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@Machpants said in Planes: @Snowy dude it's got a toilet and gallery behind the crew! A fricking gallery! Who puts an art display in a plane? Crazy Ivan. But right you are then. Thought it was some sort of fighter derivative. I'm not allowed in anything with a bang seat as I would get two amputations above the knees. Always thought the SU27 was cool doing the cobra:  Then there was this: 
  
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@Machpants said in Planes: @Snowy was there for the Fairford coming together Nasty, and bloody lucky. MIG 29's? Yeah, glad I wqasn't lounging o the wing of the orion, was dicey there! @Machpants said in Planes: @Snowy was there for the Fairford coming together Did you ever come across that guy who was shot down in his harrier by the Serbs ? F16 dude? No, but we were briefed on the incident and his E&E efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O'Grady Probably all classified still but this bit probably give hints "As the second Sea Stallion landed, a figure with a pistol who turned out to be the missing pilot appeared running towards the Marines" 
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@Machpants said in Planes: @Machpants said in Planes: @Snowy was there for the Fairford coming together Nasty, and bloody lucky. MIG 29's? Yeah, glad I wqasn't lounging o the wing of the orion, was dicey there! @Machpants said in Planes: @Snowy was there for the Fairford coming together Did you ever come across that guy who was shot down in his harrier by the Serbs ? F16 dude? No, but we were briefed on the incident and his E&E efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O'Grady Probably all classified still but this bit probably give hints "As the second Sea Stallion landed, a figure with a pistol who turned out to be the missing pilot appeared running towards the Marines" Nope the harrier pilot 
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This was the Gee Bee, stumpy, ugly as a bushel of broken arseholes , not much forward vision and due to its design a danger to itself . It was capable of 300 mph which was quick for the early 1930s but quickly surpassed by the likes of the spitfires predecessor the Supermarine S.6b 
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My favourite passenger plane to travel in is this ugly duckling Such a roomy comfy plane. Apparently the pilots that flew her loved it. I still remember standing with the pilot on the flight deck during a holiday flight as a kid. One thing my kids won't get to experience because of the plane being withdrawn from general service and Johnny terrorist 
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Not planes but tanks. A lot of tanks are getting taken out in Syria and Yemen , they are the current models with all the upgrades but they are the same types . Also the way they are being used isn’t ideal against suicidal enemies . My stepbrother used to drive a Scorpion I suspect they’d last a nanosecond on the battlefield these days . 
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"..less about technical deficiencies and more about crew training, competent morale, and sound tactical employment." That's the key point. Anywhere built up you have to have integrated infantry to support. A Challenger 2 was disabled during Telic with a molotov onto the engine grill behind the turret bustle, and a few other hits. You're never invincible - combined arms works. Just like in the air, all of our losses, aside from accidents, were to simple small arms and/or unguided rockets - you can't 'flare off' those! The Scorpion (scimitar versions) is still going with the Brits - very much up armoured and improved fire control - but you don;t want to use those 'incorrectly' either! They're being replaced by a wheeled vehicle, I think. 





 Harrier pilot safe
            
            Harrier pilot safe
        
