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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

    France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

    McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

    yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
    who else should have been captain in that team though?

    Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

    The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

    Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

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    @Nepia may as well try to keep Zinny out there then bro...drop goal king!

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

      France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

      McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

      yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
      who else should have been captain in that team though?

      Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

      The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @jegga

        Always thought Ireland would be a great place to host a RWC.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        @jegga

        Always thought Ireland would be a great place to host a RWC.

        do the British HAVE to get every 2nd World Cup?

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

          France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

          McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

          yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
          who else should have been captain in that team though?

          Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

          The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

          Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

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          @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

          France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

          McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

          yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
          who else should have been captain in that team though?

          Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

          The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

          Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

          Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

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          • JCJ JC

            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @jegga

            Always thought Ireland would be a great place to host a RWC.

            Yeah, the capital has some fabulous stadiums. Wembley, Emirates and West Ham’s home are all terrific 😉

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            @JC said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @jegga

            Always thought Ireland would be a great place to host a RWC.

            Yeah, the capital has some fabulous stadiums. Wembley, Emirates and West Ham’s home are all terrific 😉

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              #544

              From: https://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-all-blacks-world-cup-4855722-Oct2019/

              Some interesting gifs and stuff in the above.

              Interesting snippets:

              Andy Farrell’s defence has been excellent in this World Cup. Ireland have only conceded two tries to date, have the best tackle success of any team at 90% and have averaged the fewest linebreaks conceded per game (3).

              In the 16-9 win in Dublin last year, Ireland kept New Zealand to single figures and tryless for the first time in a Test match for 20 years and their defence was clearly a key component to the win.

              Intriguingly, Farrell’s defence also kept the All Blacks tryless in the second Lions Test in 2017. In short, Farrell has been the opposition defence coach for the only two games in five years in which New Zealand have failed to score a try.

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              • RapidoR Rapido

                From: https://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-all-blacks-world-cup-4855722-Oct2019/

                Some interesting gifs and stuff in the above.

                Interesting snippets:

                Andy Farrell’s defence has been excellent in this World Cup. Ireland have only conceded two tries to date, have the best tackle success of any team at 90% and have averaged the fewest linebreaks conceded per game (3).

                In the 16-9 win in Dublin last year, Ireland kept New Zealand to single figures and tryless for the first time in a Test match for 20 years and their defence was clearly a key component to the win.

                Intriguingly, Farrell’s defence also kept the All Blacks tryless in the second Lions Test in 2017. In short, Farrell has been the opposition defence coach for the only two games in five years in which New Zealand have failed to score a try.

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                @Rapido based around a very good and disciplined rush defence, obviously we have been working on exploiting this...

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                  France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

                  McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

                  yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
                  who else should have been captain in that team though?

                  Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

                  The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

                  Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

                  Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

                  You don't worry about drop goals, until you do...

                  Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

                    You don't worry about drop goals, until you do...

                    Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.

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                    @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.

                    Yep. 2 in the whole match, both in the first half.

                    And it was France, France! FFS. Hardly the cleanest, most well disciplined team on the planet. Mutter, mutter. Who plays a rugby match and only gives away only two penalties? You just aren't playing properly, or you have a ref in your pocket...

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                    • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                      France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

                      McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

                      yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
                      who else should have been captain in that team though?

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                      @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      who else should have been captain in that team though

                      Rodders?

                      He was awesome in that game IIRC.

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                        Weather forecast is looking better for gametime - only 20% chance of precipitation.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          who else should have been captain in that team though

                          Rodders?

                          He was awesome in that game IIRC.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew a lot of players were. It's why i give the brains trust a bit of leeway. I've captained games where pretty much everything is going right, and it looks for all money like you are about to break it open. And suddenly it's full time and you've lost by a couple.

                          The stats, the way the game played out, everything points to an NZ win. Except the bit that matters the most.

                          Unreal isn't it. Knock out rugby is a fluffybunny.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

                            You don't worry about drop goals, until you do...

                            Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.

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                            @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

                            You don't worry about drop goals, until you do...

                            Just one penalty in the 2nd half would have been enough.

                            Indeed. But I do recall plenty of discussion pre 07 RWC about us having proponents of the drop goal, especially after the euphoria of JW and 2003.

                            Then the drum beating got louder heading into 2011...

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                              France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

                              McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

                              yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
                              who else should have been captain in that team though?

                              Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

                              The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

                              Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

                              Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                              France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

                              McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

                              yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
                              who else should have been captain in that team though?

                              Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

                              The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

                              Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

                              Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

                              Would his captain have let him kick a drop goal?
                              Would 3 points have won us the game if we didn't have our best attacking player on the field?
                              Would he have missed frequently like Mehrts did in 1995?

                              The player on the field didn't matter, it was the decision not to set for one that was the issue.

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                                @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                I reckon Jordie's selection betrays some concern about Reece's ability under the high ball. With JB on the bench, they can defuse the aerial threat, but still maintain some of the dangerous attacking ability (which they will lose a lot of with BFA's current form). If JB needs to come and rescue Reece, I can see BFA playing a semi and final (should we make it that far)

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                                @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                I reckon Jordie's selection betrays some concern about Reece's ability under the high ball. With JB on the bench, they can defuse the aerial threat, but still maintain some of the dangerous attacking ability (which they will lose a lot of with BFA's current form). If JB needs to come and rescue Reece, I can see BFA playing a semi and final (should we make it that far)

                                There has always been, and still remains, more chance of the ABs winning a Test Match with BFA in the starting XV (23) than being on the pine.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

                                  Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

                                  As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

                                  Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

                                  As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

                                  Start saving now.

                                  The craic's not free.

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116678771/all-blacks-v-ireland-joe-schmidt-misses-prize-chance-to-drill-for-good-oil-on-richie-mounga

                                    Classy move by Oirish Joe

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                                      "loyalty to a particular team"

                                      Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

                                        Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

                                        As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

                                        Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

                                        As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

                                        It would be a disaster - we gave them the headquarters for World Rugby and look what's happened to the game!

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116678771/all-blacks-v-ireland-joe-schmidt-misses-prize-chance-to-drill-for-good-oil-on-richie-mounga

                                          Classy move by Oirish Joe

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                                          @canefan Although, if O'Gara has any professional integrity he'd likely have said do your own research Joe!

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