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RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
    Cyclones - South Pacific,
    Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
    Hurricanes Atlantic.

    All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
    Tornados are a different thing of course.

    Edit: see that you have edited!

    We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

    Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

    I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

    And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

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    #144

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

    @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
    Cyclones - South Pacific,
    Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
    Hurricanes Atlantic.

    All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
    Tornados are a different thing of course.

    Edit: see that you have edited!

    We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

    Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

    I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

    And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

    The Wellington Bicycle Clones?

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
      Cyclones - South Pacific,
      Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
      Hurricanes Atlantic.

      All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
      Tornados are a different thing of course.

      Edit: see that you have edited!

      We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

      Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

      I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

      And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

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      canefan
      wrote on last edited by
      #145

      @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

      @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
      Cyclones - South Pacific,
      Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
      Hurricanes Atlantic.

      All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
      Tornados are a different thing of course.

      Edit: see that you have edited!

      We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

      Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

      I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

      And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

      They could have called us the Capitals. And we've won the same number of titles as the Washington team of the same name too

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        #146

        Personally I absolutely LOVE the name Cylones and we should change for the next season

        alt text

        @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

        @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

        @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

        @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

        @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

        @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
        Cyclones - South Pacific,
        Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
        Hurricanes Atlantic.

        All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
        Tornados are a different thing of course.

        Edit: see that you have edited!

        We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

        Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

        I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

        And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

        The Wellington Bicycle Clones?

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
          Cyclones - South Pacific,
          Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
          Hurricanes Atlantic.

          All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
          Tornados are a different thing of course.

          Edit: see that you have edited!

          We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

          Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

          I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

          And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

          They could have called us the Capitals. And we've won the same number of titles as the Washington team of the same name too

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          #147

          @canefan said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

          @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
          Cyclones - South Pacific,
          Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
          Hurricanes Atlantic.

          All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
          Tornados are a different thing of course.

          Edit: see that you have edited!

          We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

          Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

          I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

          And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

          They could have called us the Capitals. And we've won the same number of titles as the Washington team of the same name too

          From their biggest supporter Lonefan... 🙂

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            @Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115727212/rugby-world-cup-richie-mounga-to-be-fully-fit-and-available-for-cup-opener

            Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.

            Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.

            I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back

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            #148

            @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            @No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            @Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115727212/rugby-world-cup-richie-mounga-to-be-fully-fit-and-available-for-cup-opener

            Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.

            Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.

            I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back

            For the game plan we seem to want to play I don’t think he is our best fullback. Still a quality player but I think the extra pace of both Beauden and Mo’unga is critical.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115727212/rugby-world-cup-richie-mounga-to-be-fully-fit-and-available-for-cup-opener

              Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.

              Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.

              I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back

              For the game plan we seem to want to play I don’t think he is our best fullback. Still a quality player but I think the extra pace of both Beauden and Mo’unga is critical.

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              #149

              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @No-Quarter said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              @Tim said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/115727212/rugby-world-cup-richie-mounga-to-be-fully-fit-and-available-for-cup-opener

              Start him at first 5 with BB on the bench and Smith at Full Back.

              Given some of his deer in the headlights performances this year I’d have him on the bench for impact if Smith is at 15. He’s done really well off the bench for the ABs in the past.

              I would be happy with that. I'm just against Smith starting but out of position. I still believe he is our best full back

              For the game plan we seem to want to play I don’t think he is our best fullback. Still a quality player but I think the extra pace of both Beauden and Mo’unga is critical.

              Depends if we want safe and steady in the first half and then fast paced in the 2nd half.

              Given we are highly unlikely to run teams off their feet in the first half, I prefer Smith at 15 and Beauden at 10 to start the test, then putting the dual playmaker role into action to finish the game.

              I also have big concerns about Mo'unga starting when the heat is really on. He hasn't done well when our pack is on the back foot thus far in his career; think he is better utilised from the bench.

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              • M Machpants

                Personally I absolutely LOVE the name Cylones and we should change for the next season

                alt text

                @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
                Cyclones - South Pacific,
                Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
                Hurricanes Atlantic.

                All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
                Tornados are a different thing of course.

                Edit: see that you have edited!

                We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

                Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

                I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

                And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

                The Wellington Bicycle Clones?

