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RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B)

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    #81

    I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

    Just seems to have lost that attacking ability that made him so dangerous, but have noticed an effort to lift his work rate, maybe that was something he had to work on ?

    The coaches will know more than us , who is in the better mental state etc

    Iโ€™m tipping bridge to continue getting selected over him at this point in time, just havenโ€™t seen enough to make them change it.

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    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

      I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

      Just seems to have lost that attacking ability that made him so dangerous, but have noticed an effort to lift his work rate, maybe that was something he had to work on ?

      The coaches will know more than us , who is in the better mental state etc

      Iโ€™m tipping bridge to continue getting selected over him at this point in time, just havenโ€™t seen enough to make them change it.

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      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

      I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

      and Reece too.

      But Savea's best was also awesome and then it wasn't, just like Reiko.

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

        I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

        and Reece too.

        But Savea's best was also awesome and then it wasn't, just like Reiko.

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        @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

        I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

        and Reece too.

        But Savea's best was also awesome and then it wasn't, just like Reiko.

        Tough audience! Rieko is 22; he's got 3-4 years before the AB Winger Age of Retirement. Agreed he's in a slump at the moment, but the NZRU don't dish out 5 year winger contracts unless they think he's got really special attributes. He's got time to climb back to the top, the issues are mental rather than physical.

        That said, while I'd be delighted to see him perform, I wouldn't be upset if we had Bridge/Reece. Hope to god Reece doesn't have a brain fart in defence and cost us a game. Haven't seen anything so far that is really concerning, but knockout can do funny things to people's heads.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

          I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

          and Reece too.

          But Savea's best was also awesome and then it wasn't, just like Reiko.

          Tough audience! Rieko is 22; he's got 3-4 years before the AB Winger Age of Retirement. Agreed he's in a slump at the moment, but the NZRU don't dish out 5 year winger contracts unless they think he's got really special attributes. He's got time to climb back to the top, the issues are mental rather than physical.

          That said, while I'd be delighted to see him perform, I wouldn't be upset if we had Bridge/Reece. Hope to god Reece doesn't have a brain fart in defence and cost us a game. Haven't seen anything so far that is really concerning, but knockout can do funny things to people's heads.

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          @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

          @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

          I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

          and Reece too.

          But Savea's best was also awesome and then it wasn't, just like Reiko.

          Tough audience! Rieko is 22; he's got 3-4 years before the AB Winger Age of Retirement. Agreed he's in a slump at the moment, but the NZRU don't dish out 5 year winger contracts unless they think he's got really special attributes. He's got time to climb back to the top, the issues are mental rather than physical.

          That said, while I'd be delighted to see him perform, I wouldn't be upset if we had Bridge/Reece. Hope to god Reece doesn't have a brain fart in defence and cost us a game. Haven't seen anything so far that is really concerning, but knockout can do funny things to people's heads.

          I agree with all of that but I don't think the pressure furnace of a world cup is the right place to try and find it.

          Probably needs a big holiday

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            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1182007824483676160?s=20

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            • sparkyS sparky

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1182007824483676160?s=20

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              @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1182007824483676160?s=20

              Thursday. Sanity prevails.

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                https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1182091427762753537

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @Frank No, it's an open stadium.

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                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                  @Frank No, it's an open stadium.

                  Google says it has a retractable roof?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1182091427762753537

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                    @KiwiMurph Wow - if we get knocked out early then this really will be the RWC that didn't happen.

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                    • UniteU Unite

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                      @Frank No, it's an open stadium.

                      Google says it has a retractable roof?

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                      @Unite said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                      @Frank No, it's an open stadium.

                      Google says it has a retractable roof?

                      Roof hasn't closed since 2015. Maintenance costs on it were too high, so it became an open-air stadium.

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                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1182117094172704768

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1182117152284803072

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @KiwiMurph Wow - if we get knocked out early then this really will be the RWC that didn't happen.

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                          @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                          @KiwiMurph Wow - if we get knocked out early then this really will be the RWC that didn't happen.

                          A draw would see us top the pool - or am I missing something?

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                            Knocked out in the QFs, SFs, etc I assume.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                              @KiwiMurph Wow - if we get knocked out early then this really will be the RWC that didn't happen.

                              A draw would see us top the pool - or am I missing something?

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                              @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                              Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                              Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

                                Just seems to have lost that attacking ability that made him so dangerous, but have noticed an effort to lift his work rate, maybe that was something he had to work on ?

                                The coaches will know more than us , who is in the better mental state etc

                                Iโ€™m tipping bridge to continue getting selected over him at this point in time, just havenโ€™t seen enough to make them change it.

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                                @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                I think we can all agree reikos best puts him ahead of bridges best , based on past games,

                                Just seems to have lost that attacking ability that made him so dangerous, but have noticed an effort to lift his work rate, maybe that was something he had to work on ?

                                The coaches will know more than us , who is in the better mental state etc

                                Iโ€™m tipping bridge to continue getting selected over him at this point in time, just havenโ€™t seen enough to make them change it.

                                That "based on past games" is the problem when comparing these players. Rieko has way more past games than Bridge and Reece. Basically, we don't know yet what Bridge's and Reece's best is. It may well be that with more experience, they'll prove to be better than Rieko. We simply don't know yet. We may have seen Rieko's best already, but I'm sure we haven't seen the best of Bridge and Reece, yet.

                                Another problem is that all three of them are very different type of players. It depends what kind of player the coaches are looking for; what skills and other qualities they think they need most for a particular test.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                  Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                  Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                  @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                  Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                  Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

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                                    All rugby at risk of being canned this weekend because of the weather...This does feel like the end of the world, damnit Gretta was right!

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                      @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                      Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                      Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                      If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

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                                      @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                      @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                      @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                      Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                      Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                      If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

                                      No, we will get Ireland since they will be on 16 points, the same as Japan. H2H trumps points difference so Japan will finish on top.

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                                        @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                        @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                        @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                        Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                        Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

                                        No, we will get Ireland since they will be on 16 points, the same as Japan. H2H trumps points difference so Japan will finish on top.

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                                        @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                        @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                        @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                        @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                        Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                        Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

                                        No, we will get Ireland since they will be on 16 points, the same as Japan. H2H trumps points difference so Japan will finish on top.

                                        Ohhh OK thanks. Ireland it is then.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Pool B):

                                          @No-Quarter I mean going out in the QF.

                                          Two romps against Canada and Namibia, a cancelled game, and a game against the Jaapies we usually would have played in the 4N.

                                          Allied with me watching very few of the pool games, so I'm struggling for engagement. I'm more excited about the NPC! ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          If Japan vs Scotland is called off, and then Ireland take 5 points against Samoa we will get Japan in the quarter final. Could work in our favour. Not that Ireland are up to much this RWC...

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                                          The only games WR should be worried about this weekend if they need to reschedule is Japan vs Scotland and Ireland vs Samoa as they will determine the QF teams from Group A.

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