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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    Chester Draws
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    What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

    Roglic must be a very slow learner.

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    • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

      What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

      Roglic must be a very slow learner.

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      @Chester-Draws said in Road Cycling:

      What is more bizarre is that the Vuelta was won in exactly this fashion last year on stage six.

      Roglic must be a very slow learner.

      Getting in, chasing, and losing that break also cooked on of his domestiques. Bora looked short of help today and they’ll all need good legs when they get to the mountains.

      Kuss was a fucking legend chasing Soler to get Wout back in contention for the stage. It was a huge effort from a GC guy on the flat.

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      • Chris B.C Offline
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        Chris B.
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        Stage 9 and Adam Yates did a Ben O'Connor to bring himself somewhat back into the equation - as did Carapaz. UAE needed to do something after Almeida dropped out of contention yesterday and dropped out of the race with covid today.

        O'Connor was able to ride with the small Roglic group - Mas was able to break away from that group on the final climb, but it wasn't a mountain top finish and they reeled him back in on the flat after a descent.

        George had a mechanical right at the bottom of the final climb and lost 3 minutes on Roglic.

        Shades of the Giro if a few years ago. I guess we'll never know whether he could have ridden with that group - in theory the climb might have suited him - but potentially being about 10th turns into 16th.

        GC
        O'Connor
        Roglic
        Carapaz
        Mas
        Landa
        Lipowitz
        Yates
        Gall

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          Stage 9 and Adam Yates did a Ben O'Connor to bring himself somewhat back into the equation - as did Carapaz. UAE needed to do something after Almeida dropped out of contention yesterday and dropped out of the race with covid today.

          O'Connor was able to ride with the small Roglic group - Mas was able to break away from that group on the final climb, but it wasn't a mountain top finish and they reeled him back in on the flat after a descent.

          George had a mechanical right at the bottom of the final climb and lost 3 minutes on Roglic.

          Shades of the Giro if a few years ago. I guess we'll never know whether he could have ridden with that group - in theory the climb might have suited him - but potentially being about 10th turns into 16th.

          GC
          O'Connor
          Roglic
          Carapaz
          Mas
          Landa
          Lipowitz
          Yates
          Gall

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          gt12
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          #625

          @Chris-B

          Roglic didn't look like he'll be able to bring back 3 minutes on O'Connor, one of his domestiques rode away from him at one point...

          Will be a fun few days.

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            @Chris-B

            Roglic didn't look like he'll be able to bring back 3 minutes on O'Connor, one of his domestiques rode away from him at one point...

            Will be a fun few days.

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            Chris B.
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            #626

            @gt12 Yeah - he didn't have a great day - O'Connor even made a few seconds on him in the sprint bonus points.

            That's why I'm annoyed about George - guys he finished with the previous day - Lipowitz and Gall were able to ride with Primoz!

            Lots of big mountains to come and none of the teams able to exert a lot of control so plenty to come.

            Did you see Enric Mas save himself on the descent. Lucky lad! Should be covered in gravel rash! 🙂

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @gt12 Yeah - he didn't have a great day - O'Connor even made a few seconds on him in the sprint bonus points.

              That's why I'm annoyed about George - guys he finished with the previous day - Lipowitz and Gall were able to ride with Primoz!

              Lots of big mountains to come and none of the teams able to exert a lot of control so plenty to come.

              Did you see Enric Mas save himself on the descent. Lucky lad! Should be covered in gravel rash! 🙂

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              #627

              @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

              @gt12 Yeah - he didn't have a great day - O'Connor even made a few seconds on him in the sprint bonus points.

              That's why I'm annoyed about George - guys he finished with the previous day - Lipowitz and Gall were able to ride with Primoz!

              Lots of big mountains to come and none of the teams able to exert a lot of control so plenty to come.

              Did you see Enric Mas save himself on the descent. Lucky lad! Should be covered in gravel rash! 🙂

              I can understand why cycle pants are generally black.

              You'd need a change after looking out over that drop.

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                Here it is!

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                  holy shit!!

                  that's a lucky run off! if that's not there he's over that barrier

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                    Chris B.
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                    #630

                    George's turn to pull an "O'Connor/Yates".

                    Pulls back 4.04 on OÇonnor and moves up to 10th overall. Interestingly, though, he says his priority is more a stage win than a high GC placing. The guy in 6th place is only 23 seconds ahead!

                    Roglic, Mas & Co made up 40 seconds on Ben O'Connor - so the GC battle definitely still all on.

                    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/a-horrible-dynamic-george-bennett-praises-teammates-hard-work-in-massive-vuelta-a-espana-breakaway/

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                      Nice terrain for Roglic and his team today, next few days will be interesting as O’Connor didn’t have great legs and lost his team. If that continues you’d have to assume that they can crack him at some stage.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        Nice terrain for Roglic and his team today, next few days will be interesting as O’Connor didn’t have great legs and lost his team. If that continues you’d have to assume that they can crack him at some stage.

