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    Not too sure where to post this but some cool insight from Ardie, hopefully more of this to come.

    https://www.facebook.com/ArdieSaveaNZ/videos/153078395987556/

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      Likewise did not know where to post this so here it is - a new rugby program on sky -

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      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

        Likewise did not know where to post this so here it is - a new rugby program on sky -

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        @Daffy-Jaffy It's good to see NZR and Sky coming up with something innovative during this period, but that's not a format I'd be interested in. Perhaps it will be great for a younger generation.

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          #726

          https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1245181830464073728

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            It costs the Highlanders ~$500,000 per month to run their team so $250,000 from NZR won't go too far.

            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/super-rugby-2020-highlanders-begin-pay-cuts-as-financial-strain-takes-toll.html

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              https://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/1245877830124072960

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                It costs the Highlanders ~$500,000 per month to run their team so $250,000 from NZR won't go too far.

                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/super-rugby-2020-highlanders-begin-pay-cuts-as-financial-strain-takes-toll.html

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                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                It costs the Highlanders ~$500,000 per month to run their team so $250,000 from NZR won't go too far.

                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/super-rugby-2020-highlanders-begin-pay-cuts-as-financial-strain-takes-toll.html

                Crusaders apparently even worse off.

                The Crusaders are one of five $10 million-plus businesses in New Zealand Super Rugby effectively operating without income while sport pauses worldwide. It's creating a grim outlook for operations that still have hefty overheads to meet.
                
                Mansbridge said they had been "really rigorous" with all their contracted services, and had already had some difficult conversations with fulltime staff. The Highlanders on Thursday confirmed they had been forced to slash salaries by 30 per cent and the Crusaders boss said their trim would be even higher.
                
                "The Highlanders business is a little bit smaller than us in scale. For us 20-30 per cent probably isn't enough."
                
                Yes, there was that $250,000 from NZ Rugby this week. It's a help, says Mansbridge, but not a solution.
                
                "When you think about having to deal with resourcing situations, the last thing we want is to go into 2021 and beyond losing intellectual property, chopping everything to the bone and throwing all the good bits out.
                
                "I'm nervous we'll have to go so hard to survive the next 6-12 months, or maybe even longer, that we might actually diminish the product. And if you diminish the product you diminish the All Blacks, and that's another conversation altogether."
                

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/120814222/crusaders-facing-ultimate-foe-as-they-dig-deep-to-survive-the-coronavirus-crisis

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  It costs the Highlanders ~$500,000 per month to run their team so $250,000 from NZR won't go too far.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/super-rugby-2020-highlanders-begin-pay-cuts-as-financial-strain-takes-toll.html

                  Crusaders apparently even worse off.

                  The Crusaders are one of five $10 million-plus businesses in New Zealand Super Rugby effectively operating without income while sport pauses worldwide. It's creating a grim outlook for operations that still have hefty overheads to meet.
                  
                  Mansbridge said they had been "really rigorous" with all their contracted services, and had already had some difficult conversations with fulltime staff. The Highlanders on Thursday confirmed they had been forced to slash salaries by 30 per cent and the Crusaders boss said their trim would be even higher.
                  
                  "The Highlanders business is a little bit smaller than us in scale. For us 20-30 per cent probably isn't enough."
                  
                  Yes, there was that $250,000 from NZ Rugby this week. It's a help, says Mansbridge, but not a solution.
                  
                  "When you think about having to deal with resourcing situations, the last thing we want is to go into 2021 and beyond losing intellectual property, chopping everything to the bone and throwing all the good bits out.
                  
                  "I'm nervous we'll have to go so hard to survive the next 6-12 months, or maybe even longer, that we might actually diminish the product. And if you diminish the product you diminish the All Blacks, and that's another conversation altogether."
                  

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/120814222/crusaders-facing-ultimate-foe-as-they-dig-deep-to-survive-the-coronavirus-crisis

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                  @Stargazer The Highlanders would be the smallest of the 5 franchises in terms of operating costs, and there is only so much fat you can trim to save money. The main sponsors of each team might have to dig deeper into their pockets.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Stargazer The Highlanders would be the smallest of the 5 franchises in terms of operating costs, and there is only so much fat you can trim to save money. The main sponsors of each team might have to dig deeper into their pockets.

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                    #731

                    @Bovidae Yep, and fans should turn up, once playing in front of a crowd is allowed again!

                    Unfortunately, there will be many fans who will no longer be able to buy the tickets.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Stargazer The Highlanders would be the smallest of the 5 franchises in terms of operating costs, and there is only so much fat you can trim to save money. The main sponsors of each team might have to dig deeper into their pockets.

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                        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                        @Stargazer The Highlanders would be the smallest of the 5 franchises in terms of operating costs, and there is only so much fat you can trim to save money. The main sponsors of each team might have to dig deeper into their pockets.

                        Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

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                        • sharkS shark

                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                          @Stargazer The Highlanders would be the smallest of the 5 franchises in terms of operating costs, and there is only so much fat you can trim to save money. The main sponsors of each team might have to dig deeper into their pockets.

                          Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

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                          @shark said in Super Rugby 2020:

                          Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

                          Common sense says they shouldn't, but if NZR has no more money to give the franchises then outside of a bank loan the only available source of money would be from the goodwill of their sponsors.

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                            @shark said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

                            Common sense says they shouldn't, but if NZR has no more money to give the franchises then outside of a bank loan the only available source of money would be from the goodwill of their sponsors.

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                            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            @shark said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

                            Common sense says they shouldn't, but if NZR has no more money to give the franchises then outside of a bank loan the only available source of money would be from the goodwill of their sponsors.

                            Which would be an awful look if those same sponsors had sent employees home without pay...

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/120857316/coronavirus-all-black-richie-mounga-other-crusaders-caught-flouting-lockdown-rules

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/120857316/coronavirus-all-black-richie-mounga-other-crusaders-caught-flouting-lockdown-rules

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                                @KiwiMurph I assume the camera operators receive the same rebuke .

                                "Acting on an anonymous tip, Newshub cameras caught Mo'unga and several unidentified players exercising together on a field next to the team's Rugby Park training ground."

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                                  Reporters are essential workers

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    Reporters are essential workers

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                                    @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    Reporters are essential workers

                                    Ahh but did they touch the balls?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      Reporters are essential workers

                                      Ahh but did they touch the balls?

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                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      Reporters are essential workers

                                      Ahh but did they touch the balls?

                                      who's balls?

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        Reporters are essential workers

                                        Ahh but did they touch the balls?

                                        who's balls?

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                                        @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        Reporters are essential workers

                                        Ahh but did they touch the balls?

                                        who's balls?

                                        The ones Richie was fondling. Apparently everyone had a go.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          @shark said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          Why would a sponsor pay more, for less product??

                                          Common sense says they shouldn't, but if NZR has no more money to give the franchises then outside of a bank loan the only available source of money would be from the goodwill of their sponsors.

                                          Which would be an awful look if those same sponsors had sent employees home without pay...

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                                          @antipodean A very good point. No amount of 'goodwill' defence could justify gifting a professional sporting outfit extra sponsorship dollars in lieu of paying the businesses' own employees.

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