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                Nepia
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                #150

                @Machpants said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                Personally I absolutely LOVE the name Cylones and we should change for the next season

                alt text

                @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Billy-Tell said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Nepia said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Donsteppa said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @Snowy said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                @taniwharugby Oceans (roughly) or regions.
                Cyclones - South Pacific,
                Typhoons North West Pacific, Indian,
                Hurricanes Atlantic.

                All the same thing a severe depression usually formed in the tropics but obviously they move out side of that zone.
                Tornados are a different thing of course.

                Edit: see that you have edited!

                We should campaign for the Hurricanes to change their name to more accurately reflect the South Pacific...

                Those mad buggers that fly into Hurricanes to study them must enjoy turbulence...

                I assume it's just the same as flying into Wellington Airport in the city where the Wellington Cyclones rugby team is based.

                And the cool chant at matches: Cy-cl-ones, Cy-cl-ones.

                The Wellington Bicycle Clones?

                I think some people will be disappointed you didn't post this Cylon.

                alt text

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                  #151

                  I hope they go with the same starting 15 as Bledisloe 2 with Smith and Jacobson on the bench instead of Jordie B and Todd.

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                    #152

                    Luke Jacobson out of World Cup - Shannon Frizell in

                    Luke Jacobson to miss Rugby World Cup 2019

                    All Blacks loose forward Luke Jacobson is to miss the Rugby World Cup in Japan, after suffering a delayed onset of concussion, it was announced today.

                    All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said the 22-year-old had not presented with any signs of concussion after the Test against Tonga last week but developed symptoms after the first training session this week.

                    "After discussing this latest episode with Luke, as well as our medical team, the decision has been made to, sadly, withdraw him from the Tournament.

                    "We all felt that the best thing for him to do is to take a break from rugby until he is symptom-free and ready to return to rugby.

                    "While it was a tough conversation to have, ultimately it was a very simple decision. We have a duty of care to look after our players and Luke's health is the most important thing above anything else."

                    Hansen added: "Luke's a young man with a hugely promising career ahead of him and I'm sure he'll get the chance to play at other Rugby World Cups in the future."

                    Luke Jacobson said: "I'm gutted to be missing the Rugby World Cup. However, I completely understand that this decision has been made with my health and best interests at heart. Whilst I'm feeling 98 percent okay, I know I'm still not quite right and by taking a break now, I'll give myself the opportunity to continue my career in the future. I wish the team all the very best and will be with them all the way."

                    Hansen said the team were all feeling for Luke and were supporting him. He will stay with the group until he is symptom-free and ready to fly home.

                    Ta$man loose forward Shannon Frizell has been called in and will arrive in Japan on Saturday. Hansen said loose forwards Vaea Fifita and Dalton Papalii weren't considered for selection because they are currently injured.

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                    • Number 10N Number 10

                      Luke Jacobson out of World Cup - Shannon Frizell in

                      Luke Jacobson to miss Rugby World Cup 2019

                      All Blacks loose forward Luke Jacobson is to miss the Rugby World Cup in Japan, after suffering a delayed onset of concussion, it was announced today.

                      All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said the 22-year-old had not presented with any signs of concussion after the Test against Tonga last week but developed symptoms after the first training session this week.

                      "After discussing this latest episode with Luke, as well as our medical team, the decision has been made to, sadly, withdraw him from the Tournament.

                      "We all felt that the best thing for him to do is to take a break from rugby until he is symptom-free and ready to return to rugby.

                      "While it was a tough conversation to have, ultimately it was a very simple decision. We have a duty of care to look after our players and Luke's health is the most important thing above anything else."

                      Hansen added: "Luke's a young man with a hugely promising career ahead of him and I'm sure he'll get the chance to play at other Rugby World Cups in the future."

                      Luke Jacobson said: "I'm gutted to be missing the Rugby World Cup. However, I completely understand that this decision has been made with my health and best interests at heart. Whilst I'm feeling 98 percent okay, I know I'm still not quite right and by taking a break now, I'll give myself the opportunity to continue my career in the future. I wish the team all the very best and will be with them all the way."

                      Hansen said the team were all feeling for Luke and were supporting him. He will stay with the group until he is symptom-free and ready to fly home.

                      Ta$man loose forward Shannon Frizell has been called in and will arrive in Japan on Saturday. Hansen said loose forwards Vaea Fifita and Dalton Papalii weren't considered for selection because they are currently injured.

