Super Rugby 2020
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I still think they should include the derby games that have already been played, like the NRL will do, as that should save 2 weeks of playing and then allow a final to be played.
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Just skimming through the number of derby matches
Highlanders 1
Hurricanes 2
Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches
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@Duluth I did realise that the Highlanders had played the least derby games but as one team would have to have a bye each week maybe it could still work.
I take your point about maximising the number of games for Sky.
Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks
The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.
[edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]
I'd rather think of it as a new season
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Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks
The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.
[edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]
I'd rather think of it as a new season
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:
Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks
The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.
[edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]
I'd rather think of it as a new season
i would watch the shit out of that. Zero points to start. Home and away. Final. Go!
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:
Maybe, it would get tough on the Highlanders though. A 7 week round robin with no breaks
The Hurricanes would get one bye and everyone else two.
[edit - there's more byes needed than than because of the odd number of teams]
I'd rather think of it as a new season
i would watch the shit out of that. Zero points to start. Home and away. Final. Go!
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@mariner4life Robertson is saying no final will be played.
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2020:
@mariner4life Robertson is saying no final will be played.
who the fuck is he to tell me what i want?
Rugby is a finals game.
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@mikedogz hahaha...took me a bit to work out where that was going, so good.
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Just skimming through the number of derby matches
Highlanders 1
Hurricanes 2
Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:
Just skimming through the number of derby matches
Highlanders 1
Hurricanes 2
Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches
Question will come down to - what makes more money? Mitre 10 Cup or Super Rugby as to what the season will look like. I don't think the answer is clear cut. You still have to pay all the Mitre 10 Cup players even if they don't have a season. Mitre 10 Cup is 7/8 games per week. Super Rugby is only 2. Super Rugby broadcasting rights can go all around the world but will South Africans or Australians bother watching if it is just NZ teams?
Then you throw in uncertainty around internationals. That will be the priority
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:
Just skimming through the number of derby matches
Highlanders 1
Hurricanes 2
Blues, Chiefs & Crusaders 3I don't think it's about making the fairest rugby decision, it's about putting on the most number of matches
Question will come down to - what makes more money? Mitre 10 Cup or Super Rugby as to what the season will look like. I don't think the answer is clear cut. You still have to pay all the Mitre 10 Cup players even if they don't have a season. Mitre 10 Cup is 7/8 games per week. Super Rugby is only 2. Super Rugby broadcasting rights can go all around the world but will South Africans or Australians bother watching if it is just NZ teams?
Then you throw in uncertainty around internationals. That will be the priority
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2020:
If Scott Robertson is correct the plan is to have both
Right but under his plan you have to get under way in early June. Mitre 10 Cup is scheduled to start on Thursday 6 August. Let's say Super Rugby is scheduled to finish on July 25. To get in 10 rounds the competition would need to start on May 23. Throw in three weeks training before hand and the players basically need to be allowed to start training in one week's time. The earliest the country can go to level 2 is May 11.
So best case scenario we can get this competition happening if we push Mitre 10 Cup back two weeks. Mitre 10 Cup can probably get put back up to five weeks (you don't want it finishing after November as players need a break before next season).
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Benefits:
- Cheaper competition without flights to South Africa and Argentina.
- Less physical demand on players with travel.
Negatives:
- Could dilute the strength of NPC.
- May not drive enough revenue.
If Australian Super Rugby were as strong as the Reds used to be (in the early days), then the competition could be good. Unfortunately the Rebels remain diluting the player base.
I'd expect their broadcast partners will inform them which are the big audience fixtures. The problem is the parlous state of RA's finances and the board upheaval. Will they have to accept whatever Fox throws at them for next year?
Unless RA can be in a strong position, it will simply feel like a continuation of the last 30 years - New Zealand propping up Australian rugby. And given who is rumoured to be pushing for CEO, it doesn't fill one with confidence that support will be remembered.
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15 team comp. Round Robin and finals (top 6)
Harbour
Auckland
Waikato
Taranaki
Wellington
Ta$man
Canty
Otago
And 2 out of BOP, HB, and Counties.Qld, NSW, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth
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15 team comp. Round Robin and finals (top 6)
Harbour
Auckland
Waikato
Taranaki
Wellington
Ta$man
Canty
Otago
And 2 out of BOP, HB, and Counties.Qld, NSW, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth
@mariner4life super 6, 10 and CANZ were those that was prior to Super rugby.
Super 10 was top NZ/Aus teams, CANZ series had other teams in NZ, Argentina and Canada (who were expected to become a power...)
https://rugby365.com/opinion/second-phase/super-rugby-the-forgotten-era
could be an opportunity to look at other options too
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@mariner4life super 6, 10 and CANZ were those that was prior to Super rugby.
Super 10 was top NZ/Aus teams, CANZ series had other teams in NZ, Argentina and Canada (who were expected to become a power...)
https://rugby365.com/opinion/second-phase/super-rugby-the-forgotten-era
could be an opportunity to look at other options too
@taniwharugby yeah i realise it's a bit of a throwback. But, to me anyway, it makes sense to go back to provincialism if we are going to take the Saffers out of the equation.
The only question is, does this make enough money to keep the lights on?
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@taniwharugby yeah i realise it's a bit of a throwback. But, to me anyway, it makes sense to go back to provincialism if we are going to take the Saffers out of the equation.
The only question is, does this make enough money to keep the lights on?
@mariner4life probably need to include Japan to get that.
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15 team comp. Round Robin and finals (top 6)
Harbour
Auckland
Waikato
Taranaki
Wellington
Ta$man
Canty
Otago
And 2 out of BOP, HB, and Counties.Qld, NSW, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth
