RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

pakman

@pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@pakman said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Will be interesting to see if Eddie thinks at all of team changes. I could see Kruis starting, which opens up some options for them at 6. Seems Ford is not trusted at highest level, which for me is too timid, as I think they need to take some risks.

See Stuff reporting Kruis and Ford may start: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116859878/all-blacks-v-england-eddie-jones-expected-to-bring-back-george-ford-for-semifinal !

Seems Eddie reads the Fern?

Nepia

@Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Machpants said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@bayimports said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Ok so don’t have full team this week... however, from inside the camp....

S Barrett replaces Cane at 6, Tuipolotu on the bench for Todd. Savea at 7. Cane on bench.

Perhaps wrist not great, or just want a bigger/taller team

Can't say that makes any sense to me, our game has been all about the trio all year and now we go for a slower option to add height? I hope Cane is slightly injured and it's enforced because he leads our defence in the opening trench warfare.

Yeah this, we win sith speed and a ferocious and fast loose trio. Ah well in Shag we trust, if true!

Definitely for now, but if we lose I'm going to meltdown like a Cantabrian complaining about Mauger being left out in 07. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

It will have only taken you 12 years to see some sense then. Even a little slow for you @Nepia

To be fair, he hasn't yet gone through all the grieving stages for Cully in 2003 - let alone started on processing the injustices of Aaron!

Oh look, the little brother Crusaders are circling the wagons in support of big brother Crusaders.

Toddy

Who is the better 1st 5 Ford or Farrell? Is this purely to give them a second play maker?

Rapido

Sky were showing the 2018 EOYT tour test v England last night. I caught about the 20 minutes.

I now recall that NZ totally bossed the England lineout last year, Retallick consistently pinching Itoje's ball at the front of the lineout.

NZ started with 4 linrout options; Retallick, Whitelock, Read, Squire. S Barrett replace Squire in the second half.

In the time I was watching NZ had replacement props on with Laulala and THP and Ofa T at LHP. 3 scrums in that time; 1 penalty v NZ when we attacked their scrum but got penalised for angling in. 1 where both scrums attacked each other a bit back-and-forward - hard to tell England slightly on top maybe but seemed to collapse back their way just as ball was taken out (was play on), final action of match was a collapsed scrum that turned into a comedy act of offside hangers-on trying to pressure TJP.

England had Williams and THP, George at hooker and can't remember LHP.

England got a fat start, up 15-0. That's been a habit, thinking of England's tour of South Africa.

Playing catchup would make me nervous with the way knockout rugby is refereed. Hope we start well.

pakman

@Toddy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Who is the better 1st 5 Ford or Farrell? Is this purely to give them a second play maker?

Ford is better with reasonable or good ball. Farrell better behind a struggling pack, but tends to be somewhat robotic.

NTA

@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances,

Mostly middle aged men spouting shit.

So yeah: like journalists.

taniwharugby

@NTA diverse AF...I mean you are an Aussie afterall!

NTA

@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@NTA diverse AF...I mean you are an Aussie afterall!

Well, someone out of us has to use vowels properly.

voodoo

@NTA said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

such a diverse range of rugby fans of all ages, bias' and allegiances,

Mostly middle aged men spouting shit.

So yeah: like journalists.

I thought we were mostly young hot polish chicks these days?

taniwharugby

@NTA you'll get there one day bro, just keep hanging out here, and you will learn!

Snowy

I like that counter thing at the bottom of the page. That has us winning by 215 to 6.

Frank

@Hooroo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

@KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279196

These huas read the fern!

three times in the past week, about a couple of hours after a conversation on these threads, suddenly an article would appear.

And sometimes behind a paywall. They are making money off it.

Crucial

The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

Joe Moody (44)
Codie Taylor (49)
Nepo Laulala (24)
Brodie Retallick (79)
Samuel Whitelock (116)
Scott Barrett (34)
Ardie Savea (43)
Kieran Read - captain (125)
Aaron Smith (90)
Richie Mo’unga (15)
George Bridge (8)
Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
Jack Goodhue (12)
Sevu Reece (6)
Beauden Barrett (81)
Dane Coles (67)
Ofa Tuungafasi (34)
Angus Ta'avao (12)
Patrick Tuipulotu (28)
Sam Cane (66)
T J Perenara (63)
Sonny Bill Williams (56)
Jordie Barrett (15)

Hooroo

Love love love!!!

AB's by 12

Crucial

Key Facts

The All Blacks and England have played each other 41 times, with the All Blacks winning 33 times, England seven times and the one draw. The last result was a 16-15 win to the All Blacks at Twickenham in November last year. They’ve played each other three times at the Rugby World Cup, including the classic semi-final at the 1995 tournament in South Africa. They also played Pool matches in 1991 and 1999.

As well as Codie Taylor playing his 50th Test, Brodie Retallick will be playing his 80th, Ofa Tuungafasi and Scott Barrett their 35th and Nepo Laulala his 25th.

While loose forward Sam Cane will be playing his first Test against England (in his 67th Test), Captain Kieran Read and Samuel Whitelock will be playing their ninth Test against the Northern Hemisphere foe, while Dane Coles, Brodie Retallick and Aaron Smith have played them seven times.

Kieran Read will be captaining the All Blacks for the 51st time, equalling 1992-1997 All Blacks hooker Sean Fitzpatrick.

Beauden Barrett scored his 35th try for the All Blacks last weekend, the same number as All Blacks legend Sir John Kirwan scored.

Brodie Retallick and Samuel Whitelock have had 46 wins as a starting second row pair, one behind the world record held by South African duo Victor Matfield and Bakkies Botha

booboo

@Crucial said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

The matchday 23 is as follows (Test caps in brackets):

Joe Moody (44)

Codie Taylor (49)

Taylor has more caps than Moody?

taniwharugby

barring Injury, have to assume IF we make the final, the wings out there today will start.

So how many minutes did Ioane get? That Italy game really threw a spanner in a probably took away valuable minutes for a number of players.

Has everyone played so far?

Siam

Slightly melancholy that BFA presumably finished.

10 seconds of reminiscing and then c'mon Black!!!

Another epic Saturday coming up!

voodoo

You have to hand it to the selectors. The SB selection aside, it really looks like they have built up to this combo with perfect timing.

I LOVE that we have made just 1 change to the starting 15, if we have learned anything over the years it is that combinations really matter at this stage. Knowing instinctively where your runners are going to be, trusting your insides in defense, reading each other on both attack and defense.

I'm so fucking amped for this game!!!

NTA

@Siam said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Slightly melancholy that BFA presumably finished.

10 seconds of reminiscing and then c'mon Black!!!

Engage the Beaver Drive.

The Silver Fern

RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)