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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #629

    holy shit!!

    that's a lucky run off! if that's not there he's over that barrier

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    George's turn to pull an "O'Connor/Yates".

    Pulls back 4.04 on OÇonnor and moves up to 10th overall. Interestingly, though, he says his priority is more a stage win than a high GC placing. The guy in 6th place is only 23 seconds ahead!

    Roglic, Mas & Co made up 40 seconds on Ben O'Connor - so the GC battle definitely still all on.

    Alasdair Fotheringham  /  Aug 28, 2024  /  News

    'A horrible dynamic' - George Bennett praises teammates' hard work in massive Vuelta a España breakaway

    'A horrible dynamic' - George Bennett praises teammates' hard work in massive Vuelta a España breakaway

    New Zealander disappointed at failure to claim stage win but moves into top ten

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    Nice terrain for Roglic and his team today, next few days will be interesting as O’Connor didn’t have great legs and lost his team. If that continues you’d have to assume that they can crack him at some stage.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @gt12 Some sort of sadist must make up the Vuelta route. The remaining stages are:
    Hilly
    Mountain
    Medium Mountain
    Mountain
    Rest day
    Mountain
    Medium mountain
    Medium moutain
    Hilly
    Mountain
    Time trial

    Anything can happen. For a while today, George was in virtual second place.

    If he can recover well overnight (and seemed like he didn't have to do too much work in the breakaway) then a top five GC position isn't far away.

    Mas and Roglic appear to be the strongest riders in the race - but, neither of their teams nor AG2R seem to be able to control breakaways so someone could easily burgle this Vuelta (as O'Connor may have done already - but, he's possibly played his hand too soon).

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Castrillo from the Kern wildcard team won overnight - four guys chasing him played silly buggers (Nico Roche especially pointing the finger at Marc Soler) and left their run too late. Looked like they made up 20 seconds in the last km, but Castrillo had 27 seconds!

    GC contenders (including George) all finished in a group of 20 about 7 minutes behind - a bit of a late burst whittling down the peloton - but, no serious attacks.

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    Roglic pencilled his name onto the red jersey on Stage 13. He hasn't taken it yet, but he was much the strongest rider on the final climb. Ben O'Connor, George and Mas all lost chunks of time. O'Connor lost nearly 3 minutes to Roglic, who is now within easy striking distance - just 80 seconds behind. Mas tried to go with Primoz and eventually paid for it - losing a minute and finishing behind a number of others.

    My hope that George was in a rich vein of form and might be able to ride with the best riders if he got a clear run got blown out of the water. He was the weakest of the top 10 - lost a minute on O'Connor - and slipped to 12th. His team mate - Michael Woods - won the stage from the breakaway.

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    Roglic makes up a bit more ground on O'Çonnor - who does a pretty good job of defending the jersey. Roglic just 63 seconds behind. Haven't looked at the ITT course, but must be getting into territory that Primoz would be confident of making up the difference on the last day. Still much to happen before then.

    George rolled the dice and tried to bridge across to the breakaway. I haven't seen that bit yet - but, he apparently had to put in a lot of work - cracked on the final climb and lost 20 minutes.

    Castrillo from the wildcard team won his second stage - managed to pull away from and then hold off Alexander Vlasov. Surprising!

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    the end of that stage looked as brutal as any climb i can remember seeing. 24%...

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    It is an odd climb, because the really steep bits are mixed with some very gentle parts. Downhill even. The 24% was only a tiny bit and the average, even for the last three km, was a lot lower..

    The first guys over the line looked absolutely blown and made it look totally brutal. When Roglic went over he didn't look anything like that though.

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    @Chester-Draws said in Road Cycling:

    It is an odd climb, because the really steep bits are mixed with some very gentle parts. Downhill even. The 24% was only a tiny bit and the average, even for the last three km, was a lot lower..

    The first guys over the line looked absolutely blown and made it look totally brutal. When Roglic went over he didn't look anything like that though.

