RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C)
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@MrDenmore bullshit. That's a red card for as long as I've been playing.
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore bullshit. That's a red card for as long as I've been playing.
See.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones I don’t care. It’s a stupid system.
No. No it's not.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore bullshit. That's a red card for as long as I've been playing.
See.
@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore bullshit. That's a red card for as long as I've been playing.
See.
Not that long...
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.
No it's not. We should probably remove penalties from the game too right? Why punish teams and punish the paying public!
I'm also the paying public and I'm more than happy with what happened. Players carrying out foul play like that should be punished on the pitch.
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@Bones Well good for you Bones. I’m sure you’ll be there at the end cheering on as referees, paranoid about losing their jobs, hand red cards out like parking tickets. What a spectacle, eh?
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones Well good for you Bones. I’m sure you’ll be there at the end cheering on as referees, paranoid about losing their jobs, hand red cards out like parking tickets. What a spectacle, eh?
You're wrong.
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Red card , should be 10mins likes yellow, but a that player is ejected (and off the judiciary) and a replacement can come on 10mins later.
Red cards ruin the game.@Quo-vadis said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
Red card , should be 10mins likes yellow, but a that player is ejected (and off the judiciary) and a replacement can come on 10mins later.
Red cards ruin the game.So don't act like a fucking psycho on the field and get sent off.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones I don’t care. It’s a stupid system.
Haha sure it is. Lavanini should have been commended.
I'm surprised that Nigel Owens didn't count the fact it was on Owen Farrell as a mitigating factor :man_shrugging:
@Anonymous said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones I don’t care. It’s a stupid system.
Haha sure it is. Lavanini should have been commended.
I'm surprised that Nigel Owens didn't count the fact it was on Owen Farrell as a mitigating factor :man_shrugging:
This though
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
This is the problem with modern life.
Let's look at the effect, not the cause.
This is very simple to eradicate.
Start your tackle at the waist.
This is about poor tackling technique.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.
The problem isn't the cards.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
This is all about World Rugby’s lawyers and the fear of litigation. You can sit around and nod sagely about safety, but they’re not doing this because they care about the players. They’re doing it because they don’t want to be sued. But they’ll destroy the game in the process and piss off the advertisers. When games are wrecked by refereeing decisions you have a dud product. People won’t pay to watch it. I paid a fortune for tickets to the Wales-France semi-final in 2011 and was ropable when Warburton was sent off. There has to be a better system.
Bullshit.
That was a straight shot to the head.
That was a send off in my day.
@booboo Yes, I’m sure it was a send-off in your day when you were playing for the St Peter’s under-15s. But this is professional sport at the highest level. It’s big business. You just can’t have a game destroyed as a spectacle because one player made a high tackle. I’m sorry, but this is just commercial reality. You can argue about it all you want. But you need to separate out your undoubted and admirable love for the the sport and its status as paid entertainment. There are sanctions available for foul play. They are monetary.
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@Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.
Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.
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@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Bullshit. Sue Lavinini
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@booboo Yes, I’m sure it was a send-off in your day when you were playing for the St Peter’s under-15s. But this is professional sport at the highest level. It’s big business. You just can’t have a game destroyed as a spectacle because one player made a high tackle. I’m sorry, but this is just commercial reality. You can argue about it all you want. But you need to separate out your undoubted and admirable love for the the sport and its status as paid entertainment. There are sanctions available for foul play. They are monetary.
@MrDenmore Hey now I played for the St Peter's under 15s back in the day....
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I thought the Red Card was fair.
England playing well. Disciplined,slick and athletic outfit. I could easily see them winning the competition.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.
Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.
@booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.
Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.
The only issue with the current system is, if you're a fuckwit in the 1st minute your team suffers for 79 minutes, but if it's the 80th minute it's only for 1 minute.
Fuckwits need equality! :man_raising_hand_light_skin_tone:
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@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
This is the problem with modern life.
Let's look at the effect, not the cause.
This is very simple to eradicate.
Start your tackle at the waist.
This is about poor tackling technique.
Nothing more, nothing less.
@MiketheSnow An extension of your argument. Don’t cheat on your tax returns (but people do). The fact is the incentives in professional sport are now at a level that players are going to break laws to win. It’s why Lance Armstrong won all those Tours de France denying he was drug enhanced when he was. It’s money that drives players at this level to infringe. Rugby wants to pretend it’s still an amateur sport. It isn’t. It’s big business. I’m not arguing that players should be put in peril for our entertainment. But. I’m saying if the sanctions system destroys the game as spectacle, the money won’t flow. Kearns is right. It will kill the sport.
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@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.
The problem isn't the cards.
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.
The problem isn't the cards.
You’re being totally ridiculous now.
The point is red cards get dished out every second or third game nowadays, so do we really want to see 1/3 of rugby games decided by red cards?
I don’t, and I suspect thousands of other people don’t. People will stop watching, simple as that.
