                          #618

                          https://twitter.com/uci_wwt_enjoyer/status/1824817074939789469

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                            Fucking hell, Vollering loses by less than 5 after winning on Alpe - fuck her fucking team mates and her team. She should get the fuck out of her contract and look for somewhere that treats her a little better.

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                              Chris B.
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                              #620

                              Excellent day for George in the Vuelta - finishes 9th on a mountain stage - alongside Sepp Kuss and just 28 seconds down on the small lead group headed by Roglic.

                              16th on GC due to lost time in earlier time trial.

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                                Chris B.
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                                #621

                                A very strange day. The peloton gave Ben O'Connor a win by 6.31 - he's much too dangerous a rider to gift that much time. He now leads Roglic by 4.51 and Primoz & Co will likely have a long hard battle to claw that time back.

                                George finished with the reduced peloton. Some "sort of" good news for him personally is that his team mate Riccitello didn't (edit: just read he had a crash so that's not good).

                                Israel Premiertch started the race with three protected riders - Riccitello, Michael Woods and George.

                                Woods lost time on the first mountain stage and is 3.5 minutes behind George, while Riccitello is 7 minutes behind. If they're going to continue to ride for GC then George has surely become the de facto team leader - for now, anyway.

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                                  Chester Draws
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                                  #622

                                  What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

                                  Roglic must be a very slow learner.

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                                  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                    What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

                                    Roglic must be a very slow learner.

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                                    #623

                                    @Chester-Draws said in Road Cycling:

                                    What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

                                    Roglic must be a very slow learner.

                                    Getting in, chasing, and losing that break also cooked on of his domestiques. Bora looked short of help today and they’ll all need good legs when they get to the mountains.

                                    Kuss was a fucking legend chasing Soler to get Wout back in contention for the stage. It was a huge effort from a GC guy on the flat.

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                                      Chris B.
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                                      #624

                                      Stage 9 and Adam Yates did a Ben O'Connor to bring himself somewhat back into the equation - as did Carapaz. UAE needed to do something after Almeida dropped out of contention yesterday and dropped out of the race with covid today.

                                      O'Connor was able to ride with the small Roglic group - Mas was able to break away from that group on the final climb, but it wasn't a mountain top finish and they reeled him back in on the flat after a descent.

                                      George had a mechanical right at the bottom of the final climb and lost 3 minutes on Roglic.

                                      Shades of the Giro if a few years ago. I guess we'll never know whether he could have ridden with that group - in theory the climb might have suited him - but potentially being about 10th turns into 16th.

                                      GC
                                      O'Connor
                                      Roglic
                                      Carapaz
                                      Mas
                                      Landa
                                      Lipowitz
                                      Yates
                                      Gall

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        Stage 9 and Adam Yates did a Ben O'Connor to bring himself somewhat back into the equation - as did Carapaz. UAE needed to do something after Almeida dropped out of contention yesterday and dropped out of the race with covid today.

                                        O'Connor was able to ride with the small Roglic group - Mas was able to break away from that group on the final climb, but it wasn't a mountain top finish and they reeled him back in on the flat after a descent.

                                        George had a mechanical right at the bottom of the final climb and lost 3 minutes on Roglic.

                                        Shades of the Giro if a few years ago. I guess we'll never know whether he could have ridden with that group - in theory the climb might have suited him - but potentially being about 10th turns into 16th.

                                        GC
                                        O'Connor
                                        Roglic
                                        Carapaz
                                        Mas
                                        Landa
                                        Lipowitz
                                        Yates
                                        Gall

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                                        gt12
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                                        #625

                                        @Chris-B

                                        Roglic didn't look like he'll be able to bring back 3 minutes on O'Connor, one of his domestiques rode away from him at one point...

                                        Will be a fun few days.

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                                          @Chris-B

                                          Roglic didn't look like he'll be able to bring back 3 minutes on O'Connor, one of his domestiques rode away from him at one point...

                                          Will be a fun few days.

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                                          Chris B.
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                                          #626

                                          @gt12 Yeah - he didn't have a great day - O'Connor even made a few seconds on him in the sprint bonus points.

                                          That's why I'm annoyed about George - guys he finished with the previous day - Lipowitz and Gall were able to ride with Primoz!

                                          Lots of big mountains to come and none of the teams able to exert a lot of control so plenty to come.

                                          Did you see Enric Mas save himself on the descent. Lucky lad! Should be covered in gravel rash! 🙂

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