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RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B)

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

    I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

    I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

    @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

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    @No-Quarter But in this day and age, I'd imagine 90 percent of people have pre-paid holiday accommodation and will turn up there anyway.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @No-Quarter But in this day and age, I'd imagine 90 percent of people have pre-paid holiday accommodation and will turn up there anyway.

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      @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

      @No-Quarter But in this day and age, I'd imagine 90 percent of people have pre-paid holiday accommodation and will turn up there anyway.

      That's true, and, further to that I'd say given Japan's population size absorbing a few thousand fans wouldn't be a massive deal overall. So yup, I'm stumped.

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        Well that’s another 80 mins lost for Ioane to play himself into form ...

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        @MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

        Well that’s another 80 mins lost for Ioane to play himself into form ...

        And Brodie for match fitness, unfortunately...

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        • SiamS Siam

          @MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

          Well that’s another 80 mins lost for Ioane to play himself into form ...

          And Brodie for match fitness, unfortunately...

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          @Siam that is a genuine shame, that one

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

            I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

            I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

            @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

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            @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

            @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

            I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

            I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

            @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

            I think they are worried about the travel - trains will probably get shut down, so many ppl might not be able to make it to venues. Nevertheless, I don't see why that should influence them to cancel games two days out.

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              Yeah it's a bit wierd citing concern for fans who've already committed to this game(s) then devise that the solution here, for the fans is to deny them of what they're there for.

              Wonder how many times the phrase "law suit" came up in their meetings to cancel games a full 48 hours before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

              I'm obviously still in denial phase...

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              • SiamS Siam

                Yeah it's a bit wierd citing concern for fans who've already committed to this game(s) then devise that the solution here, for the fans is to deny them of what they're there for.

                Wonder how many times the phrase "law suit" came up in their meetings to cancel games a full 48 hours before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                I'm obviously still in denial phase...

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                @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

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                  @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                  They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

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                  @Snowy yep, that's the million dollar question - is it too late onto make the call at 6am on match day?

                  me thinks that would cost more logistical and set up money (if cancelled on the day) than 2 days out...

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

                    I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

                    @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

                    I think they are worried about the travel - trains will probably get shut down, so many ppl might not be able to make it to venues. Nevertheless, I don't see why that should influence them to cancel games two days out.

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                    @gt12 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    I honestly don't know why they've felt the necessity to cancel the games two days before they're due to be played. Why wouldn't you just say we're very worried and there's a strong prospect that we may need to cancel and we'll make a decision at 10am on game day?

                    I can't recall a cricket match ever being cancelled before it was due to start.

                    @gt12 might be able to comment on what usually happens in Japan but my only guess is they didn't want lots of extra people in cities that were meant to be in lock down and/or evacuated. Agree it seems crazy to just flat out cancel it this far out.

                    I think they are worried about the travel - trains will probably get shut down, so many ppl might not be able to make it to venues. Nevertheless, I don't see why that should influence them to cancel games two days out.

                    Just to add to this, there are probably people traveling on the morning or evening of these games, so by canceling now they’ll avoid having some people without accommodation or missing further events if games did get cancelled on the day.

                    That’s pretty weak sauce, but I have seen two or three posts on social media from ppl talking about how they can now cancel their Shinkansen tickets etc. so, the decisions looks like one to give clarity to local fans and those traveling between matches (eg, I have a friend who was meant to be at one QF in Tokyo and one in Oita with a morning flight in between).

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                      @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                      @Billy-Tell Especially for Parisse, as he was going to play his last game vs the ABs. He also made his debut against the ABs in 2002 so that would have been a great story.

                      A 17 year pro career is nothing to sneeze at, even for @MN5

                      Shame he didn’t get that first and last moment. ABs probably would’ve given him a nice send off on the field after the game too.

                      And to complete the connection, Parisse's first game for Italy at a RWC was in 2003 against......NZ. I was at that test in Melbourne.

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                      @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                      @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                      @Billy-Tell Especially for Parisse, as he was going to play his last game vs the ABs. He also made his debut against the ABs in 2002 so that would have been a great story.

                      A 17 year pro career is nothing to sneeze at, even for @MN5

                      Shame he didn’t get that first and last moment. ABs probably would’ve given him a nice send off on the field after the game too.

                      And to complete the connection, Parisse's first game for Italy at a RWC was in 2003 against......NZ. I was at that test in Melbourne.

                      Me too. Tough night watching Umaga get injured.

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                        I have some sympathy for the fans as my travel plans were interrupted by the last typhoon two weeks ago in Nagasaki. And the year before two while I was in the Ryukus.