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                        Chris B.
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                        #632

                        @gt12 Some sort of sadist must make up the Vuelta route. The remaining stages are:
                        Hilly
                        Mountain
                        Medium Mountain
                        Mountain
                        Rest day
                        Mountain
                        Medium mountain
                        Medium moutain
                        Hilly
                        Mountain
                        Time trial

                        Anything can happen. For a while today, George was in virtual second place.

                        If he can recover well overnight (and seemed like he didn't have to do too much work in the breakaway) then a top five GC position isn't far away.

                        Mas and Roglic appear to be the strongest riders in the race - but, neither of their teams nor AG2R seem to be able to control breakaways so someone could easily burgle this Vuelta (as O'Connor may have done already - but, he's possibly played his hand too soon).

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                          #633

                          Castrillo from the Kern wildcard team won overnight - four guys chasing him played silly buggers (Nico Roche especially pointing the finger at Marc Soler) and left their run too late. Looked like they made up 20 seconds in the last km, but Castrillo had 27 seconds!

                          GC contenders (including George) all finished in a group of 20 about 7 minutes behind - a bit of a late burst whittling down the peloton - but, no serious attacks.

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                            #634

                            Roglic pencilled his name onto the red jersey on Stage 13. He hasn't taken it yet, but he was much the strongest rider on the final climb. Ben O'Connor, George and Mas all lost chunks of time. O'Connor lost nearly 3 minutes to Roglic, who is now within easy striking distance - just 80 seconds behind. Mas tried to go with Primoz and eventually paid for it - losing a minute and finishing behind a number of others.

                            My hope that George was in a rich vein of form and might be able to ride with the best riders if he got a clear run got blown out of the water. He was the weakest of the top 10 - lost a minute on O'Connor - and slipped to 12th. His team mate - Michael Woods - won the stage from the breakaway.

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                              Chris B.
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                              #635

                              Roglic makes up a bit more ground on O'Çonnor - who does a pretty good job of defending the jersey. Roglic just 63 seconds behind. Haven't looked at the ITT course, but must be getting into territory that Primoz would be confident of making up the difference on the last day. Still much to happen before then.

                              George rolled the dice and tried to bridge across to the breakaway. I haven't seen that bit yet - but, he apparently had to put in a lot of work - cracked on the final climb and lost 20 minutes.

                              Castrillo from the wildcard team won his second stage - managed to pull away from and then hold off Alexander Vlasov. Surprising!

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                                Dodge
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                                #636

                                the end of that stage looked as brutal as any climb i can remember seeing. 24%...

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                                  It is an odd climb, because the really steep bits are mixed with some very gentle parts. Downhill even. The 24% was only a tiny bit and the average, even for the last three km, was a lot lower..

                                  The first guys over the line looked absolutely blown and made it look totally brutal. When Roglic went over he didn't look anything like that though.

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                                    It is an odd climb, because the really steep bits are mixed with some very gentle parts. Downhill even. The 24% was only a tiny bit and the average, even for the last three km, was a lot lower..

                                    The first guys over the line looked absolutely blown and made it look totally brutal. When Roglic went over he didn't look anything like that though.

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                                    @Chester-Draws said in Road Cycling:

                                    It is an odd climb, because the really steep bits are mixed with some very gentle parts. Downhill even. The 24% was only a tiny bit and the average, even for the last three km, was a lot lower..

                                    The first guys over the line looked absolutely blown and made it look totally brutal. When Roglic went over he didn't look anything like that though.

                                    That’s a very fair point, I think the mist made it look even more hellish.

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                                      Chris B.
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                                      #639

                                      There's some awful ones on the Tour of Turkey, e.g....

                                      https://www.tiktok.com/@globalcyclingnetwork/video/7288328049890823456

                                      Roglic closes to within 5 seconds of O'Connor.

                                      I think Ben is doomed - but, he may hold onto the jersey for another couple of days.

                                      Mas and Carapaz also looming - both able to put a minute on him today - so BOC may do well to hold onto a podium place.

                                      George shedding big minutes - which hopefully means he's going to have a crack at a stage win. Stages 18 and 19 look like stages that might suit him if he got away in break.

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                                        Chris B.
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                                        #640

                                        Meant to say yesterday that I thought last night's stage might have been one for Corbin Strong - since Wout Van Aert has withdrawn - especially if Corbin got over the mountains and Kaden Groves didn't.

                                        Kaden did - and won - Corbin got beaten by several others in any case.

                                        Got to think Corbin has the tools to win a Grand Tour stage at some point.

                                        BOC keeps the red jersey and probably a decent chance of doing the same tonight - though five seconds is a wafer thin margin. Looks like a couple of small climbs at the end tonight that might let Roglic gap him. They might also suit George in a breakaway - though I think tomorrow (Stage 19) might suit George in a breakaway more - 8km steep climb to a mountain finish.

                                        Stage 20 will be a killer - 7 climbs - 3 Category 1.

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                                          Anyone else been watching the Giro?

                                          What a fucking race and last night was mad with Yates getting redemption on Colle delle Finestre, fucking the young lad from UAE in much the same manner as Froome fucked him 6 or 7 years ago.

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