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                      #153

                      @Number-10 that is stink as.

                      Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

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                        #154

                        oh wow, how gutting for him!!

                        Was such a meteoric rise, to have this happen!! Gotta feel for him!

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Number-10 that is stink as.

                          Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

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                          #155

                          @Bones said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                          @Number-10 that is stink as.

                          Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

                          Shiit. That's pretty unlucky to not even make it to the first game.

                          Odds on Frizell tearing it up at RWC - lower than the odds that he would have torn it up in the M10 Cup.

                          I'm pretty doubtful that we'll see much of him outside the minnow matches - barring injuries.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Bones said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                            @Number-10 that is stink as.

                            Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

                            Shiit. That's pretty unlucky to not even make it to the first game.

                            Odds on Frizell tearing it up at RWC - lower than the odds that he would have torn it up in the M10 Cup.

                            I'm pretty doubtful that we'll see much of him outside the minnow matches - barring injuries.

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                            @Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                            @Bones said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                            @Number-10 that is stink as.

                            Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

                            Shiit. That's pretty unlucky to not even make it to the first game.

                            Odds on Frizell tearing it up at RWC - lower than the odds that he would have torn it up in the M10 Cup.

                            I'm pretty doubtful that we'll see much of him outside the minnow matches - barring injuries.

                            So Todd is your bench man for the big games?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                              @Bones said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                              @Number-10 that is stink as.

                              Odds on Frizell absolutely tearing it up at RWC now? I reckon a duo of him and Savea running off each other could be quite damaging...

                              Shiit. That's pretty unlucky to not even make it to the first game.

                              Odds on Frizell tearing it up at RWC - lower than the odds that he would have torn it up in the M10 Cup.

                              I'm pretty doubtful that we'll see much of him outside the minnow matches - barring injuries.

                              So Todd is your bench man for the big games?

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                              #157

                              @Bones Yep - certainly looks that way.

                              Todd and Barrett.

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                                #158

                                Gutted. Big difference in physicality between Todd and Jacobson.

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                                • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                  Gutted. Big difference in physicality between Todd and Jacobson.

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                                  #159

                                  @mofitzy_ I'd really hoped for a physically imposing specimen, not sure Frizzell is the answer, but he is part of the squad and I will back him. Love for him to prove me wrong.

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @Bones Yep - certainly looks that way.

                                    Todd and Barrett.

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                                    @Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                                    @Bones Yep - certainly looks that way.

                                    Todd and Barrett.

                                    So much meh right there

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                                      #161

                                      Forecast for Yokohama for next Saturday evening is heavy rain.

                                      Team I'd pick to take on the Boks:

                                      Moody, Coles, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Savea, Cane, Read, A.Smith, B.Barrett, Ioane, Crotty, ALB, Bridge, B.Smith.
                                      Bench: Taylor, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Todd, TJP, Mo'unga, Goodhue

                                      Against the Boks, it's all going to be about physicality, discipline, composure and ruthlessly taking opportunities.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        Forecast for Yokohama for next Saturday evening is heavy rain.

                                        Team I'd pick to take on the Boks:

                                        Moody, Coles, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Savea, Cane, Read, A.Smith, B.Barrett, Ioane, Crotty, ALB, Bridge, B.Smith.
                                        Bench: Taylor, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Todd, TJP, Mo'unga, Goodhue

                                        Against the Boks, it's all going to be about physicality, discipline, composure and ruthlessly taking opportunities.

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                                        #162

                                        @sparky got to win the battle up front

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          Forecast for Yokohama for next Saturday evening is heavy rain.

                                          Team I'd pick to take on the Boks:

                                          Moody, Coles, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Savea, Cane, Read, A.Smith, B.Barrett, Ioane, Crotty, ALB, Bridge, B.Smith.
                                          Bench: Taylor, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Todd, TJP, Mo'unga, Goodhue

                                          Against the Boks, it's all going to be about physicality, discipline, composure and ruthlessly taking opportunities.

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                                          @sparky said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:

                                          Against the Boks, it's all going to be about physicality, discipline, composure and ruthlessly taking opportunities.

                                          As opposed to other sides, where we need not worry about those things? That's some top level analysis you have going there!

                                          I reckon it's even simpler than "physicality, discipline, composure and ruthlessly taking opportunities". In my experience putting points on the board is the key.

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