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  • HigginsH Offline
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    #127

    Numbers named in the squads so far
    Highlnaders = 39
    Blues = 40
    Crusdaers = 38
    Hurricanes = 39
    Chiefs = 39

    How many exactly are each team allowed to contract as there might well be some players still to be worked on (or possibly cut from the Blues if the maximum is 39)

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      Caleb Clark is 7s so maybe he's the 40th

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        Numbers named in the squads so far
        Highlnaders = 39
        Blues = 40
        Crusdaers = 38
        Hurricanes = 39
        Chiefs = 39

        How many exactly are each team allowed to contract as there might well be some players still to be worked on (or possibly cut from the Blues if the maximum is 39)

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        @Higgins Blues: 40 = 38 + Clarke + Barrett?

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          Great pdf with the 5 squads here: http://files.allblacks.com/2020_Investec_Super_Rugby_Squads_ISR.pdf

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              #132

              old man yelling out cloud moment

              Is there a distinct lack of star power in NZ rugby at the moment?

              Between everyone not in the AB 30 pissing off overseas, or Sabbaticals, it just feels like out Super squads are, on paper at least, way weaker than 15 years ago.

              Made worse next year by the usual post-world cup retirements.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  old man yelling out cloud moment

                  Is there a distinct lack of star power in NZ rugby at the moment?

                  Between everyone not in the AB 30 pissing off overseas, or Sabbaticals, it just feels like out Super squads are, on paper at least, way weaker than 15 years ago.

                  Made worse next year by the usual post-world cup retirements.

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                  #134

                  https://imgflip.com/i/3g5c7z

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    old man yelling out cloud moment

                    Is there a distinct lack of star power in NZ rugby at the moment?

                    Between everyone not in the AB 30 pissing off overseas, or Sabbaticals, it just feels like out Super squads are, on paper at least, way weaker than 15 years ago.

                    Made worse next year by the usual post-world cup retirements.

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                    @mariner4life It's a matter of perspective. For basically all teams it will be a rebuild year, and I find it quite exciting that new talent will get a run. I'm not convinced by several new signings across the NZ franchises, but there are some great, young players coming through and I can't wait to see them play, develop and - hopefully - improve at SR level. Hopefully, some of them will rise to ABs level.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      old man yelling out cloud moment

                      Is there a distinct lack of star power in NZ rugby at the moment?

                      Between everyone not in the AB 30 pissing off overseas, or Sabbaticals, it just feels like out Super squads are, on paper at least, way weaker than 15 years ago.

                      Made worse next year by the usual post-world cup retirements.

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                      #136

                      @mariner4life

                      Yep, not much to get too excited about.

                      However, it’s also a bit exacerbated by age, injury, and form: the Blues have Rieko who should be their superstar, the Chiefs Dmac coming back from injury, the Canes have Savea plus Laumape (not at the WC), while the Saders have Reece plus some very good young talent in Jordan and Ennor. For the Landers, well, umm, not many there whose poster you’d want on your wall, probably Smith?

                      Beyond that, we have a bunch of potential young superstars away doing 7s too.

                      If all of these guys turn out to be good, we’re well placed for ‘star’ power, but it certainly feels like a rebuilding year.

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                          @Stargazer yeah, look i am cool with that half full v half empty analogy to be fair

                          For a guy like you, an avid watcher of all levels of rugby, it will be great seeing guys you have seen since school boys continuing their journey.

                          To a guy like me, in a different country, who, thanks to the time difference, watches very little NPC rugby, i am presented with a product that is full of might be's and probably never will be's. Most of which i either have never heard of, or who i haven't even seen play in 6 months.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            old man yelling out cloud moment

                            Is there a distinct lack of star power in NZ rugby at the moment?

                            Between everyone not in the AB 30 pissing off overseas, or Sabbaticals, it just feels like out Super squads are, on paper at least, way weaker than 15 years ago.

                            Made worse next year by the usual post-world cup retirements.

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                            #139

                            @mariner4life so much this. I was looking through the super squads yesterday and could barely muster a meh.

                            Would be interesting to see a full list of NZ overseas players who could add a bit to Super rugby.

                            Vito
                            Luatua
                            Piutau
                            Lima
                            Kerr Barlow
                            Faumuina
                            Bird
                            Fekitoa
                            Maori Jesus
                            Moala

                            Must be sh*tloads more.

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                            • ToddyT Toddy

                              @mariner4life so much this. I was looking through the super squads yesterday and could barely muster a meh.

                              Would be interesting to see a full list of NZ overseas players who could add a bit to Super rugby.

                              Vito
                              Luatua
                              Piutau
                              Lima
                              Kerr Barlow
                              Faumuina
                              Bird
                              Fekitoa
                              Maori Jesus
                              Moala

                              Must be sh*tloads more.

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                              @Toddy Does SBW count? If not then how about Ben Te'o or Dylan Hartley!

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                              • HigginsH Higgins

                                @Toddy Does SBW count? If not then how about Ben Te'o or Dylan Hartley!

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                                @Higgins said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @Toddy Does SBW count? If not then how about Ben Te'o or Dylan Hartley!

                                Yeah and then we get even more people moaning about players taking the place of up and comers!

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                                  The new squads are seemingly weaker than those of the past years, mainly because of the exodus affecting much younger players and a number of long serving stars.
                                  However, I am convinced that 4 or 5 NZ teams - at least - will make the top 8 as the SA teams are even more weakened than their NZ counterparts.
                                  Super Rugby is becoming a competition for the development of young players and I expect its level of play to decline significantly as soon as next year.

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                                    What struck me was just how many players are leaving for Japan, I have never watched that competition before, may have to tune in and see what its all about.

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                                      What struck me was just how many players are leaving for Japan, I have never watched that competition before, may have to tune in and see what its all about.

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                                      @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      What struck me was just how many players are leaving for Japan, I have never watched that competition before, may have to tune in and see what its all about.

                                      It's shit. Half hearted rugby at best. Want to watch a bunch of players perform well within themselves, walking to rucks and generally not caring. Welcome to Japanese rugby.

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        The new squads are seemingly weaker than those of the past years, mainly because of the exodus affecting much younger players and a number of long serving stars.
                                        However, I am convinced that 4 or 5 NZ teams - at least - will make the top 8 as the SA teams are even more weakened than their NZ counterparts.
                                        Super Rugby is becoming a competition for the development of young players and I expect its level of play to decline significantly as soon as next year.

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                                        @cgrant said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        The new squads are seemingly weaker than those of the past years, mainly because of the exodus affecting much younger players and a number of long serving stars.
                                        However, I am convinced that 4 or 5 NZ teams - at least - will make the top 8 as the SA teams are even more weakened than their NZ counterparts.
                                        Super Rugby is becoming a competition for the development of young players and I expect its level of play to decline significantly as soon as next year.

                                        That's supposed to be the NPC

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          What struck me was just how many players are leaving for Japan, I have never watched that competition before, may have to tune in and see what its all about.

                                          It's shit. Half hearted rugby at best. Want to watch a bunch of players perform well within themselves, walking to rucks and generally not caring. Welcome to Japanese rugby.

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                                          @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          What struck me was just how many players are leaving for Japan, I have never watched that competition before, may have to tune in and see what its all about.

                                          It's shit. Half hearted rugby at best. Want to watch a bunch of players perform well within themselves, walking to rucks and generally not caring. Welcome to Japanese rugby.

                                          I have a patient whose son plays in Japan. Reckoned the trainings were quite arduous by NZ standards (he played NPC and was a fringe Super Rugby player). They must leave it on the training pitch

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