RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)
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@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
That's fair but I think the bastards may have one big game left in them.
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
That's fair but I think the bastards may have one big game left in them.
If losing to Japan isn't a big game, then I don't know what is.
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@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
That's fair but I think the bastards may have one big game left in them.
If losing to Japan isn't a big game, then I don't know what is.
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@Paekakboyz said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones only big in retrospect
Hindsight aye!
How hot was it btw?
I'd say with 20 minutes to go isn't exactly looking back!
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@voodoo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
If we win this thing after beating the Boks, the Irish, the Poms, then the Boks again, then we well and truly deserve it.
No.
The refs favour us and the haka intimidates our opponents, remember.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@voodoo said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
If we win this thing after beating the Boks, the Irish, the Poms, then the Boks again, then we well and truly deserve it.
No.
The refs favour us and the haka intimidates our opponents, remember.
My bad
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@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
That's fair but I think the bastards may have one big game left in them.
If losing to Japan isn't a big game, then I don't know what is.
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
That's fair but I think the bastards may have one big game left in them.
If losing to Japan isn't a big game, then I don't know what is.
A Friendly? :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
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@Paekakboyz said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Bones only big in retrospect
Hindsight aye!
How hot was it btw?
I'd say with 20 minutes to go isn't exactly looking back!
@Bones I think they'd have still backed themselves at that point. Misguided confidence in the end! Luck of the Irish was out on the sakes tonight!
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@PecoTrain I doubt Japan and Scotland believe they can beat us. Ireland definitely do. People writing off Ireland have obviously forgotten what happened in Dublin last year.
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@PecoTrain I doubt Japan and Scotland believe they can beat us. Ireland definitely do. People writing off Ireland have obviously forgotten what happened in Dublin last year.
Bring it on.
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@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
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Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful
@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Apparently BOD was a pundit on the Irish coverage and didn't take the result well. If anyone has the footage and can post it I will be eternally grateful
You’re a sick sick man @jegga
Would also welcome said coverage
Some of his comments are reported here
https://www.the42.ie/brian-odriscoll-ireland-japan-reaction-4828699-Sep2019/ -
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
As we know France are the great enigma when it comes to world cups.
Ireland’s 4th loss this year and their work at the ruck has been exposed (again).
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@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.
@Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.
I think they're farked if they play the Boks, but they know they have the right plan to beat us - all they have to do is lay it all on the line and execute. Either way, they're not winning it from here. As I said, they won't beat the Boks and, even if they do beat us (which they may very well do), they won't be able to get up again for England in the semi.
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@Paekakboyz said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Ireland can still finish top no? Even if they end up evens with Japan on wins they can pip them on bonus points if (if) they deal to Samoa and Russia.
Not if Japan win their remaining games.
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Paekakboyz said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Ireland can still finish top no? Even if they end up evens with Japan on wins they can pip them on bonus points if (if) they deal to Samoa and Russia.
Not if Japan win their remaining games
Despite tonight’s historical win, that does have some risk to it.
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@Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.
I think they're farked if they play the Boks, but they know they have the right plan to beat us - all they have to do is lay it all on the line and execute. Either way, they're not winning it from here. As I said, they won't beat the Boks and, even if they do beat us (which they may very well do), they won't be able to get up again for England in the semi.
@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.
I think they're farked if they play the Boks, but they know they have the right plan to beat us - all they have to do is lay it all on the line and execute. Either way, they're not winning it from here. As I said, they won't beat the Boks and, even if they do beat us (which they may very well do), they won't be able to get up again for England in the semi.
Do they? We aren’t playing the same way we did when they got us in Dublin. Plus all the pressure of never making a semi will play on them.
Bring it on.
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As an Irish(ish)man I hope that Ireland will go through regardless, although they need to wake up and smell the coffee after that showing. I'm just so stoked for Japan. I've always been a fan of the Brave Blossoms. Call me a sentimental old fool, but I just love the way they play: a lot of skill, speed, precision and total courage. Best result for the tournament too, of course.
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@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
Or lost to Tonga in 2011.
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Massively inconvinient from a QF perspective. No doubts we can beat Ireland, but winning three big games in a row is different than two. The draw just may have opened up for the Boks 2007 style.
@rotated said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Massively inconvinient from a QF perspective. No doubts we can beat Ireland, but winning three big games in a row is different than two. The draw just may have opened up for the Boks 2007 style.
Yeah - I'd imagine the only people more delighted than the Jaapies will be the Japanese. I doubt England will mind it much either.
Shit result for Scotland, Ireland and us.
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@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
@Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will won it.
I don't see it as being one game, not very genuine to say that. Ireland have been on the decline all year.
Yeah, that's true. But, a bit like the Wobs in 2003, I'm sure they've got one more big performance in them.
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@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
As we know France are the great enigma when it comes to world cups.
Ireland’s 4th loss this year and their work at the ruck has been exposed (again).
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?
Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.
Are you really concerned after seeing that?
I wasn’t concerned after seeing Argentine beat France in 2007...
As we know France are the great enigma when it comes to world cups.
Ireland’s 4th loss this year and their work at the ruck has been exposed (again).
That's all true, but I think they'll have nothing to lose against us, will know that their game plan works against us and, therefore, be 1000 time more committed and tenacious than they were today. On top of that, we'll need to just as - if not more - disciplined than the excellent japanese were. We'll need to be great at the set pieces and under the high ball. Also, unlike Japan, we will not have all of world rugby behind us and what 50/50 refereeing calls are made are, therefore, less likely to be made in our favour.
In short, it's gonna a hell of a tough test match for us
