RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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Short thoughts:
So much precision in the AB play - hardly any mistakes. Handling really impressive
Crotty didn't go off injured
BB at 15 is lethal on counter-attack
AB defence was outstanding. Ritchie has serious wheels
Bridge and Reece or BFA & Reiko. Who'd be an opposition coach?SA 11 & 14 look real class
Kolisi is a good captain - kept his team together when it could have fallen apartLike the way the ref let the game flow.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Short thoughts:
So much precision in the AB play - hardly any mistakes. Handling really impressive
Crotty didn't go off injured
BB at 15 is lethal on counter-attack
AB defence was outstanding. Ritchie has serious wheels
Bridge and Reece or BFA & Reiko. Who'd be an opposition coach?SA 11 & 14 look real class
Kolisi is a good captain - kept his team together when it could have fallen apartLike the way the ref let the game flow.
Glass half full?
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Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@ACT-Crusader tucked his elbow. What is it with Barretts and shoulders?
They've got two each?
@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@ACT-Crusader tucked his elbow. What is it with Barretts and shoulders?
They've got two each?
Ok, thats enough internet for you.
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@MadGav said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@booboo if you thought we could dominate these boks you need your head read.
Dominate? No. From where do you assume my insanity?
@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
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@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
I enjoy seeing clowns like that thrashwanking about refs favouring us .
The comments on the BBC website are a real hoot. Still banging on about Umaga & O'Cudda Doided.
But the winner has to be the clown who tells us the "New Zealand Rugby Team did a long Harka to intimidate Garces".
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
I enjoy seeing clowns like that thrashwanking about refs favouring us .
The comments on the BBC website are a real hoot. Still banging on about Umaga & O'Cudda Doided.
But the winner has to be the clown who tells us the "New Zealand Rugby Team did a long Harka to intimidate Garces".
Really? Brilliant!
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@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
I remember a similar thing when England toured just after the 03 WC , all the talk was about their big monster pack ,
We were bigger man for man in every position except kevvie at hooker.
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@Toddy said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@NTA What's your call NTA? Penalty only?
Reckon @NTA thinks Mo'unga should have been Red Carded for holding on.
@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Toddy said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@NTA What's your call NTA? Penalty only?
Reckon @NTA thinks Mo'unga should have been Red Carded for holding on.
Nah, he's not a Barrett
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Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
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@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
@KiwiPie said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
That's a different issue.
I wasn't sure. Not do clear. He would be put onside once a ball carrier runs 5m with the ball in hand.
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@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@booboo I like how they still mention the 'big Bokke pack' yet our pack was bigger...getting much like 'French flair' and the 'Argentine scrum'
For all the shit Scott Barrett has copped, he stood up big time.
All weights, not enough speed work
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Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Of course also extended the length of time the ball was in play and you could see that starting to drain legs. Cue traditional Bok counter-tactic of regular injury breaks and taking 2 hours to form a lineout.
As much as Scott Barrett had a very good spell at flanker, I thought ABs didn't control breakdown as effectively without Cane on the field in second half, and that made it closer.
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Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Mr Dry Powder says hi.
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Saying a ref favours the ABs is pretty disrespectful to all of the professional refs. For starters that Barnes game and the Lions non offside penalty are two howlers that cost us big time.
Tbh I think it’s swings and roundabouts, If I gave a bigger fuck I would go through the game and highlight the poor calls against the ABs. From what I remember the penalty against Whitelock for interfering in the lineout was a shocker, in replay he makes an effort to avoid the bok lock.
I think the penalty was against Patty T who took a lifter out. But you never know with Garces.
One non-call that pissed me off was a high tackle on Ardie where the Bok player had him in a headlock.
@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Saying a ref favours the ABs is pretty disrespectful to all of the professional refs. For starters that Barnes game and the Lions non offside penalty are two howlers that cost us big time.
Tbh I think it’s swings and roundabouts, If I gave a bigger fuck I would go through the game and highlight the poor calls against the ABs. From what I remember the penalty against Whitelock for interfering in the lineout was a shocker, in replay he makes an effort to avoid the bok lock.
I think the penalty was against Patty T who took a lifter out. But you never know with Garces.
One non-call that pissed me off was a high tackle on Ardie where the Bok player had him in a headlock.
Just watching the highlights on Fox.
Definitely got the impression Faeces signalled it against Sam.
And there was absolutely no contact initiated by the ABs. Pat T was lifting in front of SW and the Boks dropped their jumper on him.
Back to being a bullshit decision.
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@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
@KiwiPie said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Just read elsewhere the officials missed the clear knock on by Kolbe when he throws ball forward before going into touch, BB runs it out from goal line and subsequent play we pass it to the SA player in our backline. Should have been our advantage and back for knock on.
No way. Advantage was well and truly over by the time of the intercept.
But surely the "intercept" was made by a guy who was still running back from an offside position from the previous ruck? In fact most of the SA defence was offside ....
On replay I reckon we had gone forward enough that he had actually got behind the line of the hindmost foot.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Mr Dry Powder says hi.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Watched the game again , that helter skelter looking start from us ,
Although it looked messy, is there a definitive ploy to move the game away from structure where most of our rivals are more comfortable, and deliberately make it more chaotic to take them out of their comfort zones.
Mr Dry Powder says hi.
Great how we just turn the jets on for 20 minutes or so, just to give the opposition a taste of the powder, then put it away again
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@chimoaus I thought world rugby had said they would be onto players getting in a strong position over the ball but not actually trying to win it.
I saw plenty of shit Garces missed that would have helped us, so I expect he missed a ton the other way too, which SA fans and those with the anti-AB-chip will only see....
All in all, that was as you would expect between these 2 sides, some nerves, some brutal defence, some messy stuff but largely quality.
@taniwharugby bang on. French refs are like the weather and the bounce of the ball: if you lose cause they didn’t go your way, you weren’t good enough.
