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RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B)

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    if Boks had beaten ABs and Italy were sitting ahead of ABs in the pool standings - would Italy be wanting to play the game on Monday?

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    • D Disgusted of TW

      @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

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      @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

      @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

      Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

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        @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

        @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

        Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

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        @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

        @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

        @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

        Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

        Yeah, especially as a 'written into the rule book' nil all draw is hard to argue, but a last minute change of venue etc that resulted in an upset would cause massive backlash. Imagine the complaints about integrity of comp because of that

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          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

          @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

          sweating

          I see what you did there.

          Yeah some of the minnows probably would have liked all draws and a "boundary" rule to decide who went through.

          I'm not sure that teams (or fans) actually realised that this had a reasonable probability of happening, but the organisers certainly should have.

          Sweating? Nah, that was unintentional. Or at least you can't prove intent, and there was no serious injury, so I reckon I won't be cited.

          Does anyone know whether the pool tickets have a refund guarantee in the event of cancellation? Thinking of trolling a friend of mine who's out there but I need to know exactly which exposed nerves to twist. (Normally I wouldn't, but he sent me pornographically detailed photos of his tickets when they arrived in the post. I'm only human)

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          @Disgusted-of-TW think the press release said there woukd be refunds

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            if Boks had beaten ABs and Italy were sitting ahead of ABs in the pool standings - would Italy be wanting to play the game on Monday?

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            @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

            if Boks had beaten ABs and Italy were sitting ahead of ABs in the pool standings - would Italy be wanting to play the game on Monday?

            Worth repeating for effect.

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              @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

              if Boks had beaten ABs and Italy were sitting ahead of ABs in the pool standings - would Italy be wanting to play the game on Monday?

              Worth repeating for effect.

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              @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

              @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

              if Boks had beaten ABs and Italy were sitting ahead of ABs in the pool standings - would Italy be wanting to play the game on Monday?

              Worth repeating for effect.

              Somewhere, in a parallel universe, this is happening...

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

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                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

                That's true. I guess you'd just have to make participation in the match optional and if a team can't cobble together 22 delicate rose petals from their ranks then they'd just have to forfeit.

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                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                  Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

                  Yeah, especially as a 'written into the rule book' nil all draw is hard to argue, but a last minute change of venue etc that resulted in an upset would cause massive backlash. Imagine the complaints about integrity of comp because of that

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                  @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                  @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                  Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

                  Yeah, especially as a 'written into the rule book' nil all draw is hard to argue, but a last minute change of venue etc that resulted in an upset would cause massive backlash. Imagine the complaints about integrity of comp because of that

                  Would there be any? Is that worse than a team going out due to not even having the chance to play for a spot? Other teams get to play all of their matches in the same pool?
                  It is the same for both teams that have to move, at least they get to play for a shot at it. IMO of course.

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                  • R Rembrandt

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                    Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

                    That's true. I guess you'd just have to make participation in the match optional and if a team can't cobble together 22 delicate rose petals from their ranks then they'd just have to forfeit.

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                    @Rembrandt said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Disgusted-of-TW said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                    @Rembrandt Would that condition limit the number of countries able to put a compliant bid together?

                    Massively. Professional athletes playing Test rugby have certain expectations and a spare paddock and a budget motel doesn't quite cut it.

                    That's true. I guess you'd just have to make participation in the match optional and if a team can't cobble together 22 delicate rose petals from their ranks then they'd just have to forfeit.

                    I think you're entering the realm of absurdity now.

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                      #207

                      https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Aichi/Toyota/

                      According to the Norwegians, it's going to be a pretty shit day in Toyota, but is it going to be dangerous or unplayable?

                      85mm is a decent dousing, but we have something like that several days every year at my place.

                      Strong breeze!

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Aichi/Toyota/

                        According to the Norwegians, it's going to be a pretty shit day in Toyota, but is it going to be dangerous or unplayable?

                        85mm is a decent dousing, but we have something like that several days every year at my place.

                        Strong breeze!

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                        @Chris-B Now that it is a bit closer to the time the forecasting will get better too.

                        I said that they should leave it until the day, typhoons can die or move, and it isn't exact science.

                        So if they have it correct:
                        You don't stop rugby games because of rain unless the pitch becomes a pool and dangerous.
                        12m/s is 24 knots FFS. That is a zephyr for Wellington.

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                          https://twitter.com/AndrewGourdie/status/1182391452724162560

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                            ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                            https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

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                              ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                              https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

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                              @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                              ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                              https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

                              Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

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                                @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                                https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

                                Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

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                                @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

                                If the stadium, infrastructure, can't withstand 60kts nobody should be going.
                                Japan have earthquakes and typhoons, they generally build accordingly.

                                @Chris-B How good are these Norwegians with their forecasting?

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                                  @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                  ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                                  https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

                                  Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

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                                  @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                  @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                  ...and if everything goes as scheduled the Scotland Japan game should be fine.

                                  https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Kanagawa/Yokohama/

                                  Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

                                  Have faith in Japanese engineering! 🙂

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                                  • SnowyS Snowy

                                    @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                    Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

                                    If the stadium, infrastructure, can't withstand 60kts nobody should be going.
                                    Japan have earthquakes and typhoons, they generally build accordingly.

                                    @Chris-B How good are these Norwegians with their forecasting?

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                                    @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                    @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                    Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

                                    If the stadium, infrastructure, can't withstand 60kts nobody should be going.
                                    Japan have earthquakes and typhoons, they generally build accordingly.

                                    @Chris-B How good are these Norwegians with their forecasting?

                                    They're usually pretty good to spot on in my experience - they've got some sort of global/macro weather model and lots of places I've been around the world, news sites just draw their weather forecasts from this base.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                      @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                      Not if there is significant damage to the stadium, infrastructure etc.

                                      If the stadium, infrastructure, can't withstand 60kts nobody should be going.
                                      Japan have earthquakes and typhoons, they generally build accordingly.

                                      @Chris-B How good are these Norwegians with their forecasting?

                                      They're usually pretty good to spot on in my experience - they've got some sort of global/macro weather model and lots of places I've been around the world, news sites just draw their weather forecasts from this base.

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                                      @Chris-B Most of the aviation forecasting for the whole planet comes from only a few places, that might be one of them. Believe it or not, Wellington is another.

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                                        https://twitter.com/AndrewGourdie/status/1182391452724162560

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                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Italy (Cancelled) (Pool B):

                                        https://twitter.com/AndrewGourdie/status/1182391452724162560

                                        You would have to laugh if that happen.

                                        I would just doff my cap and say "Well played, sporting Gods, well played"

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                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @Chris-B Most of the aviation forecasting for the whole planet comes from only a few places, that might be one of them. Believe it or not, Wellington is another.

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                                          @Snowy I really like this Norwegian one, because you can enter most named features on a topo map and get a forecast specific to that point.

                                          If you're doing a tramp, you can often get forecasts for three or four points along the route to see how the weather is likely to evolve as you go.

                                          Combine it with the Metservice's rain radar and you get a pretty good picture of what's likely to happen.

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