RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)

[MajorPom]

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Crazy-Horse said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@cgrant said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

If the ABs lose this game, it shouldtn't be a disaster as the Boks would then face England in the semi final.

@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

But we would have to face the number 1 side in the world in the quarter final !!!

It's a squeaky tight RWC this time around.
I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.

The NZ public and media will go into meltdown if the ABs lose. The Fern will implode...

Let me be so presumptuous as to speak on behalf of New Zealanders and the Fern: Nah, I think you're wrong.

There won't be dancing in the streets, but there won't be wailing and gnashing of teeth either.
Disappointment - sure.
Lots of free advice to Hansen - sure.
But no doom and gloom. I think the Boks have earned sufficient respect lately for the AB's not to take a victory for granted this year.

The above applies even more to Saffers. In fact, a greater concern for me if the Boks should manage to win this game, is that Bok fans then think it's a party all the way to the final.

Worryingly enough, I suspect your right.

I think this year we've played 50% excellent, 50% shit against both SA & Aus. You can obviously only play as well as your opposition lets you, but the lesson is certainly there that if you don't turn up to play, you WILL lose.

That's not something that's always been the case for us over the past few years.

[Crazy Horse]

@MajorRage I don't recall the country ever not melting down to some degree when the ABs lose, especially a world cup game. Shit, even DV rates increase from what I have heard. But I suppose the circumstances will be different if they lose to SA, with it not being a knockout game.

[Billy Tell]

@Crazy-Horse said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@cgrant said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

If the ABs lose this game, it shouldtn't be a disaster as the Boks would then face England in the semi final.

@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

But we would have to face the number 1 side in the world in the quarter final !!!

It's a squeaky tight RWC this time around.
I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.

The NZ public and media will go into meltdown if the ABs lose. The Fern will implode...

Not a loss vs SA in a pool match.

On the other hand, Ireland or especially Scotland or Japan in a quarter final...

[sparky]

@Billy-Tell If the ABs lose a Rugby World Cup Quarter Final to Scotland or Japan, there will bigger meltdown on this forum than there was in Chernobyl on April 26th 1986.

[sparky]

@Machpants said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@sparky said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

99th time the All Blacks will have play the Old Foe.

That's pretty cool.

So possible for the 100th on the biggest stage.

That, my friend, would be a storyline from Boys-own.
Which, if the case, and given that they will be the underdogs, of course means the Boks win the RWC

Nah Buff Boks are def favourites

"Too much weights, not enough speed work....."

[ACT Crusader]

The reaction will be interesting given we’ve never lost a pool game at any RWC. Hansen will cop it big time I reckon

[Donsteppa]

@sparky said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Tell If the ABs lose a Rugby World Cup Quarter Final to Scotland or Japan, there will bigger meltdown on this forum than there was in Chernobyl on April 26th 1986.

By the end of the year anarchy would have descended, and @Canerbry will have formed a breakaway Southern republic.

[Crucial]

@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

Hmmm. Is there a difference between a typhoon, cyclone and hurricane?

This a crucial question!

I’m not a meteorologist

[taniwharugby]

@Billy-Tell think Hurricanes and cyclones are based on the hemisphere of origin, as to a typhoon, not sure if there is something different again or just called that in the region.

edit, asked old mate Google

The only difference between a hurricane, a cyclone, and a typhoon is the location where the storm occurs. ... In the Atlantic and Northeast Pacific, the term “hurricane” is used. The same type of disturbance in the Northwest Pacific is called a “typhoon” and “cyclones” occur in the South Pacific and Indian Ocean

[mariner4life]

fuck cyclones

[Snowy]

@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.

Edit: see that you have edited!

[taniwharugby]

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of cour

assume the cyclic nature of them differs by hemisphere too (much like water down a drain)

[Chris B.]

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Crazy-Horse said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@cgrant said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

If the ABs lose this game, it shouldtn't be a disaster as the Boks would then face England in the semi final.

@Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

But we would have to face the number 1 side in the world in the quarter final !!!

It's a squeaky tight RWC this time around.
I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.

The NZ public and media will go into meltdown if the ABs lose. The Fern will implode...

Let me be so presumptuous as to speak on behalf of New Zealanders and the Fern: Nah, I think you're wrong.

There won't be dancing in the streets, but there won't be wailing and gnashing of teeth either.

Hmmm, I think there will be a bit of wailing and gnashing.

Look at what happened after the loss to Oz.

Hansen's innumerable selection errors will be highlighted.

Whoever played on the wing will be culpable. The midfield selections will be wrong - and the lack of combination developed an appalling oversight. The two pivots theory a disaster - need out best first five playing first five and our best fullback playing fullback. Playing two opensides will be ridiculous. Either Barrett or Tuipolotou should have started, but both of them are sacks of shit and we are fucked without Brodie. Crazy leaving Owen Franks at home and Joe Moody cannot catch a cold. Taylor should have started with Coles on the bench (or vice-versa). Read is too old. Crotty and SBW too injury prone. About 12 of the squad are known mental defectives and most of the others have tits for hands.

[nzzp]

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.

Win and you get an easy Quarter against Scotland or Japan (most likely). Lose and it's Ireland (no 1 team in the world!) It will make a difference

[Donsteppa]

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.

Edit: see that you have edited!

We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

[Donsteppa]

@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Billy-Webb said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

I don't think either the Bok or AB camp see an easier side of the draw developing.
So while each team would desperately want to win the opening pool encounter, I don't think either will be devastated by a loss.

Win and you get an easy Quarter against Scotland or Japan (most likely). Lose and it's Ireland (no 1 team in the world!) It will make a difference

Yep. Win and we also maintain our unbeaten pool record over 32 years standing, with the added bonus of the All Blacks avoiding the wrath of Typhoon Silver Fern.

[Snowy]

@taniwharugby said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of cour

assume the cyclic nature of them differs by hemisphere too (much like water down a drain)

Indeed it does. Sth hemisphere clockwise, North anticlockwise. Should just go from high to low pressure but coriolis effect makes them effectively spin.

[Snowy]

@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.

Edit: see that you have edited!

We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

Welly doesn't even get cyclones as a rule - more ex tropical depressions, which would be a pretty shit name for a rugby team.

Flown through enough of them to seriously not like. Pretty cool going over the top of them though.

When does this RWC thing start? Met talk for two weeks is going to get a bit dull.

[Nepia]

@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.

Edit: see that you have edited!

We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

[Snowy]

@Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

@taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
Cyclones - South Pacific,
Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
Hurricanes Atlantic.

All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
Tornados are a different thing of course.

Edit: see that you have edited!

We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

Pretty much. As mentioned above they would be the "Wellington ex tropical depressions".

Going to make some posters names a bit long winded (yes). Ex tropical depression4life doesn't sound too good, nor ex tropical depression fan.