    That’s a very fair point, I think the mist made it look even more hellish.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    There's some awful ones on the Tour of Turkey, e.g....

    ⛰️ The final climb, Babadağ, in today's stage of the Tour Of Türkiye stage was so steep it even put the @astanaqazaqstanteam car in trouble! 🚙 #TUR2023
    GCN

    ⛰️ The final climb, Babadağ, in today's stage of the Tour Of Türkiye stage was so steep it even put the @astanaqazaqstanteam car in trouble! 🚙 #TUR2023

    ⛰️ The final climb, Babadağ, in today's stage of the Tour Of Türkiye stage was so steep it even put the @astanaqazaqstanteam car in trouble! 🚙 #TUR2023

    Roglic closes to within 5 seconds of O'Connor.

    I think Ben is doomed - but, he may hold onto the jersey for another couple of days.

    Mas and Carapaz also looming - both able to put a minute on him today - so BOC may do well to hold onto a podium place.

    George shedding big minutes - which hopefully means he's going to have a crack at a stage win. Stages 18 and 19 look like stages that might suit him if he got away in break.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #640

    Meant to say yesterday that I thought last night's stage might have been one for Corbin Strong - since Wout Van Aert has withdrawn - especially if Corbin got over the mountains and Kaden Groves didn't.

    Kaden did - and won - Corbin got beaten by several others in any case.

    Got to think Corbin has the tools to win a Grand Tour stage at some point.

    BOC keeps the red jersey and probably a decent chance of doing the same tonight - though five seconds is a wafer thin margin. Looks like a couple of small climbs at the end tonight that might let Roglic gap him. They might also suit George in a breakaway - though I think tomorrow (Stage 19) might suit George in a breakaway more - 8km steep climb to a mountain finish.

    Stage 20 will be a killer - 7 climbs - 3 Category 1.

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    Anyone else been watching the Giro?

    What a fucking race and last night was mad with Yates getting redemption on Colle delle Finestre, fucking the young lad from UAE in much the same manner as Froome fucked him 6 or 7 years ago.

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    @gt12 Only been following the reports.

    Sounds like Del Toro and Carapaz played a crazy game and gift wrapped it for Yates.

    Spend three weeks grinding your way around Italy and then run some sort of medieval vendetta - "don't care if I lose as long as you don't win!"

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    I've followed all of the Giro stages (using SBS and a VPN). It started as boring and ended quite phenomenally.

    I think Del Toro was just blown, rather than out-played. There were lots of riders able to keep up with him at the end, which should not be happening on a final mountain stage like that if you are a grand tour winner.

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    @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

    @gt12 Only been following the reports.

    Sounds like Del Toro and Carapaz played a crazy game and gift wrapped it for Yates.

    Spend three weeks grinding your way around Italy and then run some sort of medieval vendetta - "don't care if I lose as long as you don't win!"

    Good learning for the youngster. He got dragged up the hill by Carapaz (refusing to help) then still expected Carapaz to help him make up 2 minutes.

    I’m not sure he could go, but once Yates got ahead that far Del Toro didn’t seem to realize that for Carapaz there isn’t much difference between 2nd and 3rd.

    It was really up to Del Toro to close it down and he either couldn’t (I guess) and wouldn’t try as he was on the verge of cracking. Those are the same thing I guess.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    TDF fun to watch but no one can get near Pog, and following that no one can challenge Jonas for 2nd (yet at least), so the fun is really seeing who’ll get third.

    When Almeida went down I thought it might be interesting to see what would happen to Pog either way less help, but he doesn’t need it. And, when Visma had the numbers they couldn’t use them, especially Yates didn’t have the legs to help Jonas which questions whether they should have set him free to get the stage last week (I think they had already given up tbh). If all were fit and supporting Jonas maybe he wouldn’t be 4 minutes behind. Can’t see him getting closer so it’ll be interesting to see how the fight for the podium shakes out.

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