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    New Zealand's top players have agreed to have their incomes slashed as NZ Rugby counters the financial issues created by the Covid-19 pandemic.
    NZ Rugby and the New Zealand Rugby Players Association have agreed that professional players will have 50 percent of forecasted player payments frozen in response to Covid-19.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121054259/nz-rugby-reveals-extent-of-pay-freeze-for-all-blacks-and-super-rugby-players

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      Sounds bloody complex, no easy sound bite percentages apart from the '50% of entire package frozen, possibly forever' amount. But hopefully it means those at the low end of the scale are having smaller reductions than the top end.

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        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121060327/coronavirus-nz-rugby-reveals-sam-whitelock-could-play-for-crusaders-this-year. As I had previously posted Sam Whitelock back and ready to play for Crusaders or Canterbury

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          Sounds bloody complex, no easy sound bite percentages apart from the '50% of entire package frozen, possibly forever' amount. But hopefully it means those at the low end of the scale are having smaller reductions than the top end.

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          @Machpants yeah I guess a non playing player is really worth a similar value regardless of ability.

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            I'm in favour of flagging SR and going into an AB-laden NPC. Some of the player availability would be sexy, especially if the likes of S Whitelock and other NH refugees were available. And at a stretch, if a trans- Ta$man bubble were possible, why not chuck four Australian teams into it for kind of a halfway house competition? Then play a BC series in November/December.

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/121238329/crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-says-10week-super-rugby-competition-possible

              "We will be able to play in Level One," Robertson told Will Greenwood's Podcast.
              
              "We will just play local games, derby games as we call it, so it will be 10 weeks home and away, and the first (team) - top of the table wins.
              
               "If we start June, July, August - we will get the Super in and we will go into the NPC and just finish later in the year," Robertson noted.
              
              "That's the information here at the moment but it all depends on what the government says."
              
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                What training would be allowed at level 2? 1m distancing is meant to be in effect so no contact training?

                Surely that means no start until 3 weeks after level 1?

                Level 1 has "No restrictions on gatherings". That seems like a long way away.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  What training would be allowed at level 2? 1m distancing is meant to be in effect so no contact training?

                  Surely that means no start until 3 weeks after level 1?

                  Level 1 has "No restrictions on gatherings". That seems like a long way away.

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                  @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  What training would be allowed at level 2? 1m distancing is meant to be in effect so no contact training?

                  Surely that means no start until 3 weeks after level 1?

                  Level 1 has "No restrictions on gatherings". That seems like a long way away.

                  We might see exemptions made in Level 2. like NRL in Australia once that starts up it will set a standard for other codes.

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                    I still think they should include the derby games that have already been played, like the NRL will do, as that should save 2 weeks of playing and then allow a final to be played.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      I still think they should include the derby games that have already been played, like the NRL will do, as that should save 2 weeks of playing and then allow a final to be played.

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                      #786

                      @Bovidae

                      Just skimming through the number of derby matches

                      Highlanders 1
                      Hurricanes 2
                      Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3

                      I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches

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                        @Bovidae

                        Just skimming through the number of derby matches

                        Highlanders 1
                        Hurricanes 2
                        Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3

                        I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches

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                        @Duluth I did realise that the Highlanders had played the least derby games but as one team would have to have a bye each week maybe it could still work.

                        I take your point about maximising the number of games for Sky.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Duluth I did realise that the Highlanders had played the least derby games but as one team would have to have a bye each week maybe it could still work.

                          I take your point about maximising the number of games for Sky.

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                          Duluth
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                          @Bovidae

                          Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks

                          The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.

                          [edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]

                          I'd rather think of it as a new season

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Bovidae

                            Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks

                            The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.

                            [edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]

                            I'd rather think of it as a new season

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                            @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            @Bovidae

                            Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks

                            The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.

                            [edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]

                            I'd rather think of it as a new season

                            i would watch the shit out of that. Zero points to start. Home and away. Final. Go!

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                              @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              @Bovidae

                              Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks

                              The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.

                              [edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]

                              I'd rather think of it as a new season

                              i would watch the shit out of that. Zero points to start. Home and away. Final. Go!

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                              Bovidae
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                              @mariner4life Robertson is saying no final will be played.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @mariner4life Robertson is saying no final will be played.

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                                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @mariner4life Robertson is saying no final will be played.

                                who the fuck is he to tell me what i want?

                                Rugby is a finals game.

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                                  https://www.facebook.com/therugbyroundup/videos/714223266050577/

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                                    https://www.facebook.com/therugbyroundup/videos/714223266050577/

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                                    @mikedogz hahaha...took me a bit to work out where that was going, so good.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Bovidae

                                      Just skimming through the number of derby matches

                                      Highlanders 1
                                      Hurricanes 2
                                      Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3

                                      I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches

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                                      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      @Bovidae

                                      Just skimming through the number of derby matches

                                      Highlanders 1
                                      Hurricanes 2
                                      Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3

                                      I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches

                                      Question will come down to - what makes more money? Mitre 10 Cup or Super Rugby as to what the season will look like. I don't think the answer is clear cut. You still have to pay all the Mitre 10 Cup players even if they don't have a season. Mitre 10 Cup is 7/8 games per week. Super Rugby is only 2. Super Rugby broadcasting rights can go all around the world but will South Africans or Australians bother watching if it is just NZ teams?

                                      Then you throw in uncertainty around internationals. That will be the priority

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                                        @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Bovidae

                                        Just skimming through the number of derby matches

                                        Highlanders 1
                                        Hurricanes 2
                                        Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3

                                        I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches

                                        Question will come down to - what makes more money? Mitre 10 Cup or Super Rugby as to what the season will look like. I don't think the answer is clear cut. You still have to pay all the Mitre 10 Cup players even if they don't have a season. Mitre 10 Cup is 7/8 games per week. Super Rugby is only 2. Super Rugby broadcasting rights can go all around the world but will South Africans or Australians bother watching if it is just NZ teams?

                                        Then you throw in uncertainty around internationals. That will be the priority

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                                        @hydro11

                                        If Scott Robertson is correct the plan is to have both

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                                          And club rugby has to fit in somewhere too. The majority of the NPC squads will come from that player pool.

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