Super Rugby 2020
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Yeahtheboys although probably skewed slightly given there was a stat last year (or 2018) of 3 games I think about 58-3 for teams visiting SA?
Wasn't that the same ref?
Egon Seconds
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Yeahtheboys although probably skewed slightly given there was a stat last year (or 2018) of 3 games I think about 58-3 for teams visiting SA?
Wasn't that the same ref?
@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2020:
Wasn't that the same ref?
quite possibly, or maybe one ref did 2 games with huge pen counts f/a and the other was sandwiched in there due to being the other SA ref on duty in SA that weekend.
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@Yeahtheboys although probably skewed slightly given there was a stat last year (or 2018) of 3 games I think about 58-3 for teams visiting SA?
@taniwharugby Yeah, the Lions v Rebels game IIRC.
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Do u do updates for overseas teams?
@Yeahtheboys Nope, unfortunately, that would take too much time.
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There's plenty of reasons why teams would have a higher penalty count in a certain area.
That said, when South African refs control local games between South African teams and international opponents, the SA team has won the penalty count on 27 of 29 occasions.
That's not a great stat if I was a SANZAAR ref coach.
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Would be interesting to see the stats for three of the years with neutral refs.
I'd think Saffas rely more on being more physically dominant and forcing penalties while also being less inclined to "take the advantage" while under penalty advantage.
Still the raw stats don't look great.
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I really have taken Mark Reason's articles in the past as crap but he maybe correct in this Article.
[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119601400/mark-reason-the-referees-who-threaten-rugbys-health -
I really have taken Mark Reason's articles in the past as crap but he maybe correct in this Article.
[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119601400/mark-reason-the-referees-who-threaten-rugbys-health@Chris When his conclusion relies on his "analysis", I ignore it.
In the four games involving Kiwi teams at the weekend just gone, I counted around forty high or dangerous tackles (several from the opposition, particularly the Sunwolves). There was one yellow card and four penalties. That means about one in ten dangerous tackles is being penalised.No Reason, that's not what it means.
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I really have taken Mark Reason's articles in the past as crap but he maybe correct in this Article.
[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119601400/mark-reason-the-referees-who-threaten-rugbys-health@Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:
Mark Reason's articles in the past as crap but he maybe correct in this Article.
well if you fire as many shots as he does, you are bound to hit some good ones now and again, even if they are still off target!
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Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
@barbarian said in Super Rugby 2020:
Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
that is a terrifically entitled and needy little letter there
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Marinos doesn't do himself any favors with his reply.
How many years have we been complaining about the 'merit' ref (i.e., save us some money) system? Look at this yoga babble:
People are always producing statistics, but we will at the right time communicate our view on where we are from a competition perspective and the performances of our referees. I just don't understand where, all of sudden, after 10 years of meritocracy, suddenly now neutrality becomes an issue because a team, or teams, are suddenly are now feeling aggrieved by processes -
@barbarian said in Super Rugby 2020:
Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
that is a terrifically entitled and needy little letter there
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2020:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby 2020:
Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
that is a terrifically entitled and needy little letter there
Even had the gall to call it analysis. Didn't see anything testing the null hypothesis. Perhaps that was an addendum.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2020:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby 2020:
Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
that is a terrifically entitled and needy little letter there
Even had the gall to call it analysis. Didn't see anything testing the null hypothesis. Perhaps that was an addendum.
@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2020:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2020:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby 2020:
Another shot fired at SANZAAR and South African refs:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/a-letter-to-andy-marinos-ceo-sanzaar/
that is a terrifically entitled and needy little letter there
Even had the gall to call it analysis. Didn't see anything testing the null hypothesis. Perhaps that was an addendum.
Although I see your point, I'd be shocked if a one-way ANOVA didn't show a significant result for that sample between SA versus NZ and OZ. Did they link to the raw data? If so, I could run it (and check assumptions) pretty quickly.
