Cricket: NZ vs England
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.
Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.
we are all so scarred by the past
Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.
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Pretty bored of reading about Archer racist abuse - was lead sport story on a few online rags today.
Wonder how big this story would have if England had won as they expected to
@MajorRage agree. It is really shit, and I'm glad they are taking it seriously and following up etc. But man they have milked it hard.
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@MajorRage agree. It is really shit, and I'm glad they are taking it seriously and following up etc. But man they have milked it hard.
@Paekakboyz said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@MajorRage agree. It is really shit, and I'm glad they are taking it seriously and following up etc. But man they have milked it hard.
I'm glad that they are investigating, but has anyone produced proof that this actually happened?
I don't want to criticise Archer but this massive reaction is from a tweet of his that has not had (that we are aware of) any confirmation from team mates or others in the crowd (and knowing NZ, someone would have come forward and said 'yeah, I heard that dickhead and he was told to button it'). Perhaps he mis-heard or misconstrued a comment?
There will always be dickheads around but the good thing about NZ is that there are also plenty of people who will speak up and put those dickheads in their place.
NZ Cricket had to take the obvious actions to clamp down but it somehow doesn't feel right to me.
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@Paekakboyz said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@MajorRage agree. It is really shit, and I'm glad they are taking it seriously and following up etc. But man they have milked it hard.
I'm glad that they are investigating, but has anyone produced proof that this actually happened?
I don't want to criticise Archer but this massive reaction is from a tweet of his that has not had (that we are aware of) any confirmation from team mates or others in the crowd (and knowing NZ, someone would have come forward and said 'yeah, I heard that dickhead and he was told to button it'). Perhaps he mis-heard or misconstrued a comment?
There will always be dickheads around but the good thing about NZ is that there are also plenty of people who will speak up and put those dickheads in their place.
NZ Cricket had to take the obvious actions to clamp down but it somehow doesn't feel right to me.
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@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I'm getting a Bastareaud vibe
Hmmm. I really don't get why anyone would make that up, but I don't have a victim mentality. Just bizarre really, and as has already been said - one dickhead.
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I'm getting a Bastareaud vibe
Hmmm. I really don't get why anyone would make that up, but I don't have a victim mentality. Just bizarre really, and as has already been said - one dickhead.
Difference between making something up entirely and jumping to conclusions and firing out a tweet.
The bit that gets me is why he didn't mention it to his management to follow through on but publicly commented.
We don't even know what was supposedly said. Are we talking colour based racist talk or someone commenting on him being a West Indian import?
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The person was located near the scoreboard according to the TV news. If the abuse happened while Archer was batting some NZ players have said they didn't hear anything themselves.
@Bovidae I think it was when he was heading off the pitch after getting out. So I can understand if it wasn't widely audible to other players.
My gripe was the going straight to twitter rather than their usual process (which I'm sure they have in place) of talking to management and going from there.
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"In a previous tweet, subsequently deleted, Archer further outlined the nature of the abuse, posting: “Can the guy that was yelling bbc and bc from the scoreboard area today come forward and tell me what those words mean please? Because I don’t...”
I'm puzzled. Was someone shouting letters? If so how are they racist? (Kidding)
If they were the words he should have understood them and has a right to be offended if I think those letters are the start of what was said.He should also have understood them as being announced by a dickhead and get a thicker skin.
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"In a previous tweet, subsequently deleted, Archer further outlined the nature of the abuse, posting: “Can the guy that was yelling bbc and bc from the scoreboard area today come forward and tell me what those words mean please? Because I don’t...”
I'm puzzled. Was someone shouting letters? If so how are they racist? (Kidding)
If they were the words he should have understood them and has a right to be offended if I think those letters are the start of what was said.He should also have understood them as being announced by a dickhead and get a thicker skin.
@Snowy said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
"In a previous tweet, subsequently deleted, Archer further outlined the nature of the abuse, posting: “Can the guy that was yelling bbc and bc from the scoreboard area today come forward and tell me what those words mean please? Because I don’t...”
I'm puzzled. Was someone shouting letters? If so how are they racist? (Kidding)
If they were the words he should have understood them and has a right to be offended if I think those letters are the start of what was said.He should also have understood them as being announced by a dickhead and get a thicker skin.
I hadn't seen that.
If someone was shouting 'You BC (or BBC)' then fair enough. It's pretty obvious what he meant (if directed at Archer)
BC also = Black Caps
'Black Caps' misheard?
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One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
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One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
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@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
They are talking a potential life ban aren't they? I don't mind that our captain has apologised
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@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
One person out of thousands shouts 4 words and letters. Big deal.
Explain to anyone who doesn't understand why he's a dickhead and move on. That's the reason for the witch hunt isn't it? To deter others from judging on the basis of skin colour.
It's getting nearly more investigation than a labour party sex criminal.
Some perspective would be nice
How much limelight should this be given? I didn't realise there had to be an upper and lower limit of focus?
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
I'd like them to find the guy and slap a ban on him (2 -3 years) to send a message. I think Kane apologising on behalf of all New Zealanders is over-egging it a bit.
Jeez, that's jumping in ahead of Jacinda. She will be annoyed about missing out on the press coverage of her being first in the queue to apologise.
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As @Hooroo suggests it should be fully investigated, and and punished, or dismissed if untrue or a misunderstanding.
I'm just not convinced that a NZ crowd would stand around and allow that, thus I am cynical.
Can think of parallels but won't drag this further into a Politics forum rabbithole.