                        So multiply my issues by something in the vicinity of 300,000 fans at a guess.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                          before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                          They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

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                          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                          @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                          before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                          They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

                          Also, for the benefit of the travelling fans, if you cancel the day of the match, they'll already be in the city and have accommodation sorted. However, now travelling fans have to cancel their existing travel and accommodation plans, find new accommodation where they are currently situated - which might not be available - and find safe shelter.

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                            @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                            @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                            before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                            They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

                            Also, for the benefit of the travelling fans, if you cancel the day of the match, they'll already be in the city and have accommodation sorted. However, now travelling fans have to cancel their existing travel and accommodation plans, find new accommodation where they are currently situated - which might not be available - and find safe shelter.

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                            @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                            @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                            @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                            before seeing what the weather was like on the day?

                            They really could look like idiots - chances are they won't - but if I had gone all the way there, had tickets, paid for a hotel- the weather is O.K. I would be demanding some answers. I am already, as this just seems dumb. Do it on the morning of the match.

                            Also, for the benefit of the travelling fans, if you cancel the day of the match, they'll already be in the city and have accommodation sorted. However, now travelling fans have to cancel their existing travel and accommodation plans, find new accommodation where they are currently situated - which might not be available - and find safe shelter.

                            Seems like a total clusterfuck of a situation, the simplest solution would have been to wait until the last minute. There was no plan B to have to fall back on early

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                              Fuck the travelling fans. They can piss it up at in front of a telly like the plebs,

                              AND have a great "where were you when..." story!

                              I want my Saturday rugby day back!!😠

                              I wanna watch me boys at the world cup!

                              Bah!

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                                Italy did well.
                                Defence was rock solid in holding the ABs to a nil all draw.

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                                  Italy did well.
                                  Defence was rock solid in holding the ABs to a nil all draw.

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                                  @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                  Italy did well.
                                  Defence was rock solid in holding the ABs to a nil all draw.

                                  And their attack and ability to put points on the board was on par with most of their tests over the past few years....

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                                  • SiamS Siam

                                    Fuck the travelling fans. They can piss it up at in front of a telly like the plebs,

                                    AND have a great "where were you when..." story!

                                    I want my Saturday rugby day back!!😠

                                    I wanna watch me boys at the world cup!

                                    Bah!

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                                    @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                    Fuck the travelling fans. They can piss it up at in front of a telly like the plebs,

                                    AND have a great "where were you when..." story!

                                    I want my Saturday rugby day back!!😠

                                    I wanna watch me boys at the world cup!

                                    Bah!

                                    I'm one of the travellin' fans, and I completely agree.
                                    I was looking forward very much to an 8-hour rugby marathon, sitting in a pub, with lethal-level winds/rain outside. And now... I get Ireland vs Samoa. And that's it. Bullshit.
                                    Fingers very much crossed that Japan-Scotland goes ahead, as that's gotta be awesome. With a capital "O".

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                                      From Daily Telegraph

                                      In a development that seems sure to cloud the rest of the tournament and have ramifications way into the future, insiders claim that the match between the All Blacks and Italy could have been postponed until Monday, but that the All Blacks were not willing to consider a turnaround of just five days between their final pool game and their quarter-final, which is due to be played on Saturday 19th October.

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                                        From Daily Telegraph

                                        In a development that seems sure to cloud the rest of the tournament and have ramifications way into the future, insiders claim that the match between the All Blacks and Italy could have been postponed until Monday, but that the All Blacks were not willing to consider a turnaround of just five days between their final pool game and their quarter-final, which is due to be played on Saturday 19th October.

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                                        @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                        From Daily Telegraph

                                        In a development that seems sure to cloud the rest of the tournament and have ramifications way into the future, insiders claim that the match between the All Blacks and Italy could have been postponed until Monday, but that the All Blacks were not willing to consider a turnaround of just five days between their final pool game and their quarter-final, which is due to be played on Saturday 19th October.

                                        Stopped reading right there. Insiders claim ffs, so no actual evidence?

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                                          From Daily Telegraph

                                          In a development that seems sure to cloud the rest of the tournament and have ramifications way into the future, insiders claim that the match between the All Blacks and Italy could have been postponed until Monday, but that the All Blacks were not willing to consider a turnaround of just five days between their final pool game and their quarter-final, which is due to be played on Saturday 19th October.

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                                          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                          From Daily Telegraph

                                          In a development that seems sure to cloud the rest of the tournament and have ramifications way into the future, insiders claim that the match between the All Blacks and Italy could have been postponed until Monday, but that the All Blacks were not willing to consider a turnaround of just five days between their final pool game and their quarter-final, which is due to be played on Saturday 19th October.

                                          Had to be the All Blacks fault somehow.

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